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crunchers

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pain

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NU_Peri

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Sadge but the move was needed

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Sirius_10

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true

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SNG

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i bet they're gonna try and find a new duelist lmaooo

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lmaoooo

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wind_vlr

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SMH
Drone was the 2nd last player that needed to be dropped

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i wouldn't be opposed to bringing cutler back temporarily on sova, he was serviceable as a sova. shit on astra, but decent on sova.

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thebrownlegend

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pls no respectfully

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WitLitning

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only temporarily lol

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jjj1

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bro u are reported for sabotaging

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connorwalsh

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Karen, stop trying to make Cutler happen, it’s not going to happen

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WitLitning

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go check my comment history you random dumbass, i was calling to remove cutler before anyone else. it was the right move. but if we can’t find a sova before the next qualifier in like, a week, then yeah i wouldn’t be opposed to letting cutler play for just that event and never again. now fuck off you clueless heffer

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Critical would bang

#31

ToastByToast

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i see what you did there

#113

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*critical would bang Bang

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Flickzz

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may be they can try cOm

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Skoluh

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So stupid man

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It is more than okay. Sometimes a change is needed. Even if they replace drone with someone else, it won't mean that they will be immediately the best of the best. He has a tremendous potential to shine on another team.

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Mbappe

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Maybe sign Brax

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Brax is literally on T1, it hasnt even been 2 weeks since he joined

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MadnessMedia

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I think the guy was joking.

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hes so lucky he got paid for so long for doing literally NOTHING! now he can join the squirtle squad.

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drone is really good but maybe this change can make TSM better time will tell

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V19

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I got no hope left man. This entire year for them has been hope and disappointment

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gandun

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Sadge

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LouBag

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Say no to the cheater.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MxMl6U7q6sU&feature=youtu.be

Say yes to LeviathanAG

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built by cheaters

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dude all you need in valorant is a hack that is not detected. the rest is easy with agents like sova, kay/o, skye. you are talking about a game with hacks in it anyway!

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Shail

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LOL, should've read your name before I read what you wrote.

#19

mumenrydr

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Levi who lmao

Sign my boi virtyy

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virty as sova?

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ARVNval23

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TSM FTX Sinatraa?

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MacManny

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Are people kidding when they say this?

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We must assume so

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lol hes banned for 2 more months and honestly wouldnt be much of an upgrade seeing as he hasnt played high level scrims in ~ 6 months.

(this is definetely getting downvoted by sinatraas cult)

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6 months are nothing to alpha sinatraa

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You’re more getting downvoted because it’s a bad take. He’s one of the best players in NA, he would literally make any team better in NA (Even if he was a 6th player on SEN) Get him scrimming a month before he comes back and the rust would be off.

Now if you want to say TSM shouldn’t make the move because the massive baggage that comes with Sinatraa, sure that’s understandable. But to say talent wise it’s not a upgrade is just dumb.

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redlotus

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hes banned lmfao tsm trying to make it to berlin

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Beforemath

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Lmao, are there people out there that actually think that’s possible?

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array

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When hes unbanned, why not? I doubt tsm's problem can be solved by switching drone with some other similar level player so in a few months they will likely want to change something else

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kapteN

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“Why not?”

Cause of the massive sponsor backlash teams will have from signing sinatraa. Doubt a top level team will want to touch him for years.

Just look at kNg in CSGO. Didn’t get signed to a top team for ages cause of something that was much less bad than the whole sinatraa case.

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These changes are insanely inconsistent. Their goals are changing with every drop, it's hella concerning. Not disagreeing with the bench, though. However, isntead of signing fraggers, I feel like we need to be signing better smokers (astra/brim/viper). They signed bang, now they're dropping drone? Maybe if they focus more on the roles that prevent the team from playing a variety of strats, instead of just fragging capability we'd get somewhere. Ngl I'm still pissed at the hazed/brax thing. Brax pretty much plays the same roles as hazed, and is arguably a better, more agile, player... yet he gets dropped? It's as if they can't decide what they want to focus on, it's irritating. I legit feel like people on the roster are solely making the calls, not the management.

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loirito

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I don’t think the problem is necessarily that the players/coach are making the changes, after all they’re the ones that should most closely understand what the team needs. I’m afraid the problem runs a bit deeper than that, unfortunately. As a longtime TSM fan over many different games, TSM has historically made so many bad moves and I can’t help but feel like this is just another one.

I can understand bringing in bang with brax being gone as the team needed a change for sure and sometimes a player change is really all you need. Now, even if VCT was a big disappointment, making a change after one tournament with this lineup makes me doubt the thought process that goes along with it. The problem with TSM surely runs deeper than having one or two players come in and change everything all of a sudden. TSM has been underwhelming for so long now that individual changes like this will very hardly bring any significant change to the team.

