I know riot is trying to help china to get more opportunities to promote but 4 is just too much for a new( kinda weak honestly) region . Look at EMEA where fps esport game is so strong (cs2) , i think they deserves 6 slots and china is 2 or 5 slots for americas and emea, 2 for china is enough imo
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How tf china get 4 slots to champion?
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TM06Nick [#5]Why would you want 1 region to get 6 slots. That's basically rewarding mediocrity as it's an 11 team league so the 5th/6th are average/below average
i just want to watch a high competitive tournament (champion is the biggest tour) and more good team is more fun no? However, china region is not that good to deserve that much slots. This is so unfair. And remember china is a valorant region but it is also only 1 country :Đ
XanXanUk [#14]How did China get their own league and, let's say, India didn't is the better question. And the answer is Tencent
???? are you implying India has better infrastructure and competition for a circuit than CHINA?
XanXanUk [#14]How did China get their own league and, let's say, India didn't is the better question. And the answer is Tencent
blud said india
LeCat [#2]Apac and china have the same number of trophies
ye but just remember how prx destroyed edg :Đ and i’m just comparing china to NA and EMEA tho
LeCat [#2]Apac and china have the same number of trophies
BabyJ and Apac have the same amount of trophies
XanXanUk [#14]How did China get their own league and, let's say, India didn't is the better question. And the answer is Tencent
sorry but india is terrible example for this lol
grenji [#10]Xi Jinping is probably better at Raze than Monyet. They deserve it tbh.
monyet is not good ik but you can’t take one player to represent for one region :Đ. So i can say jingg is just better than any chinese raze that you can find in vct china
Ullyr [#21]china number 1, has more market potential and also historically been big investor into riot other esports league. Country has billions of ppl easy to see why Riot favors them.
lol it is not just esport anymore, they only care about money haha
Tr1tonz [#25]lol it is not just esport anymore, they only care about money haha
they always did lmao
grenji [#10]Xi Jinping is probably better at Raze than Monyet. They deserve it tbh.
i think joe biden better because he has more experience
XanXanUk [#14]How did China get their own league and, let's say, India didn't is the better question. And the answer is Tencent
bro wants revenant esports in champions seoul
Astar [#16]tencent own riot duh
ik but this is just fuking unfair and some1 has to stand up and talk about this shit
Tr1tonz [#25]lol it is not just esport anymore, they only care about money haha
It's business. What do we expect?
Tr1tonz [#18]ye but just remember how prx destroyed edg :Đ and i’m just comparing china to NA and EMEA tho
Glad we are not determining a region slot by trophies then. So how do we actually determine it? China second seed destroyed Americas second seed and their first seed only lost to the eventually grand finalist. And China haven't even had their own league by that point.
Its not like Zeta, TL or Kru were that much more competitive than FPX before they even have their own league
Sanaki [#31]It's business. What do we expect?
sure but just feeling unfair when china has so much free slots even when they not so good
Twentytwo [#34]That's such a braindead take. That's what they said last year but we ended up with 2 teams from each region in playoffs, so who should be getting extra slots to?
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XanXanUk [#14]How did China get their own league and, let's say, India didn't is the better question. And the answer is Tencent
yes Tencent is Riot mom and China has a lot of money
Tr1tonz [#11]i just want to watch a high competitive tournament (champion is the biggest tour) and more good team is more fun no? However, china region is not that good to deserve that much slots. This is so unfair. And remember china is a valorant region but it is also only 1 country :Đ
That will be like CS region problem bro
Other region doesn't get much competitive because they don't have place to learn big competitive.
(Which it's problem like India and oce problem but good thing oce get place in china)
To make fair same as other region the slot will be the same
U know this Valo is small but big at the same time.
It's not easy u know to make 44 partner at the same time learn being same competitive as other region even the game is same release date.
If Prx doesn't get into international they will be never learn eu or na style and make new style as benkai said in interview.
Tr1tonz [#33]sure but just feeling unfair when china has so much free slots even when they not so good
That's the whole point to develop every region equally by treating them equally
LeCat [#32]Glad we are not determining a region slot by trophies then. So how do we actually determine it? China second seed destroyed Americas second seed and their first seed only lost to the eventually grand finalist. And China haven't even had their own league by that point.
Its not like Zeta, TL or Kru were that much more competitive than FPX before they even have their own league
agree but i still think emea deserves more slots and china get less (there’re many good players and fps team in emea). Btw edg also lost to loud tho, they met blg in lower breaket in addition.
simo98 [#38]That will be like CS region problem bro
Other region doesn't get much competitive because they don't have place to learn big competitive.
(Which it's problem like India and oce problem but good thing oce get place in china)
To make fair same as other region the slot will be the same
U know this Valo is small but big at the same time.
It's not easy u know to make 44 partner at the same time learn being same competitive as other region even the game is same release date.
