Who are the biggest frauds of VCT?

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AstroGalaxy

Try not to bait and try not to be rude

(I just realized im cultivating hate but fuck it)

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nobody___100

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saying no bait while asking for bait

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AstroGalaxy

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:troll emoji

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Hynix

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i genuinely think that GENG's run was a fluke, not because they shouldn't have won but because all the other teams were so weak.

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zombzino

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Flair

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friendly fire 💀

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dort

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if any run was a fluke it was SEN in madrid. all dogshit teams competing

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cloudberry

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LOUD catching strays on the daily lately

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JustHunterM8

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At least with Sens win they actually beat the other best team in the world whereas in Shanghai it was proven that Sen and GenG still hadn't been usurped in terms of level of play.
Madrid had 2 S tier teams, Shanghai only had 1.
Either way both tourneys were Mickey mouse asf, probably competing with Tokyo as most Mickey mouse

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BairyHalls

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TH in shanghai was not a team then

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JustHunterM8

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That's not a fluke it's called a Minnie Mouse tourney (yes Minnie mouse, the Mickey mouse was Madrid)

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Cu55Ku55_______

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Flair 💀

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Aayan

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bait for baiters
interesting

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AstroGalaxy

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I put it in my post to make myself feel better

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dort

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miniboo
patitek
zekken
zellsis
sacy
boaster

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AstroGalaxy

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trashies
Coctor
y0y
semon1
m00v0rd
F0nis

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nobody___100

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tf is a m00v0rd

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AstroGalaxy

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marved

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JustHunterM8

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Where'd the extra r come from

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AstroGalaxy

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idk I wasnt thinking when I wrote the name

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kabingo

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respect for not putting s0m in there

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Divine_Thunder

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saying zekken, zellsis and sacy after these performance is wild

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CookieMania

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I do think winning a masters automatically disqualifies them from being a fraud.

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KClaw

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Talon team except primmie , they fluked their way to champs as team secret shit themselves for one more time in playoffs

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nihso

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probably s0m and fns

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OnePunchZero

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I think frauds is the wrong word here, but the biggest disappointment was 100% NRG. On Paper, probably the best roaster, but we all know how that ended.

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JustHunterM8

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You can't just say they're the best because on paper they have the best players.
If I said I assembled 5 Aspas's would you say that's the best team in the world? Ofc not cause roles come into play and NRG from the beginning had lacked half the roles they needed in terms of personalities AND agent comp.
Best on paper is a team with great players in every role but has also completed every requirement. Igl, glue guy, clutch flex, reliable smokes, and that one random every team has, and they all need to be good vibes (unlike a certain coctor)
I said this over and over but y'all just kept glazing

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jalepnis

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on paper they did have the best roster even when considering roles. crashies was a top 2 initiator in NA, victor was a top 2 flex in NA, demon1 was the best jett in the world. marved was top 2 controller in 2022. only thing that was questionable was ethans igling which ultimately let down the team. so yeah nrg on paper had the best roster competing with fnatic 2023s roster

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GambleNats

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LIke what? to audience? to orgs? indiviudals or teams?

For orgs:
soulcas is a good shout, always a scrim demon never good in a real game for orgs
Yay is another one, top player in 2022 but never put up numbers since
scream making any team believe in his igl ability was fraudulant
Trophy wins:
Optic (reyk) visa issues
Fnatic (lock) mickey mouse tournament
Ascend (champs) won champs, did nothing after/before
For Audience:
NRG 2024 roster; "superteam" couldnt make a single playoff
M3C 2022 roster; back to back grandfinalist, couldnt make an international event
SEN 2022-2023 roster; believed to be a top team but didnt make an international event
TL 2023 roster; frauds in lock//in. won emea just to shit the bed in champs and tokyo

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LULquid

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GambleNats

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such a dogshit org

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JustHunterM8

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I completely forgot that Sen absolutely shit the bed in the beginning of 2022 and barely played like a tier 2 team. End of year 2022 tho could've gone places if they had the time istg, I really wish shroud stayed, they way he played was actually super unique and disciplined

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PP12123213123

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G2 2024
The guard 2023
The guard 2022

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JustHunterM8

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They never win when it matters most

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catNmouse

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Idk bro, them winning against m80 and gifting you guys johnqt alongside joining vct americas was a pretty important win, but if we’re talking about this year then yeah

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H3ENnZ

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SEN 2023
100T 2023
TL Tokyo/ Champs/2024
NAVI 2023/2024

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AstroGalaxy

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fire list

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sentinelmain377

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navi stage 2 2024

2023 was pretty good if u reflect on it

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H3ENnZ

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They barely made the LAN for that year

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sentinelmain377

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NAVI top 4 LOCK//IN, fell off in Tokyo, looked like the 5th-7th best team of Champs despite getting 9th-12th since NAVI had extremely close matches to DRX and LOUD

#8 overall team of the year - so they are in my top 10 teams of each year list forever:
https://www.vlr.gg/355247/top-10-teams-of-every-year/

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Azzelastia

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FRAUDNATIC 2023 (BIGGEST FLUKE OF ALL TIME)
Something (BIGGEST PAYCHECK STEALER OF ALL TIME)
Flukeretics 2023 Fluke run and people think they are good
Pathetic (One of the biggest Paycheck stealer)
NAVI full of frauds overhyped by memea fans

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AstroGalaxy

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another fire list

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H3ENnZ

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I dont get it how is two time trophy winner, EMEA 2nd place, Champs 4th place a fraud
And how are heretics 2023 on this list they were on the bottom of the scoreboard constantly and they were never a super team

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JustHunterM8

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Is pathetic meant to be patitek? ☠️

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Botroretro

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Tenz
Loud 2022
Zombs
Dimasick

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AstroGalaxy

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flair

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Botroretro

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flair

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Cu55Ku55_______

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Biggest frauds for each region:

Americas: LOUD 2024
EMEA: KC 2024
Pacific: TS 2023
CN: DRG (their downfall needs to be studied)

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H3ENnZ

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FPX ever winning the CN trophy is a bigger cope

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symbols07

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ik i might seem like a very big hater, but honestly derrek.

like i dont know how he survived that long in tier 1. his one lcq performance carried him to places

now talking about current players, its emil (not a player, but a coach). a genuine fraud

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nihso

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As a SEN fan, that LCQ performance was either him on 500mg of crack or him rage hacking.

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sentinelmain377

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w

that lcq run by derrek was INSANE

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PrincePuma01

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I'mma be unhinged it's everyone on VLR.
Everything is a fluke to someone.
No one will truly be a 'deserving' winner, someone will always be a <Insert quality> Merchant

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7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao

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Biggest VCT frauds of each year:
2021: team silver
2022: team silver
2023: team silver
2024: team silver
2025: team silver

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munestar

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this year imo VIT and TLN, both qualified because their opponents in single elim fumbled bad and were mostly carried by a few players (primmie and sayf/trexx)