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kickoff clown event

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#1
laeDLaer

mibr kru liquid top 4 lmao

shorter off season and more events is what we need. first tournament always so shit except lockin because we saw FNATIC prove their high level for the rest of the year

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Toph_
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Lmao

#3
afreespirit
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champs 2024 madrid 2024 shanghai 2024 clown event

shorter off season and more events is what we need. all tournament always so shit except lockin because i love FNATIC

#4
babysasuke
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LOCK//IN is more mickey mouse than kick off or Madrid btw

#5
LocoMonteiro
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thats why the winner was best team of 2023 and the runner up was Americas winner right?

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gamergirl
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wasnt the best team of 2023

if we go by the OP criteria, lock in was the first event of the year, no qualifier and ended in march, now the season starts a month early and the final will still be early march

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LocoMonteiro
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lost me at "wasnt the best team of 2023"

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gamergirl
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was pretty clear that loud only lost lock in because they were playing with two rookies while fnatic had been scrimming for 4 months, the "best team" of 2023 was completely outclassed by loud without that advantage, lost a regional to liquid, evil geniuses won champions, their tokyo run where prx who was also better than them at champs had a sub

all of the above doesnt even matter because EG won champions and were the best team of 2023, what weight does champions have if not to crown the best team of the year?

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fnatic was the best team of 2023, thats not an opinion, thats factual, everyone agreed with it, even the NA players/teams and casters/talent so i dunno why you are even arguing, and FYI Loud were the only team with a chance to beat Fnatic, even Derke said in a podcast that they knew if they beat Loud they werent losing to PRX or EG

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"im going to ignore all your points and say fnatic is the best team because in my made up world if they werent worse than loud they definitely would be better than the teams that beat loud according to their own player"

derke doesnt know if they would beat eg or prx, fnatic didnt look GOOD at champs, they were shaky at best vs drx and the only impressive win was vs fut lol (THEY PLAYED ZETA AND BILLI TO QUALIFY)

just extremely biased, retarded, no supporting argument except previous nostalgia, remove the nostalgia fnatic beat a loud with no experience, prx with a streamer, and lost horribly at champions when it mattered only beating some of the worst teams at the event

#18
LocoMonteiro
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i dont know whats weirder, that you keep insta upvoting your own slop, or that you keep arguing a topic that reached a pretty easy consensus at the time.....are you one of those dudes thats always trying to be different from everyone else? Sure would explain your brainless rants about M8

#19
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do you even have a counter argument to the best team of the year is the one that wins champions?

the best team will ALWAYS be the team that shows up for the most important event, nobody values 2 euros over 1 world cup

make an argument or stfu lol

#21
LocoMonteiro
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My problem with that shitty Champions>Masters argument is that the people who try to use it to prove EG was better will then say Optic was the best team in 2022
I thought the counter argument was pretty evident but i guess your brain just cant hack it so ill try to dumb it down.....theres a reason no other team has ever won 2 internationals in a row, that level of consistency at a top level is way harder to obtain than simply peaking at the right time and winning champs
You understand it now or shall i draw up a dumbed down picture for you?

#12
babysasuke
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The best team of 2023 won Champions and had actually world class players and support staff

shitnatic fluked a mickey mouse for-fun tournment and the most fraudulent masters in Valorant history and then shit the bed when it mattered (because they were never really that good)

#6
Veri
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I dont understand the logic behind this line if thought. All these teams won fair and square against opponents everyone agrees are good, yet they were clearly better than them and improved a lot during the tournament. Does the first game determine the level of the team and everything that comes after is a fluke? Improving is just not a thing?

#9
gamergirl
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its cope from emea lizard who hasnt tasted a trophy in a year

#8
Liwus
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I honestly think you have worse takes than Assmolestia

#14
sideshowsbaldhead
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true but you’re still a fraud

#25
Liwus
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I know

#10
DeadManWilly
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idk why i read these takes

#16
milostoj
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Yea dont let any players rest gr8 idea my friend!!!

#20
laeDLaer
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its their job. no need for 6 months without officials

#23
4so4so4so
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the fact that 100T Asuna won't be attending Bangkok therefore can't claim MVP of the event just invalidates this entire event. Mickey Mouse af.

#27
number2_cNed_fan
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i was gonna have an intelligent conversation, then i read the name

#28
LocoMonteiro
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nah

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