top 3 per role in americas

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michaelisupset

duelist:

aspas
zekken
jawgemo

initiator:

ethan
cauanzin
trent

sentinel:

n4rrate
leaf
yay

smokes:

s0m
bang
pancada

flex:

verno
cryo
kingg

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MrBulbe

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you forgot mada in the duelist role (would replace zekken imo) and what is n4rrate doing at the top of sentinel list?

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baiter back again ⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️

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MrBulbe

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bro there is no way you can consider n4rrate as the best sentinel in americas before he even played an official match

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not about n4rrate

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MrBulbe

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i am not wrong about zekken either

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#8, masters MVP
no one's falling for your terrible baits man 😭😭😭

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then why do you have mada in the top 3 if he’s never played an official match?

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MrBulbe

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he played a lot of official matches as duelist, just not on NRG. Based on his T2 performance and the off season performance I rate him higher than zekken. Feel free to disagree.

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dying 😭 😭😭😭
n4rrate played tier 1 emea and he carried kc to madrid with shin
terrible bait with no coherence

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MrBulbe

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yeah he played as iniator not sentinel

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z12

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respect narrate he is the only reason sentinels will make it to bangkok next year

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MrBulbe

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him playing 1 v 5 wont be enough

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z12

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bang and zekken can frag too btw

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uwukitten

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I just want you to know that the only reason people fall for your shitty baits is that they don't recognize you, otherwise it'd be clear within a few posts that you're a baiter

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catNmouse

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“offseason performance” yeah those aren’t official matches and even then, zekken is established and has insane t1 performances which mada can’t make up for as of now

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z12

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this is a new low for you stop arguing with shitty bait

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catNmouse

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nah i think this guy is being deadass

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MrBulbe

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Tier 2 matches count as official, no? Plus I said that I rate him higher than zekken and you can disagree with my opinion.

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catNmouse

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Yeah you rate him higher because you’re trying to objectify zekken as a bad player lol

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MrBulbe

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I never said that zekken is a bad player? Just imo he is nowhere near his peak that was VCT Madrid. And with how competitive Americas is that is not enough to be top3 in his role.

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he’s still going to be better than most of the duelists securing top 3, did you forget that he as an individual can fry games often? he was a top 5 player in vct 2023 on a dysfunctional team, still had great stats at champs not being too far off from his madrid peak. he’ll be fine next year especially with his jett improving

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bro said tier 2 count as officials LMAOOOOO
can we give sym the best duelist award since he diffed mada

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z12

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gc counts as official too then no? flor is the best memea duelist then

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1243

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truly the best ever, memea won't see it coming

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michaelisupset

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I am biased obviously

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aquaa018

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what the fake sen fan

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H3ENnZ

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Fair list overall but n4 is no where near the best sentiin americas

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michaelisupset

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not yet #aheadofthecurve

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31Raven

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ahead of the curve or around the bend?

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z12

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narrate is top 3 in every role except controller lmfao

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michaelisupset

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I mean he’s also on controller on abyss and also probably lotus lol

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z12

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i genuinely do not remember him ever playing controller 😭

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michaelisupset

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he was on omen on abyss lol

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H3ENnZ

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Isnt he playing cypher (SEN city classic)

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MrBlooBloom

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Didn't check but I think Sen ran a double smokes+double ini comp

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H3ENnZ

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Nah i think sen ran double senti with n4 cypher and zellsis vyse

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MrBlooBloom

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Oh yeah you're right they ran solo yoru w it

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flex

Asuna

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cohnr

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verno is flex but ethan is initiator? huh?

also pancada is overrated

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i will not take any Bryan ‘pANcada’ Luna slander

he did better than less and cauanzin in 2024 and yet gets called overrated

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cauanzin was lowkey insane during 2024, probably best player especially with qck

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catNmouse

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verno stated that he’s their flex player

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pancada on the last 2 years has been playing on some of the worst teams in americas, how's he supposed to look good?