I tend to think that when your team environment is already a winning one, bringing in a new player with firing power or new ideas is very very good. Unfortunately, TSM isn’t a winning team and these changes won’t make it a winning team. Cultural changes need to happen and that probably has to do with players, coaches, management and, imo, most importantly with whoever’s calling the shots. The problem is that sometimes that person might be your IGL and other times it might be a VP. One is replaceable, the other not really. TSM’s methods aren’t working, I feel like, and these are just patchwork fixes that will eventually go down the same line. I hope I’m wrong, though, since I’m a big TSM fan and I really love the team, especially hazed.

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I agree with most of what you say. But I definitely think it's a problem if they players are making the changes. Because player run teams. Other than sentinels, HEET, and idk. Have been usually been shown to kinda just fall off. Because they just don't have any specific vision usually and they usually are not as willing to make changes. Which I think was kinda happening with TSM because the coach kept on swapping roles with no clear vision and they never made roster moves.
I 100% agree with you on that this roster has more problems than just an individual thing. Because all of these players are very good at the game. But they just don't work well together well. I hope they get more support players though because literally all of their players were meant to be on duelist except for cutler and hazed. It felt like they were trying to force a role on to a duelist player when they honestly should've just made changes.

I personally am not a fan of the team but I hate to see such a big org in NA have such bad management.

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Welcome to Esports where you get signed, quit your relugar job and 1 month later they cut you cause you bottom fragged for 1 match.

LOL this system is garbage as fuck

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why is drone getting benched? he's literally their best duelist player, idc how good wardell was. when tsm was on top, they had drone on duelist, but now they wanna deviate from that lol. they are putting him on fucking brimstone it's hilarious. they need to replace wardell with a more versatile player who can also play jett. they also need to either put bang on smokes, and replace subroza, or put hazed on fulltime smokes and replace either bang/subroza

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lmao he never carried or sealed a game dude! stop fanboying!

#24

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u braindead?

#29

RRoadRRunneRR

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forgot youre a tsm fanboy who wears TSM pants lmao cryy

#36

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LMAO what he's a fanboy for saying they made a bad move? Actually hilarious that there are people who are that stupid in the world, thanks for the laugh roadkill

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duchesssx

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oh that guy is a troll and just says things to say them.

#69

PersonHere

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Which Team do you not hate?

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dude just say "i dont follow pro valorant" next time.

Since April (stage 2 VCT quals) He's positive K/D in their losses. He was their best player in First Strike and legit carried them. He was the best Phoenix in the world.

Lets face it, he was the best rifler on a team with an IGL that only feels comfortable playing duelists, a 1-trick Jett AWP, and a new pickup that has only played duelist.

They released him because they can't release their only non-duelist in Hazed and Subroza is too valuable as a streamer (on top of him clearly having a lot of pull).

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Good take. I feel like people are realizing more now how much wardell needs to learn how to play other agents. Jett still has huge pickrate in pro play(challengers 1 after the eco changes) but I think that will be subject to change and also there are just some maps were jett is just worse. Also I feel like this is slightly similar to GENG. Where huynh forced the team to play a certain style because he only played jett. And he only played jett in one way. It forced the team to mold around him. Of course Wardell is an excellent awper and he's one of the best in the world. But they just need to have him be more versatile.

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I actually agree with this. But too bad he won't change.

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now u said it, we're gonna see wardell's brimmy next qual

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theres a reason wardells stay in csgo was so shortlived, he was great at awping and that was it. imagine being pro and you have successfully learnt to play 1 agent at a competitive level, BIIIG YIKES!

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Drone hasn't been a good duelist since First Strike, his Phoenix is behind almost every t1 duelist at this point and has never had a good Raze. Drone was by far their weakest link in the last qualifier and is probably the last of the 4 "duelist" players on the roster.

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Critical would be a sick addition. He's a great Sova and has great fragging capability too.

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eeiu would be the best step but i dont think he will be available

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+NBK

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alxo

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It will never be a good team if you keep changing players like this

#33

vern

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its like the 2nd roster change give it a rest wtf

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dansofree

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vern what do you mean?

sign brax as 6th man, him and cutler rotate
cut cutler making new starting roster on some maps
cut tailored, sign chet as coach
cut brax/ sign bang
cut drone/ sign new person

7 total players and 4 major roster changes, along with a new coach, all in just over 3 months.

