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How tf china get 4 slots to champion?

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#1
Tr1tonz

I know riot is trying to help china to get more opportunities to promote but 4 is just too much for a new( kinda weak honestly) region . Look at EMEA where fps esport game is so strong (cs2) , i think they deserves 6 slots and china is 2 or 5 slots for americas and emea, 2 for china is enough imo

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LeCat
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Apac and china have the same number of trophies

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Tr1tonz
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ye but just remember how prx destroyed edg :Đ and i’m just comparing china to NA and EMEA tho

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LeCat
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Glad we are not determining a region slot by trophies then. So how do we actually determine it? China second seed destroyed Americas second seed and their first seed only lost to the eventually grand finalist. And China haven't even had their own league by that point.

Its not like Zeta, TL or Kru were that much more competitive than FPX before they even have their own league

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Tr1tonz
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agree but i still think emea deserves more slots and china get less (there’re many good players and fps team in emea). Btw edg also lost to loud tho, they met blg in lower breaket in addition.

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EMea had 2/5 teams going out of the group stage last champion, China had 2/3. Out of the 5 other EMEA team which of then are a "good" team that deserves to be in Champions? KC? KOI?

There's a reason why all the LCQ team, even the fabled Navi failed to make it through groups. And its because even now there's a parity among the Top teams of the region. Even before the Chinese league is a thing.

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Tr1tonz
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nah it’s too obvious that this is a completely priority for chinese

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Ullyr
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fpx first chinese org master btw

#20
Liem
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BabyJ and Apac have the same amount of trophies

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yuriito
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how did you get that info (that CN has 4 slots)?

#4
Injonc
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Every regions get 4 slots

#6
Zerphyr1
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pretty obvious tbh

#7
yuriito
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sorry

#8
Zerphyr1
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not ur fault but just based off experience there would be 4 slots for CN

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daddydaichii
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its okay

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TM06Nick
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Why would you want 1 region to get 6 slots. That's basically rewarding mediocrity as it's an 11 team league so the 5th/6th are average/below average

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Tr1tonz
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i just want to watch a high competitive tournament (champion is the biggest tour) and more good team is more fun no? However, china region is not that good to deserve that much slots. This is so unfair. And remember china is a valorant region but it is also only 1 country :Đ

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simo98
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That will be like CS region problem bro
Other region doesn't get much competitive because they don't have place to learn big competitive.
(Which it's problem like India and oce problem but good thing oce get place in china)
To make fair same as other region the slot will be the same
U know this Valo is small but big at the same time.
It's not easy u know to make 44 partner at the same time learn being same competitive as other region even the game is same release date.
If Prx doesn't get into international they will be never learn eu or na style and make new style as benkai said in interview.

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Tr1tonz
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sure that riot is doing good with making the balance between regions and valve not really care about asia in CS. But you have to agree with me that watching a cs tournament is much better experience and more competitive .After all, china is still a country, vct champion is an international tour that for players from around the world compete, not the “VCT china champion”.

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simo98
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Nope I never watch CS tournament since my region doesn't get cover and xccurate stoped competitive.
I also stoped playing the game 2022 cheater more a problem and I never enjoy the game anymore

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Tr1tonz
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yup just talking about the esport aspect in cs bro

#61
simo98
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"But you have to agree with me that watching a cs tournament is much better experience"
So I shouldn't agree

#67
Tr1tonz
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ok

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simo98
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Also u in ur post u bring CS to so I would answer and bring CS aspect to

#48
blx
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if cs tried to include other regions and develope cs in pacific/china i promise you CS Majors would easily break twitch and streaming records to the point where no one can compete vs them lol while still maintaining the competetiveness because pacific teams might be considered "dark horse teams" and we'll see some upsets that'll break the internet

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Tr1tonz
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yes, so sad that valve didn’t do that

#42
simo98
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"i just want to watch a high competitive tournament"
Also are u the one who got Leo interview?

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yuriito
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CHINA NUMBA 1

#10
grenji
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Xi Jinping is probably better at Raze than Monyet. They deserve it tbh.

