actual americas role rankings

Duelists

MIBR aspas
SEN zekken
G2 Jagwemo
KRU keznit
LEV NatanK (demon1 will be flexing more, there are less jett maps than ever)
C9 Oxy
NRG mada
100T Cryo
FUR mwzera
2G silentzz
LOUD dgzin
EG sym (assuming he sticks with EG)

Flex

G2 JonahP
KRU Mazino
NRG Ethan
LEV demon1 (hes flexing in phoenix/raze/neon meta, silence)
FUR heat
100T Asuna
SEN Zellsis
MIBR artzin
EG NaturE
2G Gobera
LOUD v1nny
C9 Xeppaa

Initiator

NRG Verno
100T eeiu
G2 trent
SEN n4rrate (johnqt isnt playing initiator in any serious games)
LOUD cauanzin
EG Derrek
MIBR nzr
LEV C0M
2G Zap
C9 Rossy
KRU adverso
FUR raafa

Controllers

NRG s0m
SEN bang
G2 valyn
LEV kiNgg
100T Zander
LOUD pANcada
EG supamen
FUR Khalil
KRU Melser
C9 v1c
2G lzz
MIBR Xenom

Sentinel

G2 leaf
KRU Shyyy
LEV tex
SEN johnqt
EG yay
MIBR cortezia
100T Boostio
2G pryze
LOUD tuyz
FUR havoc
C9 moose
NRG FNS

im not ranking averages sorry

1. g2
2. sen
3. lev

who tf cares about the rest of the league?

https://www.vlr.gg/337414/g2-esports-vs-leviat-n-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-1-lbf

• a reminder for those that dont understand that valyn would be a top 3 smokes itw if he wasnt calling, but even when he is hes dropping aspas numbers in the bo5

verno 1st?

catNmouse [#3]

verno 1st?

americas initiators are underwhelming, if anything narrate should be 2nd but we'll assume hes not the best sova

verno is the most talented americas player after zekken, dont think him being better than eeiu should be a hot take

gamergirl [#4]

americas initiators are underwhelming, if anything narrate should be 2nd but we'll assume hes not the best sova

verno is the most talented americas player after zekken, dont think him being better than eeiu should be a hot take

i think cauanzin is just as talented if not more 🗿

catNmouse [#5]

i think cauanzin is just as talented if not more 🗿

last year he didnt play good at all

him and less took a step back

Mad disrespect with Xenom.

gamergirl [#6]

last year he didnt play good at all

him and less took a step back

eh trent didn’t either - i mean he had some good games but more really bad games which hurt his stats a lot

Hyssopus1 [#7]

Mad disrespect with Xenom.

tbh i just didnt change the lower rankings of the list alot xenom is probably better than khalil when i watch gamers club but everyone had good performance in that tournament so idk

stfu asspiss is a baiter mada clears

Hyssopus1 [#7]

Mad disrespect with Xenom.

Is because he has not played in tier 1 and is imposible to rank most of the players before the season

Average_NA_fan [#10]

stfu asspiss is a baiter mada clears

if this was an offseason event ranking maybe

Average_NA_fan [#10]

stfu asspiss is a baiter mada clears

Can u drop your tracker.gg pls imagine saying that mada is better that aspas, how many World cups mada has? I think you are like gold

gamergirl [#12]

if this was an offseason event ranking maybe

https://www.vlr.gg/281026/kr-esports-vs-leviat-n-superdome-2023-colombia-ubsf

not even

Ok, all Furia roles are wrong.
Mwzera - Initiator
Havoc - Duelist
Raafa - Flex
Heat - Sentinel

Lacra8729 [#13]

Can u drop your tracker.gg pls imagine saying that mada is better that aspas, how many World cups mada has? I think you are like gold

asspiss is a baiter mada is mechanically better

hi gamergirl

n4rrate is on senti sorry to tell you

michaelisupset [#18]

n4rrate is on senti sorry to tell you

hes not thankfully

kraplan came to his senses and bullied him into playing sova in ranked

johnqt back to being the backsite anchor kitten

GattoVLR [#15]

Ok, all Furia roles are wrong.
Mwzera - Initiator
Havoc - Duelist
Raafa - Flex
Heat - Sentinel

i didnt make this list i just copied and made it correct

interesting that heat is sentinel tho hes a better flex and duelist than havoc and raafa

gamergirl [#19]

hes not thankfully

kraplan came to his senses and bullied him into playing sova in ranked

johnqt back to being the backsite anchor kitten

Aaah no bro what? Just checked tracker narrate is still on senti and has got the most hours in on cypher this act while johnqt has most hours on sova and fade

gamergirl [#9]

tbh i just didnt change the lower rankings of the list alot xenom is probably better than khalil when i watch gamers club but everyone had good performance in that tournament so idk

KRU Melser
C9 v1c
2G lzz

Above Xenom is crazy.

