zellsis this pancada that

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kitsuneHP

can yall just fucking shut up omg. zellsis deserves the spot. pancada wasnt there, zellsis stepped in and worked better with the team. if yall still say pancada in zellsis out you just don't know how sports work. i want to see pancada play too but goddamn man just wait fo the season to start to see if what theyre doing is good or nah

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Facts right here

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pancada mechanics >> zellsis mechanics
pancada gamesens >>>> zellsis gamesense
pancada aim >> zellsis aim
pancada experience >>>> zellsis experience
zellsis communication >>>>>> pancada communication
zellsis english >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pancada english

pancada clears zellsis

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don't care. pancada washed. marved mako clears

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How is he washed? He was off role on a team without an igl last year

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He had an IGL for the first half of the year and was mid

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he wasnt playing at his role, hes the best controller itw and was put to play as a sentinel🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

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ok? Players change roles all the time that doesnt make it any less his fault, Sentinel is such a simple role its by far the easiest in the game to play and learn. So many players move roles and are successful on their new role if someone isnt successful on that role its their fault

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dude youre iron 3

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Yistyy

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Terrible take. Players have natural affinities to certain roles. You can't just expect them to adapt and then call them bad when they don't live up to your absurd expectations.

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B1itz

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no one has natural affinities to a certain role lmfao thats absurd. You really think people are born with what Valorant role they can play built into their DNA? No bruh its all learned, players learn these roles from playing them and watching other people playing them. MaKo(Top 3 controller player itw) started as a duelist player and learned that role. If a player fails to adapt to their circumstances thats on them. pANcada agreed to switch roles and it didnt work he has to take responsibility for that

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Yistyy

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Who brought up DNA dawg 😭

It ain't even worth debating with some of you guys

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hello loud fan. from ur logic, tuyz shouldn't be doing great in controller and we can never blame him because he was not a controller player. even alfa/less wasn't a sentinel player. this role logic is straight up ass. sentinel was dogass last season and it was everyone's fault. everyone was bad. but u small brain Brazilian won't agree because u have to defend ur shiny knight, pancada.

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omfg why the most of you american people are dumb, you guys dont even know what a country is. when i said pancada is better and its not his fault to having a bad performance playing sentinel i meant to say that theres no sense swap the role of the best player in the world at that moment. is it confusing? idk and if i did a english mistake idk and i dont care aswell im still learning this shit

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pessi_41

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so who was going to play sentinel on that team? after dephh left. I am curious

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It ain't even worth debating with some of you guys

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answer pessi_41's question first lol

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pessi_41

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lmao dude. you couldn't reply that simple question

continue thread →

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Yistyy

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He only became mid after the role swap. Before that he was winning insane clutches and people said "my god why he doesn't miss a shot"

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kitsuneHP

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absolutely agree. but im trusting that kaplan and drew know what theyre doing and keeping zellsis is just for the team. lessee

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I agree pancada is individually better than zellsis but this is a “team” game sen performed better with zellsis in and the team agrees they were missing a guy like zellsis to keep the vibes up and keep them in check. Sen already has really good individual talent, its not like they were missing more firepower. Don’t get me wrong this sucks for pancada I really wanted to see him succeed with Sen and I’ll definitely miss him on the team but at the end of a day u have to do what’s better for the team.

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really good individual talent? who? zekken?????? sacy?????? tenz????????????????🤣🤣🤣

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kitsuneHP

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zekken and tenz both better fraggers than pancada

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mzto

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sure, pancada never played as a duelist (at tier 1) to be a beast fragging.

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kitsuneHP

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neither does he have the ability to raw frag like that

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for sure he has the ability to be a top fragger and a better fragger than zekken and tenz, firstly tenz is washed, what a dumb guy. secondly zekken never won anything. thirdly pancada is just better. accept it

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DdoggyVII

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Yes lol zekken is a crack and can frag out tenz has insane mechanics and we all know what he’s capable of doing

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mzto

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It ain't even worth debating with some of you guys

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Mad cuz can’t accept fax

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W

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well the team doesn't need more aim lol,they needed more comms

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pancada is brazilian zeek and never deserved a spot on SEN in the first place

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TheAceGamer30

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He should have been in tier 2 imo

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smartest acegamer take

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I think he’s overrated ngl he ain’t that good

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sen dont deserve pancada actually

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yeah cus the team is worse with him

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SmartPerson

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exactly, they have no reasons to put a world champions on bench lmao he could be playing in a better team rn

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TheAceGamer30

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No team wants that guy 😂

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no one wants you

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tenz out pancada in

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TheAceGamer30

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Holy fuck most braindead comment ever

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Let Pancada go honestly. Sen has something great and clearly having pancada on the bench is a waste of talent for Americas. Even if he doesn't play tier 1 (he should tho), letting him compete with any team during 2024 is what's going to keep his career fresh and active.

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He's free to go and any team is free to buy him. This isn't charity and no one should expect to get a player who's under contract for free. Unless pancada himself says he wants out and sen doesn't want go negotiate his buyout there's no point in petitioning for pancada to be "let out".

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https://www.vlr.gg/post/3116976/your-team-is-overrated-and-bad

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I don't understand why everyone is so hyped about Sentinels. I think that Sentinels is overrated and is going to flop during the season.

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TheAceGamer30

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Stfu drx fan

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Pancada is trash

come back Pancada please