somebody's mad

i swear one of the fnatic players said it was long covid no?

forgot to take the meds i see

GOAT SHIT

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damn that opens up a lot of options for apeks no?

source?

we all heard you the first time and wish we didn't

rb staying
idk about zest

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LETS FUCKING GO

they need to hate the game not the player

based

not to mention miniboo's neon was touted to be best itw by some as well?

mako >>>

very good scan init but stax and zest have similar peaks and are more consistent i feel. lakia has value in secondary calling, but stax is an ex-igl and likely provides much of the same insights/midrounding

yeah i just have drx bias LMAO meteor is definitely best korean sentinel rn

we'll see ig! i def think francis/ivy are promising but i'm going to withhold judgement till i see them play in t1. i hope they prove me wrong though fs. and yeah like i said in another comment, meteor is def best sentinel rn but i'm biased for buzz b/c of drx

meteor sure, which is why i said buzz/meteor. flashback good, but buzz's kj was disgusting at masters tokyo. meteor def has the strongest argument tho. as for francis ivy, neither are t1 proven? stax and zest are both insane and have proven themselves in t1 year after year. nothing zest could really do on bleed as well, it was doomed from the start

who would you have instead

t3xture duelist
mako smokes
stax/zest initiator
munchkin igl
buzz/meteor sentinel

cooks no? if they need scan/flash on the same map, then stax fade and munchkin kayo works. on double controller, you have munchkin on viper and stax on skye.

1/10 now!

saya alr locked in no?

blud thinks he's the zeta manager

0/8

so fat he needed his own line

why are you spelling out a 2 man site hold like some kind of death sentence? obv some kind of vision strikers level execute would fuck them but in that case you'd likely just anti them and play for retake anyhow no?

more of a site design issue no? you're gonna get run down on A site no matter what lol

facts

agreed, def niche but excels in that niche

fair point but a 2-1-2 setup negates most of these issues as well
and what about my other points? why does bang need to be on viper?

explain logic
why is first comp bad? lots of teams forego sentinels on icebox in favor of playing viper like a psuedo sentinel
bang plays omen a lot and johnqt plays viper a lot - like I just said, viper is more of a psuedo senti so johnqt roles are fine
"zellsis needs to debut a new agent like kayo" you have zero ball knowledge what the fuck it's literally his most played agent

how come? even postnerf 2024, she was picked a decent amount esp on icebox

icebox for example, they could run a couple comps
one being:
zekken jett
n4rrate sova
bang omen
johnqt viper
zellsis kayo

or if you want a sentinel, forgo flash initators and rely on omen blind with a comp like
zekken jett
n4rrate sova
bang omen
johnqt viper
zellsis kj

what?
narrate scan init
zekken duelist
zellsis flash init/flex

sen hiko and scream

no it's clearly asuna and magnum are you blind

no they're signing asuna and magnum

i just busted

holy fuck wait this would be peak cinema

anything to get stax off igl and let him frag out honestly

would feed families

why necro

your point?

https://i.imgur.com/CtLMlxo.png are you blind?

yap yap yap
i just went and checked temet's neon tracker and holy FUCK you are just yapping aren't you? "hardstuck bottom of the barrel radiant" when he had ONE bad act in ep8a3 and peaked #219/#139 even before the buffs rolled out. last act, he placed #126 - nowhere near a significant increase from 139. you're cherrypicking inconsistencies in acts and chalking it up to an agent change.

when did i ever say anything about high pickrate ??? for the last fucking time - players who are skilled enough to take advantage of a broken character will do so, and go up in rank. now, is it fair to say that they're playing above their skill level? do you think jinggg performs nearly as well on any other agent as he does on raze or reyna in pro play? probably not. does that make him boosted by raze? no, not at all, it just makes him a onetrick. i don't understand where you're trying to go with this - i'm not making any comments about how neon is overtuned - but you can't just say that she "allows people to play above their skill level", because that's not how game balancing works.

I give an anecdote about a silver -> you say that's not enough because it's only one case->

what do you want me to say here - "oh yeah go ahead ignore the fundamentals of statistics and generalize that anecdote to every neon player"????? like how mentally inept can you possibly be?

temet being the face of neon is exactly why your point is incorrect LMFAO
the buff that neon received was infinitely more valuable to temet and other high level neon players than literally EVERY other neon player out there, because of their understanding of the agent and ability to hit high elo even without those buffs, similar to yasuo/kat/zed players in league. the average silver neon player runs around like a headless chicken and will likely use that second dash to run straight into a point blank crosshair.

again - you can't extrapolate your anecdote to all silvers. what is so hard about this? as for temet, it's like a yasuo main in league. there's a clip of riot august talking about this, where they keep mechanically demanding champions like yasuo, katarina and zed and the like lower winrate on purpose - because the onetricks will make them stupid busted given any substantial buff. that's all that happened to temet, and doesn't remotely prove your point.

wow main agent gets buffed --> you play better
was the buff to neon substantial? yes. will it allow a silver 1 to cook diamond lobbies? no.