actual americas role rankings

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gamergirl

Duelists

MIBR aspas
SEN zekken
G2 Jagwemo
KRU keznit
LEV NatanK (demon1 will be flexing more, there are less jett maps than ever)
C9 Oxy
NRG mada
100T Cryo
FUR mwzera
2G silentzz
LOUD dgzin
EG sym (assuming he sticks with EG)

Flex

G2 JonahP
KRU Mazino
NRG Ethan
LEV demon1 (hes flexing in phoenix/raze/neon meta, silence)
FUR heat
100T Asuna
SEN Zellsis
MIBR artzin
EG NaturE
2G Gobera
LOUD v1nny
C9 Xeppaa

Initiator

NRG Verno
100T eeiu
G2 trent
SEN n4rrate (johnqt isnt playing initiator in any serious games)
LOUD cauanzin
EG Derrek
MIBR nzr
LEV C0M
2G Zap
C9 Rossy
KRU adverso
FUR raafa

Controllers

NRG s0m
SEN bang
G2 valyn
LEV kiNgg
100T Zander
LOUD pANcada
EG supamen
FUR Khalil
KRU Melser
C9 v1c
2G lzz
MIBR Xenom

Sentinel

G2 leaf
KRU Shyyy
LEV tex
SEN johnqt
EG yay
MIBR cortezia
100T Boostio
2G pryze
LOUD tuyz
FUR havoc
C9 moose
NRG FNS

im not ranking averages sorry

g2
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lev

who tf cares about the rest of the league?

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gamergirl

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https://www.vlr.gg/337414/g2-esports-vs-leviat-n-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-1-lbf

a reminder for those that dont understand that valyn would be a top 3 smokes itw if he wasnt calling, but even when he is hes dropping aspas numbers in the bo5

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catNmouse

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verno 1st?

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gamergirl

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americas initiators are underwhelming, if anything narrate should be 2nd but we'll assume hes not the best sova

verno is the most talented americas player after zekken, dont think him being better than eeiu should be a hot take

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catNmouse

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i think cauanzin is just as talented if not more 🗿

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gamergirl

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last year he didnt play good at all

him and less took a step back

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catNmouse

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eh trent didn’t either - i mean he had some good games but more really bad games which hurt his stats a lot

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Hyssopus1

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Mad disrespect with Xenom.

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gamergirl

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tbh i just didnt change the lower rankings of the list alot xenom is probably better than khalil when i watch gamers club but everyone had good performance in that tournament so idk

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Hyssopus1

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KRU Melser
C9 v1c
2G lzz

Above Xenom is crazy.

#23

cloudberry

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You're very clearly biased

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Hyssopus1

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Yes i am biased to say that our top 1 stats player from tier 2 is not better than fucking LZZ,V1C AND MELSER.

I could say that he is even better than khalil but i am respecting that he did not play at tier 1 yet, but saying that he is below LZZ,v1c and Melser is just 0 ball knowledge

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catNmouse

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v1c is good too, he’s being underrated just as much as xenom

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Veri

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Respect lzz? He was the best player for 2G in playoffs and completely outperformed Zander in both playoff games they played

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catNmouse

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true, he was absolutely dogshit in groups but turned up in the real matches i just checked. he had the highest kda in playoffs

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Hyssopus1

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Ok guys Xenom is the worst player in the League MIBR will be the 12th next year, i say X and you guys understand Y holy fuck you guys are stupid.

You guys can say whatever shit you want i don't care, if MIBR be good next year is by some miracle not because they have good players.

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Veri

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you said xenom is a lot better than Lzz, i replied saying that this is not true as Lzz is also very good and has proven it in higher levels of play. What am i distorting? When did i say anything about MIBR being shit? chill dude

Go outside for 10minutes and breath some air off this forum please its starting to affect your mind

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Hyssopus1

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Watch VCT next year, we will see who is better.

Also if you guys wants to talk shit let me talk shit too,Cortezia and Xenom will mop the floor with pancada and tuyz.

Your LOUD will be the worst BR team next year.

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cloudberry

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No one is saying anything negative except you

continue thread →

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Veri

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Cortezia is not touching Pancada's toenails

Xenom and Tuyz is a good one thou

lets see

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cloudberry

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Melser is on the same level as Khalil recently performance-wise, so if you can respect Khalil above xenom then Khalil shouldn't be any different

v1c was putting up numbers equal to, if not better than, xenom in NA Challengers. He's also played in this offseason with some of the better tier 1 players in Americas and was holding his own and then some

lz was a huge part of an Ascension-winning team and performed very heavily in the playoffs leading up to their win

And xenom wasn't top 1 in stats; in Split 2 he was 13th

It isn't biased to say that xenom could be better than all three—he very well could be. But it's very biased to say that putting him below the other three is unjustifiable

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catNmouse

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lz was 2gs best player in playoffs just to let you know. he was bad in groups but turned into a beast in playoffs