Hyssopus1 [#22]

KRU Melser
C9 v1c
2G lzz

Above Xenom is crazy.

You're very clearly biased

zekken number 2 is crazy

Hyssopus1 [#22]

KRU Melser
C9 v1c
2G lzz

Above Xenom is crazy.

people don’t pay attention to br which sucks but v1c is super solid, he had great performance. in challenger

ilovetoast [#24]

zekken number 2 is crazy

what’s crazy about it? he’s just a naturally good player

cloudberry [#23]

You're very clearly biased

Yes i am biased to say that our top 1 stats player from tier 2 is not better than fucking LZZ,V1C AND MELSER.

I could say that he is even better than khalil but i am respecting that he did not play at tier 1 yet, but saying that he is below LZZ,v1c and Melser is just 0 ball knowledge

your posts have been to a sufficient quality where I will be removing you from the kill list, congratulations gamergirl as you have narrowly avoided death 😈😈😈

Hyssopus1 [#27]

Yes i am biased to say that our top 1 stats player from tier 2 is not better than fucking LZZ,V1C AND MELSER.

I could say that he is even better than khalil but i am respecting that he did not play at tier 1 yet, but saying that he is below LZZ,v1c and Melser is just 0 ball knowledge

v1c is good too, he’s being underrated just as much as xenom

gamergirl [#19]

hes not thankfully

kraplan came to his senses and bullied him into playing sova in ranked

johnqt back to being the backsite anchor kitten

ranked trust me

Hyssopus1 [#27]

Yes i am biased to say that our top 1 stats player from tier 2 is not better than fucking LZZ,V1C AND MELSER.

I could say that he is even better than khalil but i am respecting that he did not play at tier 1 yet, but saying that he is below LZZ,v1c and Melser is just 0 ball knowledge

Respect lzz? He was the best player for 2G in playoffs and completely outperformed Zander in both playoff games they played

Hyssopus1 [#27]

Yes i am biased to say that our top 1 stats player from tier 2 is not better than fucking LZZ,V1C AND MELSER.

I could say that he is even better than khalil but i am respecting that he did not play at tier 1 yet, but saying that he is below LZZ,v1c and Melser is just 0 ball knowledge

Melser is on the same level as Khalil recently performance-wise, so if you can respect Khalil above xenom then Khalil shouldn't be any different

v1c was putting up numbers equal to, if not better than, xenom in NA Challengers. He's also played in this offseason with some of the better tier 1 players in Americas and was holding his own and then some

lz was a huge part of an Ascension-winning team and performed very heavily in the playoffs leading up to their win

And xenom wasn't top 1 in stats; in Split 2 he was 13th

It isn't biased to say that xenom could be better than all three—he very well could be. But it's very biased to say that putting him below the other three is unjustifiable

Veri [#31]

Respect lzz? He was the best player for 2G in playoffs and completely outperformed Zander in both playoff games they played

true, he was absolutely dogshit in groups but turned up in the real matches i just checked. he had the highest kda in playoffs

Veri [#31]

Respect lzz? He was the best player for 2G in playoffs and completely outperformed Zander in both playoff games they played

Ok guys Xenom is the worst player in the League MIBR will be the 12th next year, i say X and you guys understand Y holy fuck you guys are stupid.

You guys can say whatever shit you want i don't care, if MIBR be good next year is by some miracle not because they have good players.

cloudberry [#32]

Melser is on the same level as Khalil recently performance-wise, so if you can respect Khalil above xenom then Khalil shouldn't be any different

v1c was putting up numbers equal to, if not better than, xenom in NA Challengers. He's also played in this offseason with some of the better tier 1 players in Americas and was holding his own and then some

lz was a huge part of an Ascension-winning team and performed very heavily in the playoffs leading up to their win

And xenom wasn't top 1 in stats; in Split 2 he was 13th

It isn't biased to say that xenom could be better than all three—he very well could be. But it's very biased to say that putting him below the other three is unjustifiable

lz was 2gs best player in playoffs just to let you know. he was bad in groups but turned into a beast in playoffs

catNmouse [#35]

lz was 2gs best player in playoffs just to let you know. he was bad in groups but turned into a beast in playoffs

Ty

cloudberry [#32]

