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2023/09/16 is when monyet joined, 2024/05/20 is when monyet left, during this time everyone on earth could see the difference that jinggg makes to the team, something played much worse with monyet, forsaken didn't have the same freedom that he used to have.
It wasn't that Monyet was not a good player, it's that jinggg takes all the attention for prx and he still ends up either getting his one or more, which then allows people like forsaken, something, etc to get into spots which they shouldn't be able to and get a pick for free, singlehandedly if u watch any prx game and actually analyse it, you will 100% see the difference jinggg makes.
The difference is that Monyet is not comfortable being that aggressive whether it's confidence, his style, etc doesn't really matter, he doesn't play like what prx needs him to and that is why he ended up getting dropped, (same problem with ardiis on nrg, notice how his career has fizzled out to nothing but being a rage baiter on stream to keep any semblance of relevance) There is no way in any universe that u can say someone who started on onic g where may I add, he was barely able to go positive against ts, bleed and MIT in the last chance qualifiers, which then ultimately lead to onic not winning LCQ to BOOM while in said game, still not going positive.
but then you'll end up saying "oh no but that's just a bad team, he moved onto rrq and did better"
https://www.vlr.gg/365316/gen-g-vs-rex-regum-qeon-champions-tour-2024-pacific-stage-2-ko
Rex vs Gen'g, Monyet ends -8. This is a knockout game, this is the point to show up, Monyet didn't
https://www.vlr.gg/329914/paper-rex-vs-gen-g-champions-tour-2024-pacific-stage-1-gf
Grand final of Pacific against the strongest team in the league by far and Jinggg ends +14.
There is no comparison u can make between these two players, if Jinggg does badly his team can capitalize and take it into their own hands due to either the space jinggg took, the distraction he made or otherwise just how much of a nuisance he was being to the enemies, U do not get this same value with Monyet, Maybe u could say the stats are better, but the sad reality is they are just not, Jinggg has 1.00 or better on at least 5 agents,with 20+ games and Monyet has the same, but I ask u look at the actual KD jinggg's lowest on his top 8 agents is 1.12kd while monyet's is 1.00 and he averages lower on almost all of them.
There's no feasible way that if u watched prx during monyet era vs jinggg era, you would ever say such a delusional statement.
https://www.vlr.gg/296747/gen-g-vs-paper-rex-champions-tour-2024-pacific-kickoff-winners-c/?game=all&tab=overview
This game is how they got to the playoff stage, Monyet was neutral.
https://www.vlr.gg/event/1924/champions-tour-2024-pacific-kickoff/playoffs this is how they qualified from playoffs to swiss stage, They beat T1, who did not look good in 2024.
they went through swiss stage against Team heretics and Karmine Corp, Neither of which looked good in the start of 2024, they got severely lucky with the seeding and only just got through even still
If they wanted a better seed they had to win https://www.vlr.gg/297258/paper-rex-vs-gen-g-champions-tour-2024-pacific-kickoff-playoffs-gf, Shockingly Monyet went -18 and they got slapped around like a bunch of T2 players all game.
The "3rd place" your getting is this https://www.vlr.gg/event/1921/champions-tour-2024-masters-madrid, a WHOPPING 4 player masters, And they beat a whole 1 team and what was that one team, a more deceased than my grandad LOUD which had looked lets just say, not the best.
and finally, lets just wonder for a second why they had such an easy journey, oh yeah because of their previous years placements and their proven placements previous which... was with jinggg.
So lets start with this https://www.vlr.gg/event/1925/champions-tour-2024-emea-kickoff/group-stage, They started by only just beating GiantX and Fut, GiantX game, 1st map was 13-11 if this flipped and GiantX found something more in this KC loses this game 2-0. In the fut game the same exact thing happens, 20-18 overtime, If this is flipped Fut wins this game 2-0, These are all things considered some of the worst teams in the league, Nonetheless they make it.