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Tr1tonz
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monyet is not good ik but you can’t take one player to represent for one region :Đ. So i can say jingg is just better than any chinese raze that you can find in vct china

#28
Cl4W
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i think joe biden better because he has more experience

#12
usersux
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Every region gets 3 slots

#13
huggosappien
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every league has 2, masters madrid is 8-team event

#27
Tr1tonz
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talking about champion bro

#14
XanXanUk
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How did China get their own league and, let's say, India didn't is the better question. And the answer is Tencent

#15
grenji
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???? are you implying India has better infrastructure and competition for a circuit than CHINA?

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geospliced
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Convergence production goes hard

#17
rosso4000
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blud said india

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Ullyr
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sorry but india is terrible example for this lol

#29
smthlikeyou11
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bro wants revenant esports in champions seoul

#36
Cl4W
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yes Tencent is Riot mom and China has a lot of money

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Astar
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tencent own riot duh

#30
Tr1tonz
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ik but this is just fuking unfair and some1 has to stand up and talk about this shit

#21
Ullyr
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china number 1, has more market potential and also historically been big investor into riot other esports league. Country has billions of ppl easy to see why Riot favors them.

#25
Tr1tonz
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lol it is not just esport anymore, they only care about money haha

#26
ButterflyEffect23
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they always did lmao

#31
Sanaki
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It's business. What do we expect?

#33
Tr1tonz
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sure but just feeling unfair when china has so much free slots even when they not so good

#39
SkywardeX
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That's the whole point to develop every region equally by treating them equally

#44
Tr1tonz
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by make vct chamption to vct china champion eh? just feeling unfair for those good teams who can’t get the slots because of free slots giving to china

#46
SkywardeX
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No it's fair cuz china didn't get chance to play in the past and the other regions played those tournaments

#49
Tr1tonz
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??:D they couldn’t play in the past part is just nonsense. How can you think any region should be prioritized treated just because they played lately

#50
simo98
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Because china own riot bro
Have ever u heard company called tencent ?
That's why china wanna try competitive too

#59
Rikkumi
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they dont take GE to franchise if they dont care abt money

#24
Warlordwibz
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Treat everyone equally? That’s outrageous! Where’s the privilege?

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Tr1tonz
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equality between region but do you see that there’s a big prioritized slots for chinese :Đ. China is considered as a region like the other regions and get the same slots while it’s 1 country-region is just unfair.

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kanyeast
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china has a bigger population than eu and americas combined.

#87
GambleNats
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China has 8x the population of those countries, chinas viewership is more than every region combined. shanghai had a few of the biggest stadiums so far and all the tickets sold out in 33 seconds. every single match, every single seat. china reached 1 million concurrent (meaning 1 million people were all online at the same time) playerbase in 7 months after release.

LOL is dominated by 2 single countries, korea and china while every other region is drinking sips. TL took a map off T1 (korea) and was considered an american success, g2 took down TES (china) and it was a huge accomplishment in LOL history.

Theres many things you could say, "china is just a country" aint one

#34
Twentytwo
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That's such a braindead take. That's what they said last year but we ended up with 2 teams from each region in playoffs, so who should be getting extra slots to?

#35
NICEGO
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W

#55
ALoKi007
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You got me in the first half ngl XD

#37
ALoKi007
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At the end of the day, it's all about money bud

#51
Saiki_taha
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  • money in China esports is ridiculous( jdg spent $20 Million on a single league team)
  • huge number of viewers, huge advertisement money
  • helps riot owned by tencent
#53
oo
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this take is so dumb.
every region gets 4 slots because its FAIR

if you favor a region over the others by giving them more slots, you kill the chance for the region with less slots to compete in a more competitive environment

China may not be the best in the whole of Valorant but you'd be surprised how quickly they will catch up and maybe even dominate in a few years from now

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Tr1tonz
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you r chinese right? its too clear to see there’s a big unfair treat for chinese while they get same slots as the others despite of 1 country-region.

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geospliced
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1 country region but region nonetheless. It may seem unfair but given the sheer size of the Chinese esport population it only makes sense.