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uwukitten

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the s0m disrespect is crazy, even when he came back with 2 weeks notice he was better than those frauds (also was the best controller of 2023)

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michaelisupset

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I forgot

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smokes:

bang

Unserious opinion

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michaelisupset

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super duper serious

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foythvlr

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i like bang but he never was nowhere near top 3 smokes in americas at any given point in the history of the game and he still isn't now lol

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both 2022 and 2024
in 2022 ppl placed him after marved and pancada, had a down year in 2023 and this year was at the top again along kingg and valyn/tenz (if u still count omen only as a controller).

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2022 americas wasn't a region and he didn't had relevant enough international performances to be considered a top controller (and even regionally he was great only on the LCQ)

2024 is debatable but i don't think he come close, too inconsistent. split 1 was great but was very behind on both kickoff and split 2 in both individual and team results, and also internationally. definitely not even close to valyn, tenz and kingg (although kingg only started on controller on split 2 i think. there's a valid debate on omen but i think it counts)

don't get me wrong he can be on discussion for top 3 going to 2025 specially since we have a lot of new prospects and undefined roles but top 1? let's slow down there (glad OP changed it)

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i mean i wasnt saying top1 either but he's definitely someone to consider for top3 imo. Bang was a top10 rated player in americas overall this year. He did great in split 1 obviously but also was best rated controller in split 2 playoffs. Like regionally he's for sure up there performance wise despite fluctuating team performance and he can play all the controller agents for his team.

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alienista1

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Valyn > Bang

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cameran

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n4rrate over leaf is crazy aint gonna lie

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hes on sen ofc hes gonna get glazed like a donut

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He's got the potential I think but leaf is a contender for the 5 best senti itw 2024 so yeah it's definitely not serious

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thenutoriousPRO

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bang was on no ones lists last year, joins sen and becomes top 2

you cant make this shit up, sen PR is unbeatable

if zander was on sen he would be number 1 lol

eeiu didnt have a all time great season last year to be ranked below "cauanzin"

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uwukitten

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cauanzin is so clear of eeiu it isn't close. what has eeiu done internationally? bro farmed stats in one split regionally and he's suddenly a top initiator 😭

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catNmouse

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why is cauanzins name quoted??

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michaelisupset

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yea obviously when he joined sen he got a lot better

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delulu is not the solulu

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glittering_yard

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all eeiu did was choke against KRU in the match of his life to qualify for Champions 😭

"cauanzin" is 4 years younger than him and 4x better

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aleckin

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bro said ethan top 1

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31Raven

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where is mazino

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NoOne_ButMe

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the verno glaze is crazy
and why is cryo over kinggg
it should be kinggg cryo then verno

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raphherrrr

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kinggg is smoker baby

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BEHEMOTH

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No Natank? Horrible list

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Kingg below cryo??

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no eeiu i aint even looking at the list

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michaelisupset

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why would he be over any of those people

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eeiu is an industry plant.

He was not a better initiator than Sacy, Trent and even C0M, but riot gave the best Americas initiator award to him because he farmed stats against weak teams

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crazy delusion

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joui_jouki

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but its true

eeiu vs MIBR: 1.85 rating, +29

eeiu vs Leviatan: 1.02 rating, +0

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he was still clearly a top initiator last year, only others that were consistently looking like him were heat and maybe trent/sacy. c0m was very inconsistent last season

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i will agree that he's better C0M(not a hard task) but i think he still needs to prove himself internationally and really big games to be a top 3 init in the Americas region

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Imma be honest I already think he did

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Almighty

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Americas fell off if y0y is a top 3 sentinel😂😂

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of xset players still in valorant, 2/3 of them are some of the best in their roles now

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0/8

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Demon1 will be back this year. Mark my words.

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michaelisupset

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honestly I just didn’t know where to put him role wise

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hot take: heat over yay

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catNmouse

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shouldn’t have to be a hot take, heat is so good

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shrike-

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switching off duelist was the best thing to ever happen to him

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catNmouse

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and the worst thing to have happened to havoc simultaneously last year 😭

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2022 ahh list

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Danny

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Oxy > Jawgemo