duelist:
- aspas
- zekken
- jawgemo
initiator:
- ethan
- cauanzin
- trent
sentinel:
- n4rrate
- leaf
- yay
smokes:
- s0m
- bang
- pancada
flex:
- verno
- cryo
- kingg
MrBulbe [#2]you forgot mada in the duelist role (would replace zekken imo) and what is n4rrate doing at the top of sentinel list?
baiter back again ⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️
MrBulbe [#4]bro there is no way you can consider n4rrate as the best sentinel in americas before he even played an official match
not about n4rrate
MrBulbe [#4]bro there is no way you can consider n4rrate as the best sentinel in americas before he even played an official match
then why do you have mada in the top 3 if he’s never played an official match?
MrBulbe [#7]i am not wrong about zekken either
#8, masters MVP
no one's falling for your terrible baits man 😭😭😭
catNmouse [#8]then why do you have mada in the top 3 if he’s never played an official match?
he played a lot of official matches as duelist, just not on NRG. Based on his T2 performance and the off season performance I rate him higher than zekken. Feel free to disagree.
MrBulbe [#11]he played a lot of official matches as duelist, just not on NRG. Based on his T2 performance and the off season performance I rate him higher than zekken. Feel free to disagree.
dying 😭 😭😭😭
n4rrate played tier 1 emea and he carried kc to madrid with shin
terrible bait with no coherence
MrBulbe [#11]he played a lot of official matches as duelist, just not on NRG. Based on his T2 performance and the off season performance I rate him higher than zekken. Feel free to disagree.
“offseason performance” yeah those aren’t official matches and even then, zekken is established and has insane t1 performances which mada can’t make up for as of now
1243 [#13]dying 😭 😭😭😭
n4rrate played tier 1 emea and he carried kc to madrid with shin
terrible bait with no coherence
yeah he played as iniator not sentinel
catNmouse [#15]“offseason performance” yeah those aren’t official matches and even then, zekken is established and has insane t1 performances which mada can’t make up for as of now
this is a new low for you stop arguing with shitty bait
MrBulbe [#16]yeah he played as iniator not sentinel
respect narrate he is the only reason sentinels will make it to bangkok next year
MrBulbe [#4]bro there is no way you can consider n4rrate as the best sentinel in americas before he even played an official match
I am biased obviously
catNmouse [#15]“offseason performance” yeah those aren’t official matches and even then, zekken is established and has insane t1 performances which mada can’t make up for as of now
Tier 2 matches count as official, no? Plus I said that I rate him higher than zekken and you can disagree with my opinion.
MrBulbe [#21]Tier 2 matches count as official, no? Plus I said that I rate him higher than zekken and you can disagree with my opinion.
Yeah you rate him higher because you’re trying to objectify zekken as a bad player lol
H3ENnZ [#6]Fair list overall but n4 is no where near the best sentiin americas
not yet #aheadofthecurve
MrBulbe [#21]Tier 2 matches count as official, no? Plus I said that I rate him higher than zekken and you can disagree with my opinion.
bro said tier 2 count as officials LMAOOOOO
can we give sym the best duelist award since he diffed mada
z12 [#10]narrate is top 3 in every role except controller lmfao
I mean he’s also on controller on abyss and also probably lotus lol
1243 [#25]bro said tier 2 count as officials LMAOOOOO
can we give sym the best duelist award since he diffed mada
gc counts as official too then no? flor is the best memea duelist then
catNmouse [#23]Yeah you rate him higher because you’re trying to objectify zekken as a bad player lol
I never said that zekken is a bad player? Just imo he is nowhere near his peak that was VCT Madrid. And with how competitive Americas is that is not enough to be top3 in his role.
michaelisupset [#28]I mean he’s also on controller on abyss and also probably lotus lol
i genuinely do not remember him ever playing controller 😭
MrBulbe [#22]him playing 1 v 5 wont be enough
I just want you to know that the only reason people fall for your shitty baits is that they don't recognize you, otherwise it'd be clear within a few posts that you're a baiter
MrBulbe [#30]I never said that zekken is a bad player? Just imo he is nowhere near his peak that was VCT Madrid. And with how competitive Americas is that is not enough to be top3 in his role.
he’s still going to be better than most of the duelists securing top 3, did you forget that he as an individual can fry games often? he was a top 5 player in vct 2023 on a dysfunctional team, still had great stats at champs not being too far off from his madrid peak. he’ll be fine next year especially with his jett improving
cohnr [#27]verno is flex but ethan is initiator? huh?