Melser is on the same level as Khalil recently performance-wise, so if you can respect Khalil above xenom then Khalil shouldn't be any different

v1c was putting up numbers equal to, if not better than, xenom in NA Challengers. He's also played in this offseason with some of the better tier 1 players in Americas and was holding his own and then some

lz was a huge part of an Ascension-winning team and performed very heavily in the playoffs leading up to their win

And xenom wasn't top 1 in stats; in Split 2 he was 13th

It isn't biased to say that xenom could be better than all three—he very well could be. But it's very biased to say that putting him below the other three is unjustifiable

Learn to use VLR first you are including fucking qualify on that shit, this is the true stats of the split.

https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2089/gamers-club-challengers-league-2024-brazil-split-2?exclude=26204.26205.26206.26435.26436.26437.26438.26207&min_rounds=0&agent=all

Hyssopus1 [#37]

Learn to use VLR first you are including fucking qualify on that shit, this is the true stats of the split.

https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2089/gamers-club-challengers-league-2024-brazil-split-2?exclude=26204.26205.26206.26435.26436.26437.26438.26207&min_rounds=0&agent=all

Chill

Hyssopus1 [#37]

Learn to use VLR first you are including fucking qualify on that shit, this is the true stats of the split.

https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2089/gamers-club-challengers-league-2024-brazil-split-2?exclude=26204.26205.26206.26435.26436.26437.26438.26207&min_rounds=0&agent=all

yeah he’s being crazy underrated, definitely top 6 in my eyes i believe he can translate it to tier 1 matches

Hyssopus1 [#34]

Ok guys Xenom is the worst player in the League MIBR will be the 12th next year, i say X and you guys understand Y holy fuck you guys are stupid.

You guys can say whatever shit you want i don't care, if MIBR be good next year is by some miracle not because they have good players.

you said xenom is a lot better than Lzz, i replied saying that this is not true as Lzz is also very good and has proven it in higher levels of play. What am i distorting? When did i say anything about MIBR being shit? chill dude

Go outside for 10minutes and breath some air off this forum please its starting to affect your mind

Veri [#40]

you said xenom is a lot better than Lzz, i replied saying that this is not true as Lzz is also very good and has proven it in higher levels of play. What am i distorting? When did i say anything about MIBR being shit? chill dude

Go outside for 10minutes and breath some air off this forum please its starting to affect your mind

Watch VCT next year, we will see who is better.

Also if you guys wants to talk shit let me talk shit too,Cortezia and Xenom will mop the floor with pancada and tuyz.

Your LOUD will be the worst BR team next year.

Hyssopus1 [#41]

Watch VCT next year, we will see who is better.

Also if you guys wants to talk shit let me talk shit too,Cortezia and Xenom will mop the floor with pancada and tuyz.

Your LOUD will be the worst BR team next year.

No one is saying anything negative except you

cloudberry [#42]

No one is saying anything negative except you

You're very clearly biased

saynotoherpes [#28]

your posts have been to a sufficient quality where I will be removing you from the kill list, congratulations gamergirl as you have narrowly avoided death 😈😈😈

Duelists

1. MIBR aspas
2. SEN zekken
3. G2 Jagwemo
4. KRU keznit
5. C9 Oxy
6. LEV NatanK (not natank being bad just oxy being good)
7. NRG mada
8. 100T Cryo
9. LOUD dgzin (br0nzilians swear by him)
10. FUR havoc (its havoc dumbass)
11. 2G silentzz
12. EG sym

Flex

1. KRU Mazino
2. G2 JonahP
3. NRG Ethan
4. LEV demon1 (hes flexing in phoenix/raze/neon meta, silence)
5. FUR raafa (is bro retard?)
6. EG NaturE (nature is one of the best pieces on eg)
7. SEN Zellsis (zellsis is an incredible role player and im tired of people saying hes not)
8. 100T Asuna
9. MIBR artzin
10. 2G Gobera
11. LOUD v1nny
12. C9 Xeppaa

Initiator

1. NRG Verno
2. 100T eeiu
3. G2 trent
4. C9 Rossy (my arab prince is so fucking good)
5. LEV C0M (hes an init merchant he has to be good)
6. EG Derrek (another crazy good peice of eg)
7. MIBR nzr
8. 2G Zap
9. LOUD cauanzin (im just hating ngl)
10. FUR mwzera (ok, i also hate mw init)
11. SEN johnqt (until proven otherwise its john)
12. KRU adverso