#62

vern

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ohhhhhhh fuck forgot the Brax one but your making it seem as if changes are bad when they are not.. the team is a complete shambles and they need these changes

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I mean it's inevitable the org itself is under a lot of pressure since they haven't done shit since first strike and they literally have 0 championship points. So the only way they even make it to last chance qualifiers is by qualifying for Berlin. I

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Critical would be pre gud

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ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8

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I'm guessing they'll get another young duelist?

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FireII

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virtyy time 🥴

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:C

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MontyPython75

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Drone hasnt been in top form since first strike. A tough move as he can be absolutely nuts, but honestly could be the right one

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jayy

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Sadly this was the move that needed to be made. I feel Wardell needs to have more flexibility too.

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Tbh a jett oper is viable on every map and wardell is constantly at the top of the leaderboard

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jayy

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agreed, you can throw an exception to bind because i think raze's util is way more important there or having a sage on wardell would be dope

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i think its expected from primary oper to be top or close to top of leaderboard regardless of the agent. jett fits that role perfectly, but its not restricted to it.

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a year ago probably one of the best NA players, everyone was scared to play against drone, he always won his duels and was consistent. now he is getting benched, sadge

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NU_Peri

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right now its linked to two people critical, and if Noble Levi wants to comes to TSM or not

#48

Aris

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delusional

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NU_Peri

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???? how and wtf are u smoking

#61

RRoadRRunneRR

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yea, leave a team for one you have won against so easy. it would be a bitch move!

#125

busterD

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$$$$$

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mAko

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I WANT LEVI TSM

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barooni

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TSM sinatraa lmfao

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Wardell isn’t a versatile player and Subroza and Bang both prefer duelist and Drone was their best Phoenix when they were winning. They need to drop Wardell and find more willing players to play support roles. Instead of throwing drone on brimstone lmfao

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hubbwi

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Wardell is their best fragger and has the biggest brand in the whole team, removing him would put the team into bankruptcy

#51

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Boomers getting yeeted lmao looks like hazed will be next if they still won't qualifiy

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Drone is like 23 years old

#52

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They need to sign Noble Precision that dude is insane

#56

NU_Peri

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U mean Noble Levi

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I understand that after so many months of doing basically nothing in Valorant, maybe some changes are needed, but I don't think TSM needs more firepower-with players like Wardell, Subroza, and Drone on the team, individual skill should be TSM's greatest strength. I think the main issue with TSM is that the players seemingly don't care or want to improve at all, or learn new agents. My faith in TSM will be restored when TSM decides to sign up for an NSG Tier 2 tournament, not when they perpetually keep making roster moves without a vision for the team.

#57

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tsm sinatraa?

#58

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Am I the only one thinking that TSM is great as it is. Their player composition isn't the best, but it doesn't need to change.
They just need more pro scene time. And they need to have a more stable performance at pro scene.
Because when I watch TSM sometime they play so good sometimes they play so bad. The inconsistent is just big.
It's like their mentality built not for competing at high level even they have high level skill.

#60

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TARIK LETS GO

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raka_gg

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Hazed is the problem but okay

#104

mod

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Yeah, this and that they keep signing fraggers. Should kept brax, dropped hazed. And instead of signing fraggers, sign role based players. We don't even have a good astra/sova. That was cutler kinda and he got drop because, again, they're prioritizing fragging.

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tsm dont understand or refuse to, that players who are duelist mains cant suddenly play a defensive/tempo control agent, not to forget against tier 1 teams XD. they are duelist mains cause they are used to making flashy, risky, many times aggresive 50/50 plays. as a sentinel/controller you have to play a completely different style.

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RIP the OG Phenoix god

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This is a very weird choice. TSM never really had a problem with individual talent. It always felt like they needed a better coach/IGL and more structure. They should have acquired a good support player instead of Bang, I don't get why they didn't go for Jcstany while he was a free agent. And for the people that claim that Wardell and Hazed are the problems, you clearly don't know what you're talking about. Wardell has the best KD + FKPR in NA and Hazed has been one of the best and consistent players on the team this past few months.

Let's hope that Chet stops whining about the games that he coaches and actually helps the team get back to its past glories.