also pancada is overrated
i will not take any Bryan ‘pANcada’ Luna slander
he did better than less and cauanzin in 2024 and yet gets called overrated
catNmouse [#36]he’s still going to be better than most of the duelists securing top 3, did you forget that he as an individual can fry games often? he was a top 5 player in vct 2023 on a dysfunctional team, still had great stats at champs not being too far off from his madrid peak. he’ll be fine next year especially with his jett improving
Zekken can become completely invisible on any map maybe as often as he pops off. And with john as an iniator this year instead of sacy it feels like the utility is not as good, making zekken entry the site without any support, although that is a team issue at this point. So imo zekken will be fine but his team might hold him back from being one of the best duelist stats wise.
cohnr [#27]verno is flex but ethan is initiator? huh?
also pancada is overrated
verno stated that he’s their flex player
uwukitten [#34]the s0m disrespect is crazy, even when he came back with 2 weeks notice he was better than those frauds (also was the best controller of 2023)
I forgot
MrBulbe [#38]Zekken can become completely invisible on any map maybe as often as he pops off. And with john as an iniator this year instead of sacy it feels like the utility is not as good, making zekken entry the site without any support, although that is a team issue at this point. So imo zekken will be fine but his team might hold him back from being one of the best duelist stats wise.
he performed with sacy on smokes, he will be fine
michaelisupset [#40]super duper serious
i like bang but he never was nowhere near top 3 smokes in americas at any given point in the history of the game and he still isn't now lol
uwukitten [#35]I just want you to know that the only reason people fall for your shitty baits is that they don't recognize you, otherwise it'd be clear within a few posts that you're a baiter
how am i baiting by saying that n4rrate can't be considered the best sentinel in the region and making an opinionated statement about zekken?
MrBulbe [#45]how am i baiting by saying that n4rrate can't be considered the best sentinel in the region and making an opinionated statement about zekken?
we both know you're baiting buddy, this won't work on me 😹
uwukitten [#46]we both know you're baiting buddy, this won't work on me 😹
ok then explain to me, how can n4rrate be rated as the best sentinel in americas?
H3ENnZ [#48]Isnt he playing cypher (SEN city classic)
Didn't check but I think Sen ran a double smokes+double ini comp
MrBulbe [#47]ok then explain to me, how can n4rrate be rated as the best sentinel in americas?
I ain't explaining shit and this doesn't have to do with this comment in particular, I am not engaging with your shitty baits lil bro😭
cameran [#49]n4rrate over leaf is crazy aint gonna lie
hes on sen ofc hes gonna get glazed like a donut
MrBlooBloom [#50]Didn't check but I think Sen ran a double smokes+double ini comp
Nah i think sen ran double senti with n4 cypher and zellsis vyse
MrBulbe [#2]you forgot mada in the duelist role (would replace zekken imo) and what is n4rrate doing at the top of sentinel list?
what the fake sen fan
cameran [#49]n4rrate over leaf is crazy aint gonna lie
He's got the potential I think but leaf is a contender for the 5 best senti itw 2024 so yeah it's definitely not serious
thenutoriousPRO [#53]bang was on no ones lists last year, joins sen and becomes top 2
you cant make this shit up, sen PR is unbeatable
if zander was on sen he would be number 1 lol
eeiu didnt have a all time great season last year to be ranked below "cauanzin"
cauanzin is so clear of eeiu it isn't close. what has eeiu done internationally? bro farmed stats in one split regionally and he's suddenly a top initiator 😭
thenutoriousPRO [#53]bang was on no ones lists last year, joins sen and becomes top 2
you cant make this shit up, sen PR is unbeatable
if zander was on sen he would be number 1 lol
eeiu didnt have a all time great season last year to be ranked below "cauanzin"
why is cauanzins name quoted??
cohnr [#27]verno is flex but ethan is initiator? huh?
also pancada is overrated
pancada on the last 2 years has been playing on some of the worst teams in americas, how's he supposed to look good?
thenutoriousPRO [#53]bang was on no ones lists last year, joins sen and becomes top 2
you cant make this shit up, sen PR is unbeatable
if zander was on sen he would be number 1 lol
eeiu didnt have a all time great season last year to be ranked below "cauanzin"
yea obviously when he joined sen he got a lot better
foythvlr [#44]i like bang but he never was nowhere near top 3 smokes in americas at any given point in the history of the game and he still isn't now lol
both 2022 and 2024
in 2022 ppl placed him after marved and pancada, had a down year in 2023 and this year was at the top again along kingg and valyn/tenz (if u still count omen only as a controller).