If Prx doesn't get into international they will be never learn eu or na style and make new style as benkai said in interview.
sure that riot is doing good with making the balance between regions and valve not really care about asia in CS. But you have to agree with me that watching a cs tournament is much better experience and more competitive .After all, china is still a country, vct champion is an international tour that for players from around the world compete, not the “VCT china champion”.
Tr1tonz [#11]i just want to watch a high competitive tournament (champion is the biggest tour) and more good team is more fun no? However, china region is not that good to deserve that much slots. This is so unfair. And remember china is a valorant region but it is also only 1 country :Đ
"i just want to watch a high competitive tournament"
Also are u the one who got Leo interview?
Tr1tonz [#41]sure that riot is doing good with making the balance between regions and valve not really care about asia in CS. But you have to agree with me that watching a cs tournament is much better experience and more competitive .After all, china is still a country, vct champion is an international tour that for players from around the world compete, not the “VCT china champion”.
Nope I never watch CS tournament since my region doesn't get cover and xccurate stoped competitive.
I also stoped playing the game 2022 cheater more a problem and I never enjoy the game anymore
SkywardeX [#39]That's the whole point to develop every region equally by treating them equally
by make vct chamption to vct china champion eh? just feeling unfair for those good teams who can’t get the slots because of free slots giving to china
Tr1tonz [#40]agree but i still think emea deserves more slots and china get less (there’re many good players and fps team in emea). Btw edg also lost to loud tho, they met blg in lower breaket in addition.
EMea had 2/5 teams going out of the group stage last champion, China had 2/3. Out of the 5 other EMEA team which of then are a "good" team that deserves to be in Champions? KC? KOI?
There's a reason why all the LCQ team, even the fabled Navi failed to make it through groups. And its because even now there's a parity among the Top teams of the region. Even before the Chinese league is a thing.
Tr1tonz [#44]by make vct chamption to vct china champion eh? just feeling unfair for those good teams who can’t get the slots because of free slots giving to china
No it's fair cuz china didn't get chance to play in the past and the other regions played those tournaments
Warlordwibz [#24]Treat everyone equally? That’s outrageous! Where’s the privilege?
equality between region but do you see that there’s a big prioritized slots for chinese :Đ. China is considered as a region like the other regions and get the same slots while it’s 1 country-region is just unfair.
Tr1tonz [#41]sure that riot is doing good with making the balance between regions and valve not really care about asia in CS. But you have to agree with me that watching a cs tournament is much better experience and more competitive .After all, china is still a country, vct champion is an international tour that for players from around the world compete, not the “VCT china champion”.
if cs tried to include other regions and develope cs in pacific/china i promise you CS Majors would easily break twitch and streaming records to the point where no one can compete vs them lol while still maintaining the competetiveness because pacific teams might be considered "dark horse teams" and we'll see some upsets that'll break the internet
SkywardeX [#46]No it's fair cuz china didn't get chance to play in the past and the other regions played those tournaments
??:D they couldn’t play in the past part is just nonsense. How can you think any region should be prioritized treated just because they played lately
Tr1tonz [#49]??:D they couldn’t play in the past part is just nonsense. How can you think any region should be prioritized treated just because they played lately
Because china own riot bro
Have ever u heard company called tencent ?
That's why china wanna try competitive too
simo98 [#43]Nope I never watch CS tournament since my region doesn't get cover and xccurate stoped competitive.
I also stoped playing the game 2022 cheater more a problem and I never enjoy the game anymore
yup just talking about the esport aspect in cs bro
this take is so dumb.
every region gets 4 slots because its FAIR
if you favor a region over the others by giving them more slots, you kill the chance for the region with less slots to compete in a more competitive environment
China may not be the best in the whole of Valorant but you'd be surprised how quickly they will catch up and maybe even dominate in a few years from now
In order for a esports to thrive it needs audience, and to get audience you need equal representation from each region. Like i am from asia and the only team i watch from emea is fnatic, i don't watch any other emea team. It does not matter how strong the competition is if no one watches. Why would riot put millions of dollars in valorant esports if no one watches it. China has a massive viewer base, so they, just like other regions deserve equal spot.
Twentytwo [#34]That's such a braindead take. That's what they said last year but we ended up with 2 teams from each region in playoffs, so who should be getting extra slots to?
You got me in the first half ngl XD
Most simple answer: Tencent and theres really not much excuse you could counter with when tackled Mainland conglomerates
its just Tencent, simple.