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cloudberry

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Ty

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Hyssopus1

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Learn to use VLR first you are including fucking qualify on that shit, this is the true stats of the split.

https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2089/gamers-club-challengers-league-2024-brazil-split-2?exclude=26204.26205.26206.26435.26436.26437.26438.26207&min_rounds=0&agent=all

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cloudberry

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Chill

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catNmouse

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yeah he’s being crazy underrated, definitely top 6 in my eyes i believe he can translate it to tier 1 matches

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catNmouse

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people don’t pay attention to br which sucks but v1c is super solid, he had great performance. in challenger

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Lacra8729

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Is because he has not played in tier 1 and is imposible to rank most of the players before the season

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Average_NA_fan

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stfu asspiss is a baiter mada clears

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gamergirl

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if this was an offseason event ranking maybe

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catNmouse

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https://www.vlr.gg/281026/kr-esports-vs-leviat-n-superdome-2023-colombia-ubsf

not even

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Lacra8729

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Can u drop your tracker.gg pls imagine saying that mada is better that aspas, how many World cups mada has? I think you are like gold

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Average_NA_fan

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asspiss is a baiter mada is mechanically better

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GattoVLR

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Ok, all Furia roles are wrong.
Mwzera - Initiator
Havoc - Duelist
Raafa - Flex
Heat - Sentinel

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gamergirl

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i didnt make this list i just copied and made it correct

interesting that heat is sentinel tho hes a better flex and duelist than havoc and raafa

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deadpark

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hi gamergirl

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michaelisupset

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n4rrate is on senti sorry to tell you

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gamergirl

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hes not thankfully

kraplan came to his senses and bullied him into playing sova in ranked

johnqt back to being the backsite anchor kitten

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KClaw

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Aaah no bro what? Just checked tracker narrate is still on senti and has got the most hours in on cypher this act while johnqt has most hours on sova and fade

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saynotoherpes

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ranked trust me

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ilovetoast

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zekken number 2 is crazy

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catNmouse

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what’s crazy about it? he’s just a naturally good player

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saynotoherpes

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your posts have been to a sufficient quality where I will be removing you from the kill list, congratulations gamergirl as you have narrowly avoided death 😈😈😈

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saynotoherpes

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Duelists

MIBR aspas
SEN zekken
G2 Jagwemo
KRU keznit
C9 Oxy
LEV NatanK (not natank being bad just oxy being good)
NRG mada
100T Cryo
LOUD dgzin (br0nzilians swear by him)
FUR havoc (its havoc dumbass)
2G silentzz
EG sym

Flex

KRU Mazino
G2 JonahP
NRG Ethan
LEV demon1 (hes flexing in phoenix/raze/neon meta, silence)
FUR raafa (is bro retard?)
EG NaturE (nature is one of the best pieces on eg)
SEN Zellsis (zellsis is an incredible role player and im tired of people saying hes not)
100T Asuna
MIBR artzin
2G Gobera
LOUD v1nny
C9 Xeppaa

Initiator

NRG Verno
100T eeiu
G2 trent
C9 Rossy (my arab prince is so fucking good)
LEV C0M (hes an init merchant he has to be good)
EG Derrek (another crazy good peice of eg)
MIBR nzr
2G Zap
LOUD cauanzin (im just hating ngl)
FUR mwzera (ok, i also hate mw init)
SEN johnqt (until proven otherwise its john)
KRU adverso

Controllers

G2 valyn
SEN bang
LEV kiNgg
NRG s0m (its not healthy to suck a dick this hard)
100T Zander
KRU Melser (also good)
MIBR Xenom (mental illness putting him low)
C9 v1c (very good pick up, like him a lot)
EG supamen
LOUD pANcada (unc is washed)
2G lzz
FUR Khalil

Sentinel

G2 leaf
LEV tex
SEN n4rrate (womp womp)
EG yay
KRU Shyyy
MIBR cortezia
100T Boostio
2G pryze
LOUD tuyz
FUR heat (a)
C9 moose
NRG FNS

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catNmouse

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bro said c0m is an init merchant when his second most played agent is viper

unless they’re on a sova map, c0m should be the viper player

CAUANZIN 9TH???? he’s top 3 and over verno

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dont care because it doesnt fit my narrative, ignored

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saynotoherpes

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straight up missed the second half of this post idk if you edited it or something. cauanzin deserves to be top 5 a least and I could easily hear any argument to even top 3 but im legit hating and want to make derrek and c0m look better because I am biased towards them

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catNmouse

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fair enough, i like c0m a lot so i would do the same, but not for cauanzin though i rate that man very highly

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raphherrrr

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nataNk is a flex not a duelist lmfao

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catNmouse

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jett isn’t that popular in this map pool and natank is aggressive. who knows tho?

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gamergirl

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he will be without takaS