thenutoriousPRO [#53]bang was on no ones lists last year, joins sen and becomes top 2
you cant make this shit up, sen PR is unbeatable
if zander was on sen he would be number 1 lol
eeiu didnt have a all time great season last year to be ranked below "cauanzin"
all eeiu did was choke against KRU in the match of his life to qualify for Champions 😭
"cauanzin" is 4 years younger than him and 4x better
H3ENnZ [#58]Nah i think sen ran double senti with n4 cypher and zellsis vyse
Oh yeah you're right they ran solo yoru w it
FrenchToast [#37]i will not take any Bryan ‘pANcada’ Luna slander
he did better than less and cauanzin in 2024 and yet gets called overrated
cauanzin was lowkey insane during 2024, probably best player especially with qck
Two_Percent [#71]no eeiu i aint even looking at the list
eeiu is an industry plant.
He was not a better initiator than Sacy, Trent and even C0M, but riot gave the best Americas initiator award to him because he farmed stats against weak teams
nyangmi [#67]both 2022 and 2024
in 2022 ppl placed him after marved and pancada, had a down year in 2023 and this year was at the top again along kingg and valyn/tenz (if u still count omen only as a controller).
2022 americas wasn't a region and he didn't had relevant enough international performances to be considered a top controller (and even regionally he was great only on the LCQ)
2024 is debatable but i don't think he come close, too inconsistent. split 1 was great but was very behind on both kickoff and split 2 in both individual and team results, and also internationally. definitely not even close to valyn, tenz and kingg (although kingg only started on controller on split 2 i think. there's a valid debate on omen but i think it counts)
don't get me wrong he can be on discussion for top 3 going to 2025 specially since we have a lot of new prospects and undefined roles but top 1? let's slow down there (glad OP changed it)
joui_jouki [#75]eeiu is an industry plant.
He was not a better initiator than Sacy, Trent and even C0M, but riot gave the best Americas initiator award to him because he farmed stats against weak teams
crazy delusion
Two_Percent [#79]crazy delusion
but its true
eeiu vs MIBR: 1.85 rating, +29
eeiu vs Leviatan: 1.02 rating, +0
joui_jouki [#81]but its true
eeiu vs MIBR: 1.85 rating, +29
eeiu vs Leviatan: 1.02 rating, +0
he was still clearly a top initiator last year, only others that were consistently looking like him were heat and maybe trent/sacy. c0m was very inconsistent last season
foythvlr [#77]2022 americas wasn't a region and he didn't had relevant enough international performances to be considered a top controller (and even regionally he was great only on the LCQ)
2024 is debatable but i don't think he come close, too inconsistent. split 1 was great but was very behind on both kickoff and split 2 in both individual and team results, and also internationally. definitely not even close to valyn, tenz and kingg (although kingg only started on controller on split 2 i think. there's a valid debate on omen but i think it counts)
don't get me wrong he can be on discussion for top 3 going to 2025 specially since we have a lot of new prospects and undefined roles but top 1? let's slow down there (glad OP changed it)
i mean i wasnt saying top1 either but he's definitely someone to consider for top3 imo. Bang was a top10 rated player in americas overall this year. He did great in split 1 obviously but also was best rated controller in split 2 playoffs. Like regionally he's for sure up there performance wise despite fluctuating team performance and he can play all the controller agents for his team.
Two_Percent [#82]he was still clearly a top initiator last year, only others that were consistently looking like him were heat and maybe trent/sacy. c0m was very inconsistent last season
i will agree that he's better C0M(not a hard task) but i think he still needs to prove himself internationally and really big games to be a top 3 init in the Americas region
Shadow_Monarch [#84]Demon1 will be back this year. Mark my words.
honestly I just didn’t know where to put him role wise
joui_jouki [#85]i will agree that he's better C0M(not a hard task) but i think he still needs to prove himself internationally and really big games to be a top 3 init in the Americas region
Imma be honest I already think he did
catNmouse [#89]shouldn’t have to be a hot take, heat is so good
switching off duelist was the best thing to ever happen to him
shrike- [#90]switching off duelist was the best thing to ever happen to him
and the worst thing to have happened to havoc simultaneously last year 😭