The other way is everyone also gets 4 for fairness (say, if China never has its own league and bundled into APAC, you have option of either kill SEA just like Valve did with 2016-2017 CS or have China stuck in CrossFire that is a game from 15+ years ago (no, CS is not the majority in China) forever
The long term is that I believe China would be a scary region for the other version of VALORANT that currently is in testing, and its not the one with controller
but as for the current term is simply: Tencent, China as a whole & its Marketing/Business approach
Funny take: Could said the same with things like PCS (idc about my region not playing league), LCS
blx [#48]if cs tried to include other regions and develope cs in pacific/china i promise you CS Majors would easily break twitch and streaming records to the point where no one can compete vs them lol while still maintaining the competetiveness because pacific teams might be considered "dark horse teams" and we'll see some upsets that'll break the internet
yes, so sad that valve didn’t do that
Tr1tonz [#25]lol it is not just esport anymore, they only care about money haha
they dont take GE to franchise if they dont care abt money
Tr1tonz [#52]yup just talking about the esport aspect in cs bro
"But you have to agree with me that watching a cs tournament is much better experience"
So I shouldn't agree
oo [#53]this take is so dumb.
every region gets 4 slots because its FAIRif you favor a region over the others by giving them more slots, you kill the chance for the region with less slots to compete in a more competitive environment
China may not be the best in the whole of Valorant but you'd be surprised how quickly they will catch up and maybe even dominate in a few years from now
you r chinese right? its too clear to see there’s a big unfair treat for chinese while they get same slots as the others despite of 1 country-region.
grenji [#15]???? are you implying India has better infrastructure and competition for a circuit than CHINA?
Convergence production goes hard
LeCat [#45]EMea had 2/5 teams going out of the group stage last champion, China had 2/3. Out of the 5 other EMEA team which of then are a "good" team that deserves to be in Champions? KC? KOI?
There's a reason why all the LCQ team, even the fabled Navi failed to make it through groups. And its because even now there's a parity among the Top teams of the region. Even before the Chinese league is a thing.
nah it’s too obvious that this is a completely priority for chinese
hesketh2 [#56]Most simple answer: Tencent and theres really not much excuse you could counter with when tackled Mainland conglomerates
its just Tencent, simple.
The other way is everyone also gets 4 for fairness (say, if China never has its own league and bundled into APAC, you have option of either kill SEA just like Valve did with 2016-2017 CS or have China stuck in CrossFire that is a game from 15+ years ago (no, CS is not the majority in China) forever
The long term is that I believe China would be a scary region for the other version of VALORANT that currently is in testing, and its not the one with controller
but as for the current term is simply: Tencent, China as a whole & its Marketing/Business approachFunny take: Could said the same with things like PCS (idc about my region not playing league), LCS
ik it tho, just talking about the unfair thing. The tilte should be changed to “4 slots to vct champion for china is priority”
simo98 [#61]"But you have to agree with me that watching a cs tournament is much better experience"
So I shouldn't agree
ok
Tr1tonz [#47]equality between region but do you see that there’s a big prioritized slots for chinese :Đ. China is considered as a region like the other regions and get the same slots while it’s 1 country-region is just unfair.
china has a bigger population than eu and americas combined.
Az3 [#73]EMEA got 5 Championship slots last year, 3 of them were eliminated at group stage, and you still believe they are strong and deserve more slots? LMAO
As you said, for cs2 Major, how many slots will every region get base on how many team from this region qualify for playoffs. Similarly, in last Championship there are 2 team from China (EDG,BLG) qualify for playoffs as same as other regions, so why do you think China don't deserve 4 slots as other regions do?
Tr1tonz [#62]you r chinese right? its too clear to see there’s a big unfair treat for chinese while they get same slots as the others despite of 1 country-region.
1 country region but region nonetheless. It may seem unfair but given the sheer size of the Chinese esport population it only makes sense.
Az3 [#74]As you said, for cs2 Major, how many slots will every region get base on how many team from this region qualify for playoffs. Similarly, in last Championship there are 2 team from China (EDG,BLG) qualify for playoffs as same as other regions, so why do you think China don't deserve 4 slots as other regions do?
now what? china region is weak af and dont deserve 4 slots honestly mtf
Tr1tonz [#76]now what? china region is weak af and dont deserve 4 slots honestly mtf
china top3 and prx grouped, maybe the worst aged post ever
unilarity [#82]apac 0 team region
and edg going to grand finals
what about china being shit now
by this logic EMEA was a really good region in 2023 because FNATIC was good
localkoolkid [#83]by this logic EMEA was a really good region in 2023 because FNATIC was good
apac also had less teams in playoffs
GambleNats [#84]apac also had less teams in playoffs
if drx, geng, and prx all hit at the same time they would crush at lans. their teams are just so inconsistent
Tr1tonz [#47]equality between region but do you see that there’s a big prioritized slots for chinese :Đ. China is considered as a region like the other regions and get the same slots while it’s 1 country-region is just unfair.
China has 8x the population of those countries, chinas viewership is more than every region combined. shanghai had a few of the biggest stadiums so far and all the tickets sold out in 33 seconds. every single match, every single seat. china reached 1 million concurrent (meaning 1 million people were all online at the same time) playerbase in 7 months after release.
LOL is dominated by 2 single countries, korea and china while every other region is drinking sips. TL took a map off T1 (korea) and was considered an american success, g2 took down TES (china) and it was a huge accomplishment in LOL history.
Theres many things you could say, "china is just a country" aint one
localkoolkid [#83]by this logic EMEA was a really good region in 2023 because FNATIC was good
well you could say fnc was solo carrying emea 23
thats true
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