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didn't expect this one

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ILL

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LOL 0 iq Drone was never a problem except from the noble game and he still did outfrag subroza...other than the noble game he was getting right amount of frags as a sova and pretty sure he has good chemistry with the team too...now TSM got to sign another player (reports says its BBG CRITICAL) T2 player signing for a T2 team...he is just as good as drone if not worse and he will take a lot of time to build a chemistry too...imo jus sign the whole noble squad...pretty sure whole roster gonna get nuked after they dont make pass RO16 in challengers 2 too and all the fans will now blame hazed and not wardell and subroza ( D riders )

#72

ILL

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And DRONE>BANG AS PHOENIX and RAZE
LOL tsm should have never gotte bang and shouldve got LEVIATHAN it would have actually been perfect levi plays both sova and viper

#74

ILL

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Actually 1 head.... hurts my head seeing the TSM management KEKW

#79

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fuck man... i dont like seeing the original roster being dropped one by one

#81

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Hazed trash at IGL, cutler wasn't bad at it but his aim is like plat.

#84

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tsm is the typ of org that cuts the head off while headache occurs!

of all the shitty guys they gonna drop drone, who was willing to play support unlike dell and roza!
they going places, not berlin but places

#85

ILL

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So fucking true man drone literally agrees to play any agent but wardell and roza jus play for making plays during tourneys with their jett and skye onetricks idk y would someone pick skye and sova on ascent thats so dum

#86

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True Wardell has been one tricking Jett OP since beta and Roza has been super inconsistent. Only consistent player on the team rn is Hazed and people wanna drop him lol.

#88

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Even though I'm a 100T fan, I love to see TSM immediately making moves to get better. Drone has been the weakest link for months now and I think his best days in Valorant are behind him(even though the game came out only a year ago). Interesting to see who they get to replace Drone, especially since there are so many great FAs available and a lot of great tier 2 players on smaller orgs who could get signed. The 2 players that come to mind are Critical and thwifo. Either one would be a massive upgrade in my eyes or they could go with a tier 2 guy.

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they were scrimming with critical

#92

ILL

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No way called thwifo t2 LUL thwifo is T1 dafuq wrong wid u and he in xset

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Fat_Lard

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English? But I never called him t2 and he got dropped from xset and replaced by zekken

#89

datdarnpig

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TSM m0e at this point lul they need an entry

#93

gautam2909

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Lets just not talk abt TSM anymore. I feel sad for the team but, it gets worse when they see this site only talking abt them.. WE should wait for what they are yet to show or just change the flairs and Sit Back!!

#98

zenv

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Tsm needs to replace their current roster imo like pick up jammyz yk what i mean

#99

hilo0829

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i mean deserved right?
can only play pheonix
bad sova
bad brim
doesnt play ranked
replaced by zoomer
its no surprise

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He was the only one willing to play other agents. Roza and wardell are aren't versatile, and they were never willing to change. Wardell has been running jett since beta. This is mainly the managements fault, they have a lack of role based players, yet they sign more fraggers?? They need to rethink the entire roster with this change. Utterly stupid. They should do what 100T did, drop the jett main and get more flexibility. We don't even have a good astra/sova player. That's legit the most crucial part for a team.

#106

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dicey barely played jett with 100T lol only on haven
and they r not gonna kick wardell rofl thats 1head
its either bang or drone and they chose the zoomer

#128

kapalrevolution

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can only play phoenix? he was the best phoenix on NA for some time until roza wanted to play phoenix to get all the attentions!
drone was the only one in tsm who was eager to play support/ increase his agent pool, unlike roza and dell. and if your teammates don't know anything about teamwork, all they know is ego-peeking it doesn't make it easy to play sova in a pro scene! fukin' boaster/sick even dapr plays sova and that is not their comfort pick either but still they make it work by pure teamwork and co-ordination!
doesn't play rank? rank has nothing to do with pro scene, admit it

you're being delusional!

#131

hilo0829

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what the fk

#100

jkaz

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bad

#101

ranker11

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Aleksander is free agent go grab him

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Yes please let's add more fraggers to tsm

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fraggers can play non duelist role look at shahzam derke scream cned doma mixwell...

#103

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waiting for supernova to come in and talk some headass shit

#107

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TSM FTX C0M?????

#109

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It's lowkey an amazing idea

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highkey 1head

#111

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incoming brax, azk tarik, dicey?

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jasonR ?

#119

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DANG FLEX role players are needed these days.

#122

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TSM is just a joke. Players just stealing paychecks, dont think they are focused enough on winning anything and happy with the salary they get for losing and streaming as well XD. The last time tsm was relevant, T1 was their competition, look where both of them are now KEK

#127

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Ok

#129

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TSM be like defense was never an option

#130

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TSM needs to disband, maybe keep a player or two and build a team around them? like 100T did with hiko ?

#132

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TSM Freakazoid pog

#133

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TSM flair has been replaced with Liquid :( Will focus on EU til then

TSM benches Drone, looking for replacement

tsm is the typ of org that cuts the head off while headache occurs!

you're being delusional!

TSM be like defense was never an option