natank kick explained by kingg

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burritx

This is a rough translation as I don't speak spanish fluently

transcribed from Nozwer's live when he was duo'ing with kiNgg

kiNgg: "[...] We were getting into conflicts almost every scrim, he clashed a lot with Dimi (Itopata) and Corbin (C0M), I think we could have resolved these issues but management(?) was not in the same page."

Edit: vod deleted, link is dead now

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number1_Demon1_fan

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Bro... yeah ok... terrible day for rain, this guy was solid enough for T1, and just get robbed his year. Twice.

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kiNgg: "[...] We were getting into conflicts almost every scrim, he punched Dimi (Itopata) and Corbin (C0M) a lot, I think we could have resolved these issues but management(?) was not in the same page."

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FNS: "[...] We were getting into conflicts almost every scrim, he punched me (Pujan Mehta) and Sam (s0m) a lot, I think we could have resolved these issues but management(?) was not in the same page."

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Verno reference 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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tempacc123

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kicking their top 3 player instead of demon1,

LEV is finished

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burritx

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b-b-but champs mvp!1!1!1

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tempacc123

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nobody cares about semen1, one "good" game doesnt mean hes back

he still sucks at the game and will go negative next match

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burritx

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cook 🔥

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Yistyy

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Typical vlr, let's kick the player for 2 unlucky series before the season even started and not the guy being an asshole to his teammates and causing internal conflicts.

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Dumbass

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Yistyy

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I get that you're a natank fan, but just face the facts. team chemistry is the single most important aspect for success. It's the reason for any team winning a champions.

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d1 didnt play well at all last year

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Yistyy

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that has nothing to do with this situation, that was an entirely different team.

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The season has already started though?

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Yistyy

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no, the season hasn't started yet. that was kickoff. split 1 begins after bangkok.

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burritx

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kickoff doesn't count as season start even though it gives championship points? 💀

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Yistyy

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yeah this is just a kickoff event. it would like calling lock-in 2023 as the season. no, the season really begins in split 1 when every team plays each other and competes to make the playoffs.

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Okay, I get where you are coming from but, not sure if it is in fact the case.

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burritx

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So following your argument, Masters Bangkok and Masters Madrid are as equally unimportant?

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Yistyy

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it's not that it's unimportant, it just doesn't mark the start of the season in a traditional sense. some teams only got to play 2-3 matches. this is kind of an exhibition thing. by definition this does not qualify as a part of the regular season.

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So, Kickoff is not part of the season? only split 1 and 2 are?

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Yistyy

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So, Kickoff is not part of the season?

It's not

only split 1 and 2 are?

the season begins when split 1 begins and ends at champions.

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can you read?

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demon1 wasnt getting into conflicts almost every scrim, clashing a lot with Dimi (Itopata) and Corbin (C0M), things didn't need to be resolved so management(?) was not involved

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nataNk is top 2 on LEV honestly, and their best individual player, even while IGLing the team is kiNgg, just shows how terrible the management/coaching situation is for them.

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Fair enough then, I figured it wasn't a skill related change since he had played well

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id be mad too if com was drooling over himself on my team every game, unlucky really

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This gives me liquid sayf vibes...

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burritx

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At least sayf is straight with his former teammates

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how? Sayf is a way greater human being than these freaks (verno & natank)

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Thing is both c0m and itopata are frauds

They should’ve dropped both of them and kept natank

Honestly it’s hard to tell with coaches because I can’t watch timeouts so I don’t want to say this strongly but I feel that elmapuddy is a better coach than itopata

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Wingull

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nah ito is a really good coach look at how lev turned around after the kicked goked and promoted itopata to head coach

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kfan4238173

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That’s true but I don’t like his comps or the roster now, tbf to him maybe he didn’t want the roster like this either

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sebeki

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ito picked up already accomplished players and stuck them on a roster, then made them play weird comps and strats being the only reason they didn't win an international.

that doesn't prove he's a good coach, if he'd picked up some random t2 players and they ended up with the same placements, then sure, you could say he's a really good coach, but in reality he's a fraud.

he uses huge org budget to pick up really good players then says "look our already really good players are doing really good therefore i must be a really good coach"

ito, c0m, and demon1 need to get removed off the roster ASAP. demon1 and c0m have both played ass last year and in kickoff.

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arguing is normal, lev management are just brainlets that decide to be the executioner where they have no place doing so

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Danny

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Personality conflict so they bring in Rossy?

Good player but this seems bizarre

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kfan4238173

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LMAO yeah I just thought of it

I guess Rossy is one of the only good players they can pick up on short notice but he’s had his raging/toxic allegations too

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column1

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I’ve heard different things about rossy being dropped was he toxic or just that he treated esports like a 9-5 and was sort of aloof from his teammates?

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Idek what it was with c9 exactly but when he was on faze babybay said he’d never play with him again because of how he raged

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burritx

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bro just wanted to win

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Babybay said it was like desk slamming

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My goat has fits of anger

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lmao so the response to not intially gelling well and having conflicts is to bench? Are these orgs sick in the head? Most top tier teams in any sport have had members that have fought each other but made up and brought out their best selves

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Ya this shit is crazy. These orgs are getting so soft with dropping players at the first sign of chem issues. Just fucking work it out like an adult. Shouldn't be this difficult imo.

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the real issue is the shit format of the vct season so if the orgs even see the tiniest bit of conflict they drop a player

its also why teams never get a chance to play together for more than a year/season if they shit the bed

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my handsome goat deserves better c0m hating will resume at regular scheduling im afraid

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But he looked so chill...

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why does C0M have so much power on the team when he was literally consistently putting up FNS numbers last year. Bro is probably tryharding a "vibe merchant" and "hard worker" persona to hide his glue eater gameplay and LEV management are too stubborn to admit that they made huge mistake signing C0M, fumbling an international trophy.

I still remember the last round of LEV vs MIBR in Kickoff this year. Overtime, last map, Natank starts dogging A ramp to find where Aspas is and C0M just peeks alone as a VIPER and gives Aspas the first blood. Demon1 tries to fix the mistakes of his VIPER that died in 2 seconds of round, but dies to Aspas that coordinated with Cortezia's viper wall to peek with the OP. And boom Leviatan eliminated. This was the type of mistakes that C0M made ALL of 2024. A lot of players get kicked for way less but C0M is still on the team and aparently with power to kick other player. Common "Leviathan" L

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LeCat

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True c0m is bad but this lev team was nowhere near an international trophy last year(their champs run was the only event where c0m js performing).

Unless you switch c0m for Leo last year they aint winning shit. You can't win when your star players hates the rest of the team

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they were two rounds away from making it to the grand finals in champs

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good

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No way he really PUNCHED ? ryt ?

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ANY THEY THINK ROSSY IS THE SOLUTION????

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KingHeadasz

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It could be like the Stewie2k drama stuff during his stint with EG, he tried to bring stuff he learned from TL and the coach (forgot his name) tried to bring stuff from a different team that didnt mesh well at all and caused conflict because both players are arguing what's "right" and what's not.

shit situation altogether but will wait and see what happens during Stage 1.