Best Viper Players All Time

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Cluckyistaken

I love nAts viper, his molly lineups are insane and his aggressive plays with his orb.

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michaelisupset

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less

#3

gamergirl

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kronikel

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Hades_Loves_Rb

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less clears him any day of the week

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sideshowsbaldhead

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less

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dort

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s0m clears him

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Anoymouse

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one word: Cove

#MVGA #MAKEVLRGREATAGAIN

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Hades_Loves_Rb

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please use your critical thinking skills and realize that viper does not have a cove

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Anoymouse

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ok??

I am just telling him about the incident that happened

hop off my dick the fuck???

#MVGA #MAKEVLRGREATAGAIN

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dort

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loud is finished, u can take the flair off now

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Anoymouse

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u gotta stop with the irony

#MVGA #MAKEVLRGREATAGAIN

#8

Miseryz

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less claers nats

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Yuh_aye

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Less

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nihso

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KPI Insider

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Telextro_786

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stellar

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catNmouse

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fns

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revenge39

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aspas

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SomeoneLikeU

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He didn’t say player

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sentinelmain377

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Less clears n0ts. n0ts only cares about TL salary and not winning kekw

edit: I say this someone that got interested in VCT when watching god nAts. Current n0ts is so bad, it is making me say bad stuff about my 2nd favorite player (after Ange1W of course)

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number1_cned_hater

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Peak wise nats is the best viper since he revolutionized a lot of viper plays

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Yuh_aye

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Peak Nats's (Gambit Era) lurks would get shut down in a swiftplay today

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number1_cned_hater

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You really don't know shit

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Yuh_aye

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you think people just completely give up B these days to the point you can literally just walk up and take rope like this?

https://youtu.be/58Yuc0_-XUM?si=RGOu3WD7lr9ufUlT

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Yuh_aye

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The last time Nats won an international match - 0.66 on viper, worst rated player on that map and throughout the series

https://www.vlr.gg/220443/team-liquid-vs-edward-gaming-champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo-ubqf/?game=132700&tab=overview

Last time he played an international match - 0.56 on viper, worst rated player on that map

https://www.vlr.gg/247103/team-liquid-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-group-stage-elim-d/?game=137405&tab=overview

Most recent stage Nats played (EMEA Stage 2 2024) - Not even a top 5 viper regionally

https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2094/champions-tour-2024-emea-stage-2?exclude=&min_rounds=0&agent=viper

Sure he's on a bad team and he's held back blah blah blah, but he's just objectively not the best viper player ever. The same way tenz isn't the best jett ever. This isn't the jurassic era of val anymore.

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number1_cned_hater

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Notice how I am talking about his "peak" just wanted to let u know!

#29

Yuh_aye

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i could accept that, as long as ur not trying to imply that that makes him the best viper ever (literally the title of the post), because that's not true for the same reason tenz isn't the best jett player

#30

Aayan

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I won't comment on the argument for best Viper oat since I don't think he is
but I think you're cherrypicking your stats to make him look even worse than he actually is
I'll show you, I can cherrypick all of his wins, and if you only count these (barring 1) he looks a lot better than he is.
The truth is he is somewhere in the middle

https://www.vlr.gg/353169/team-liquid-vs-karmine-corp-champions-tour-2024-emea-stage-2-w3
https://www.vlr.gg/318940/team-liquid-vs-gentle-mates-champions-tour-2024-emea-stage-1-w5
https://www.vlr.gg/318928/team-liquid-vs-giantx-champions-tour-2024-emea-stage-1-w3 (low)
https://www.vlr.gg/318913/koi-vs-team-liquid-champions-tour-2024-emea-stage-1-w1
https://www.vlr.gg/297407/team-liquid-vs-koi-champions-tour-2024-emea-kickoff-opening-b

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Yuh_aye

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his last international win, game, and literally most recent showing isn't cherrypicking, those are pretty relevant points in time.

anyways tho

Stage 2 2024- not a top 5 viper regionally
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2094/champions-tour-2024-emea-stage-2?exclude=&min_rounds=0&agent=viper

Stage 1 2024 - 3rd regionally
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1998/champions-tour-2024-emea-stage-1?exclude=&min_rounds=0&agent=viper

2024 Kickoff - 5th regionally (only 3 games tho so take that how you will)
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1925/champions-tour-2024-emea-kickoff?exclude=&min_rounds=0&agent=viper

Champs 2023 - 3rd internationally (but only played 2 games and got grouped, 1st btw is Less )
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1657/valorant-champions-2023?exclude=&min_rounds=0&agent=viper

Masters Tokyo - not a top 5 viper internationally (or even close, only 3 game but still)
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1494/champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo?exclude=&min_rounds=0&agent=viper

EMEA League 2023 - not a top 5 viper regionally
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1190/champions-tour-2023-emea-league?exclude=&min_rounds=0&agent=viper

Thats the last 2 years

Yes stats don't tell the whole story
Yes I believe he's better than some of the people statistically better than him
Yes some of it can be blamed on liquid being liquid

But I'm not cherrypicking or hating on the guy, he just isn't the best viper ever

#34

Aayan

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Stage 2 2024- not a top 5 viper regionally

fair

Stage 1 2024

3rd

2024 Kickoff, Champs 2023, Masters Tokyo

small sample size (so will exclude both good and bad)

EMEA League 2023
trexx and mojj both have under 30 rounds played

However I agree, on the last 3 bullet points and your conclusion. I think he is at least top 5 (top 3 if im feeling generous) considering he's still a valuable player in tier 1. The main thing I just wanted to point out is that stats don't reflect that he's a pretty consistent player if you adjust for his teams performance

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Gummybears

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CHRON

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unknown_trash

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a bit underrated as he isnt really known for his viper but mako is very good on viper. probably best in pacific and top 5 itw imo.

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Srathens1

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Sacy Viper clears all

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Diebs

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less

#33

Alge

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Mistic molly vs sentinels lives rent free in my mind

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Hades_Loves_Rb

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fnc mistic flash vs fnc lives rent free in my mind

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destroylonely

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Less ofc

#37

Crypto_816

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Less - Better Mechanics
nAts - Better Viper Player
s0m - Combination of the two