Next stage, https://www.vlr.gg/event/1925/champions-tour-2024-emea-kickoff/play-in-stage, KC V Vitality looks good as it's a 2-0, However u have Destrian going -15 on Vitality for the first map which almost certainly KC took advantage of, When this didn't happen in the second map however it once again ended on a nailbiting 15-13, I will say this is not a bad team anymore, so fair enough. They beat Koi dominantly, but lets be honest no one had that sheydos IGL Koi doing shit at that time.
Next stage, https://www.vlr.gg/event/1925/champions-tour-2024-emea-kickoff/playoffs This is arguably the only result which you could've considered "okay, Maybe they'll do something, they beat fnatic 13-10 and 13-8, This was a good win, nothing bad to say other than Fnatic did not look massively good. Then u have the Heretics game, U make of it what u want but i see heretics playing a good first game and then proceeding to get aim diffed 3 games in a row, as i said before, If Team Heretics were a good team like Fnatic or such, they would've still gotten close scorelines even with aim diff happening, but they got dominated. This is not consistency, nor will it win u anything.
Next stage. https://www.vlr.gg/event/1921/champions-tour-2024-masters-madrid/swiss-stage they beat fucking fpx, the fucking chinese fpx, not much of an achievement if u ask me, and then they get knocked out, so u tell me, how do they ever look good without overhype based on beating a bunch of severely mediocre looking at the time Emea teams.
See, if it was just in the stats, I'd've agreed. But KC played SUPER well, their ideas and comps and prep were all super unique (ENGH absolutely cooked), the synergy between the players looked fantastic, and even the maps they lost were very close (what you haven't mentioned is that their two losses at Madrid was a very intense 2-0 against eventual winners Sentinels, and a down-to-the-wire 3 map banger against Paper Rex)
Now lets talk about next masters, which I can only assume it's the next one considering it would make sense to compare with monyet vs when they just got jinggg back.
https://www.vlr.gg/event/2002/champions-tour-2024-pacific-stage-1/playoffs, they won playoffs, something prx with monyet was incapable of, and oh would u look at that https://www.vlr.gg/329914/paper-rex-vs-gen-g-champions-tour-2024-pacific-stage-1-gf, Jinggg went hella positive in the final.
This is the first game, need i remind you G2 Finished 3rd in this Tournament, https://www.vlr.gg/348463/paper-rex-vs-g2-esports-champions-tour-2024-masters-shanghai-ubqf/?game=all&tab=overview. This was a pretty lackluster game for all of prx and G2 were hardcore aim diffing all game, But still even so, Jinggg is -2.
Next game, https://www.vlr.gg/348467/paper-rex-vs-edward-gaming-champions-tour-2024-masters-shanghai-lr1/?game=170795&tab=overview This is the only game they won in Champs, However using your logic, This prx did the same, If this masters was a 4 man, They would've also finished 4th here, Another reminder is that they did so good in their regional competition that they didn't even have to make it through the swiss stage, Unlike they did with Monyet.
https://www.vlr.gg/348471/100-thieves-vs-paper-rex-champions-tour-2024-masters-shanghai-lr2 This is the final game in question, First thing is first two maps are fairly clear towards their respective teams, the 3rd map is a 12-14 nailbiter and when Thieves hit 11, PRX win 4 rounds in a row to get to 11 themselves, then they trade rounds.
The first one goes to thieves due to a missed op shot and a bang 2k with asuna getting 3.
Next round mindfreak tries to go early and loses his life and prx make a good call, jing gets the early pick, calls for his team to swing after he peeks pulls everyone to look at him and then when everyone is distracted, everyone else on prx is better to swing and get an extra 2 off that, that's how they win this round.
Next round, jinggg places his wall and they insta break a piece so he uses that to swing through the wall while the killjoy is reloading and absolutely smothering any attack from that side, Cryo gets a pick with op and then gets a double collat because mindfreak and forsaken play together as they are supposed to, unlucky.
Next round Thieves play well, PRX was dysfunctional on site and they took advantage of it, all in all a 12/14 Close ass game to finish it off, This was the one round Jinggg did not get a pick to bring it back after one of his teammates either traded or died first alone
There is a massive difference and I believe these things show it fairly clearly, Stop being delusional and accept the facts for how they are, Thank you.
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