Aspas is NOT the GOAT

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Revlo

https://x.com/willminder/status/1744843988673184187
This list shows the best international tourney performances, and aspas is nowhere to be found. We cannot realistically call him the GOAT until he has a GOAT like performance on the international scene, which is why, in my opinion, yay and tenz clear. For now, he is a regular season merchant and until he can make this list as the best player on his team, he is NOT the GOAT.

edit: Maybe regular season merchant is too harsh but I would like to see a goat like performance from him in the international scene.

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cove

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jawn

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look at my glorious king mako

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diswaco

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that's what i been saying.

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jawn

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3 controller performances in the list and he has 2 of them lol

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goat controller, criminal that he doesn't have a trophy

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jawn

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shanghai is his tournament

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Al-Mawsil

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his tournament but not his win unfortunately

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cartixuzi

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alfajer's 1.31 and leo's 1.29 in a 2023 major is lowkey insane, too bad they have boaster xd

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H0r0sha

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and Chronicle's 1.21 T_T

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The_Cleg

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"but they have boaster XD" as if his rating (since we are talking about that) is not very well above average between IGLs (and even top class IGLs)

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Coures

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nrg flair talking

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Nachtel

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Regular season merchant who won champs

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Revlo

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he was bottom performance in the finals on Loud so yes.

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Biruley77

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yeah bro, kills ≠ everything lol if you watched what he did to yay on that breeze you know he is the goat. he literally SAVED Loud

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kskm

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as fns said aspas always been the second best every year which is how he keeps that spot

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cos loud has cauanzin and less too

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yaiima0

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Yay is the real goat. On there 3 times…

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Al-Mawsil

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yay the goat if he comes back from this year

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:3

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SmartPerson

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still the goat

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juugobr_

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It's cuz he hasnt peaked yet. He is just growing better every year while tenz and yay peaked too early and one had to change roles and the latter had the biggest fall off in Valorant

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😂 all the other guys have had downfalls , bro's at the top every year , that's what a goat is ! not someone who has had crazy peak

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Boatify

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dude is scrolling back to 3 month old tweets to cope. Aspas might not be on that list but you can't watch his games and logically say that he isn't one of the best players to ever touch the game. look beyond numbers bro use your brain

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Revlo

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there is a difference between being the best and being the GOAT, sure call him the best as of this current season, but that does not mean he is the GOAT.

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Average_NA_fan

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yeah the goat is cuck1 the sentinel jett who can't even entry

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Revlo

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where did I say that dumbass?

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Average_NA_fan

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bro demon1 is dogshit aspas is the goat and he diffed cuck1 so hard he should go back to russia and retire

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Revlo

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whatever you say dumbass. wont change the fact aspas is a regular season merchant

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Average_NA_fan

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the only fact I see is cuck1 -7 against the goat

https://www.vlr.gg/314637/nrg-esports-vs-leviat-n-champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-1-w3/?tab=performance

blud only killed the goat once (and prob with team support) 😭😭

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Revlo

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the only fact is you're retarded and arguing against something Im not even claiming

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Average_NA_fan

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I didnt say you claimed it I'm just saying aspas owns cuck1

he diffed cuck1 so hard it was pure domination

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rare W

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this game doesnt have a goat its been out for like 3 years

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lets be honest bro loud never played for aspas, they always played together making everyone shine instead of having peak performers thats why loud doesnt have much stat merchants in there even tho they always did top 3 performances internationally since 2022, now that he is on lev and everyone is playing for him he´ll boost on stats like crazy.

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The best take

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GhostKing44

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true, but you cant say that fnc player for alfa or leo or chronicle, or say drx played for mako, and they are still all up there

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koromast

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wait you genuinely think drx doesnt play for mako and fnc doesnt play for alfa?

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Al-Mawsil

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bro they play for derke if they didnt he would be joining boaster with one kill

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koromast

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its the exact opposite derke dashes and dies in site all the attack rounds getting as much kills as he can while alfajer flanks

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Al-Mawsil

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pls no

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Aspas is the goat because he was ALWAYS among the best, tenz, demon, yay, they had a peak in one season and then declined, but the aspas is different, he was always among the best in the world if not the best, cry as much If you want your statistics are based on a tournament and not on history. The goat

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Revlo

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longetivity matters sure, but accomplishments with performance matters more, we really gonna call lebron the goat cause he had a greater longetivity than jordan?

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little_cheese

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Yes, one more point I wanted to comment on, Lebron is the best because he plays nowadays where the competitiveness is much greater and Jordan stood out where his opponents didn't have the same level as they do nowadays.

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Revlo

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thats a valid point but for me its not the same because a lot of the pros now were still playing as pros in the early stages of valorant.

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little_cheese

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Opinions... I think that at that time the competitiveness was still emerging, we didn't have most of the players we have today although they were all professionals.

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he is going to own shangai

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uwukitten

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mako and sayf the only two on that list without a trophy 😔

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cove harbor cgrs boo

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The thing about aspas is consistency. Ever since he came into pro play he was always among the people in the peak. And while others fell off, he stayed in form.

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VGG

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Aspas highest placement was 5th place at a master/champion event

-https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/926/valorant-champions-tour-stage-1-masters-reykjav-k -5th
-https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1014/valorant-champions-tour-stage-2-masters-copenhagen -19th
-https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1015/valorant-champions-2022 -31th
-https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1188/champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo -26th

-https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1494/champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo -24th
-https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1657/valorant-champions-2023 -7th

sorry but aspas only has two placements in the top 10 the other are all 19-26+
he was is no point the 2th best player ever
so no idea where the aspas was carring loud is coming from

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Average_NA_fan

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he never carried loud but this is also a braindead comparison

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BulkyLettuce

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yes he is very overrated for some reason people just love getting on their knees

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hunkkz

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The same for NRG

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destroylonely

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everyone on that list had a downfall

not aspas

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south_america_best_region

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Mako downfall? hell nah
also Demon1 is NOT in a downfall, he only has external Game problems.

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eszett

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where was MaKo in 2023?
Demon1 having external problems is not aspas's fault, a downfall is a downfall

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Mako was at every international tournament, placed top 6 champs, top 2 in pacific, won pacific MVP, top 4 Lock-in with. 1.23 rating, which is the 2nd highest a controller has ever been rated in a international tournament. Only MaKo can have a year as good as that and it would be called a down year, the standard is higher for him

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eszett

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tbf is easier to keep a higher rating when you don't even play more than 3 games in a championship

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KyLZi

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I rate Ws more than boring 🤓 stats. I think Aspas or Chronicle are the closest to goat status atm.

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Goat1

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localkoolkid

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Nah it's Ange1 brother

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hunkkz

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Still The goat.

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BulkyLettuce

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Yes he is very overrated. Not even close to best player in the world. He will disappear when it matters most

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you guys truly don't learn right? a month ago this forum was saying that demon1 clears aspas and that was for sure, but after LEV x NRG Aspas was always better, now you guys cope with a "Best rating in international events" just wait that will happen too, if he can do those numbers in the best league in the world he will do that in the masters too.

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akami

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AND DO YOU THINK TENZ IS GOAT? LMAO inflated stats because he farmed in the first international when everyone sucked

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akami

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CHILL UNTIL THEY SEE MY BOY ASPAS 1.40 RATING MASTER SHANGHAI AND WINNING