Controllers

1. G2 valyn
2. SEN bang
3. LEV kiNgg
4. NRG s0m (its not healthy to suck a dick this hard)
5. 100T Zander
6. KRU Melser (also good)
7. MIBR Xenom (mental illness putting him low)
8. C9 v1c (very good pick up, like him a lot)
9. EG supamen
10. LOUD pANcada (unc is washed)
11. 2G lzz
12. FUR Khalil

Sentinel

1. G2 leaf
2. LEV tex
3. SEN n4rrate (womp womp)
4. EG yay
5. KRU Shyyy
6. MIBR cortezia
7. 100T Boostio
8. 2G pryze
9. LOUD tuyz
10. FUR heat (a)
11. C9 moose
12. NRG FNS

saynotoherpes [#44]

Duelists

1. MIBR aspas
2. SEN zekken
3. G2 Jagwemo
4. KRU keznit
5. C9 Oxy
6. LEV NatanK (not natank being bad just oxy being good)
7. NRG mada
8. 100T Cryo
9. LOUD dgzin (br0nzilians swear by him)
10. FUR havoc (its havoc dumbass)
11. 2G silentzz
12. EG sym

Flex

1. KRU Mazino
2. G2 JonahP
3. NRG Ethan
4. LEV demon1 (hes flexing in phoenix/raze/neon meta, silence)
5. FUR raafa (is bro retard?)
6. EG NaturE (nature is one of the best pieces on eg)
7. SEN Zellsis (zellsis is an incredible role player and im tired of people saying hes not)
8. 100T Asuna
9. MIBR artzin
10. 2G Gobera
11. LOUD v1nny
12. C9 Xeppaa

Initiator

1. NRG Verno
2. 100T eeiu
3. G2 trent
4. C9 Rossy (my arab prince is so fucking good)
5. LEV C0M (hes an init merchant he has to be good)
6. EG Derrek (another crazy good peice of eg)
7. MIBR nzr
8. 2G Zap
9. LOUD cauanzin (im just hating ngl)
10. FUR mwzera (ok, i also hate mw init)
11. SEN johnqt (until proven otherwise its john)
12. KRU adverso

Controllers

1. G2 valyn
2. SEN bang
3. LEV kiNgg
4. NRG s0m (its not healthy to suck a dick this hard)
5. 100T Zander
6. KRU Melser (also good)
7. MIBR Xenom (mental illness putting him low)
8. C9 v1c (very good pick up, like him a lot)
9. EG supamen
10. LOUD pANcada (unc is washed)
11. 2G lzz
12. FUR Khalil

Sentinel

1. G2 leaf
2. LEV tex
3. SEN n4rrate (womp womp)
4. EG yay
5. KRU Shyyy
6. MIBR cortezia
7. 100T Boostio
8. 2G pryze
9. LOUD tuyz
10. FUR heat (a)
11. C9 moose
12. NRG FNS

bro said c0m is an init merchant when his second most played agent is viper

unless they’re on a sova map, c0m should be the viper player

CAUANZIN 9TH???? he’s top 3 and over verno

catNmouse [#45]

bro said c0m is an init merchant when his second most played agent is viper

unless they’re on a sova map, c0m should be the viper player

CAUANZIN 9TH???? he’s top 3 and over verno

dont care because it doesnt fit my narrative, ignored

Hyssopus1 [#41]

Watch VCT next year, we will see who is better.

Also if you guys wants to talk shit let me talk shit too,Cortezia and Xenom will mop the floor with pancada and tuyz.

Your LOUD will be the worst BR team next year.

Cortezia is not touching Pancada's toenails

Xenom and Tuyz is a good one thou

lets see

catNmouse [#45]

bro said c0m is an init merchant when his second most played agent is viper

unless they’re on a sova map, c0m should be the viper player

CAUANZIN 9TH???? he’s top 3 and over verno

straight up missed the second half of this post idk if you edited it or something. cauanzin deserves to be top 5 a least and I could easily hear any argument to even top 3 but im legit hating and want to make derrek and c0m look better because I am biased towards them

saynotoherpes [#48]

straight up missed the second half of this post idk if you edited it or something. cauanzin deserves to be top 5 a least and I could easily hear any argument to even top 3 but im legit hating and want to make derrek and c0m look better because I am biased towards them

fair enough, i like c0m a lot so i would do the same, but not for cauanzin though i rate that man very highly

nataNk is a flex not a duelist lmfao

raphherrrr [#50]

nataNk is a flex not a duelist lmfao

jett isn’t that popular in this map pool and natank is aggressive. who knows tho?

raphherrrr [#50]

nataNk is a flex not a duelist lmfao

he will be without takaS