#54
cloudywolf
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In order for a esports to thrive it needs audience, and to get audience you need equal representation from each region. Like i am from asia and the only team i watch from emea is fnatic, i don't watch any other emea team. It does not matter how strong the competition is if no one watches. Why would riot put millions of dollars in valorant esports if no one watches it. China has a massive viewer base, so they, just like other regions deserve equal spot.

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hesketh2
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Most simple answer: Tencent and theres really not much excuse you could counter with when tackled Mainland conglomerates

its just Tencent, simple.

The other way is everyone also gets 4 for fairness (say, if China never has its own league and bundled into APAC, you have option of either kill SEA just like Valve did with 2016-2017 CS or have China stuck in CrossFire that is a game from 15+ years ago (no, CS is not the majority in China) forever

The long term is that I believe China would be a scary region for the other version of VALORANT that currently is in testing, and its not the one with controller
but as for the current term is simply: Tencent, China as a whole & its Marketing/Business approach

Funny take: Could said the same with things like PCS (idc about my region not playing league), LCS

#66
Tr1tonz
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ik it tho, just talking about the unfair thing. The tilte should be changed to “4 slots to vct champion for china is priority”

#57
Cezka000
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Another kid who doesn't even understand market strategy and business

#60
jimjam789
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Free win tbh

#65
Saiki_taha
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womp womp

#69
selectyouragent
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EU has no enough slots in CS MAJOR even though 17 already, it should be 24

#70
_nakuwul
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wtf do you mean? why shouldn't they ?

#72
Lito
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I like that franchising starts 4/4/4/4 and then each masters win can grant s region more spots, I think its nice we dont enter a new year with old expectations (like putting EG up a game kek)

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Az3
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EMEA got 5 Championship slots last year, 3 of them were eliminated at group stage, and you still believe they are strong and deserve more slots? LMAO

#74
Az3
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As you said, for cs2 Major, how many slots will every region get base on how many team from this region qualify for playoffs. Similarly, in last Championship there are 2 team from China (EDG,BLG) qualify for playoffs as same as other regions, so why do you think China don't deserve 4 slots as other regions do?

#76
Tr1tonz
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now what? china region is weak af and dont deserve 4 slots honestly mtf

#80
I_LOVE_LESS
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china top3 and prx grouped, maybe the worst aged post ever

#77
ALoKi007
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Womp Womp

#78
south_america_best_region
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PRX fan talking, where are them?

#81
Anguibok
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T1 have the same number of slot is perfect

#82
unilarity
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apac 0 team region
and edg going to grand finals
what about china being shit now

#83
localkoolkid
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by this logic EMEA was a really good region in 2023 because FNATIC was good

#84
GambleNats
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apac also had less teams in playoffs

#85
KyLZi
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if drx, geng, and prx all hit at the same time they would crush at lans. their teams are just so inconsistent

#88
unilarity
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well you could say fnc was solo carrying emea 23
thats true

#86
H3ENnZ
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This post aged like milk

#89
colZ
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braindead

#90
Cu55Ku55_______
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lmao

#91
ToastDC
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LMAO 🤭

#92
kaibe8
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L

#93
simo98
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Lmao

#94
4ch1p4p4
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Aged like milk

#95
rexrex
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what happened now

#96
Swarleyyy
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Tbh it's not just op but even few of the streamers/pros said this. What a tight slap to their faces!

#97
itisnoah54
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Suck fucking dick LMAOOO

#98
bobguyhuman
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lol

#99
butterdog_dogwithdabutter
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uh oh

#100
Elso
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LMFAO

#101
zhuzhuzhu
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womp womp

#102
SOURVLRT
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LMAOOO

#103
Bl1th
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Guess who won champs lil bro LMFAOOO

#104
Miquele
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LMAOO

#105
catNmouse
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LMAOOO

#106
Xyarin
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KEKW

#107
DryseNNN
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KangKang 111 kills own you

#108
Pras1mos
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The OP is right, Emea should have 6 slots, to 2 be destroyed by China and 2 by Americas, so is going to be fair.

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