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Slots for VCT 2022

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#1
eMdeee

If Riot is going to expand next year for 2022 and have a 24 team tournament, what do you think the slot distribution should be like? I split EMEA into EU/CIS/TR since that is what is rumored. IMO:
NA: 4
EU: 3
CIS: 2
TR: 1
BR: 2
LATAM: 2
SEA: 3
JP: 1
KR: 2
SA: 1 (new)
OCE/AUS: 2 (new)
CN: 1 (new)

#2
Noyn
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Agreed

#3
number_1_zombs_fan
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I like it as EMEA, it raises the level of play in the region and would be a bad thing for turkey and cis if they split up imo. also OCE 2 slots? idk bout that one

#4
gamingtaming
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If soniqs count as oceania it would be good

#51
johnyee
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soniqs is legit a tier 2/3 team bro

#56
juraf
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they might beat crazy raccoons tho

#57
123spark
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crazy raccoon will sweep anyone

#75
Pretty_rude
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not BBG

#89
unknown_trash
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But even BBG would lose to brimstone gaming

#76
Mjtchell
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Yea but if a tier two team makes it to international events, theyre going to get better playing with more skill levels and in turn oceania will benefit from it

#78
Thomaslee
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Eg will sweep everyone

#80
Mjtchell
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say ong???

#18
iMyw_
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Ye the OCE should go to SEA/Korea or like japan

#24
HeyClassic
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Have the OCE teams have their tournament, top 2 play on LAN in Korea/JP for a spot into the next Major VCT event

#5
DaalLiya
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CN or SA 2 and oce 1 oce have like 1000 to 3000 people watching for there main tourneys

#6
redlight
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SA and CN given the same number of slots as JP despite being new entries?

that is some wack shit.

#71
TractorBrrr
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Ideally JP should be merged with KR based on their performance this year. But since it's a business and viewership matters, they're still probably gonna give JP a separate slot.
If in any case JP get more than 1 slot, it'd be total bs

#7
Grumsy
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OCE will get one shot , the other one will go to China if they come into valo scene in 2022 and if not , it will go to SEA/SA

#8
ItsMeDio
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Perfect spot for Champions: 24
Master 2 Winner: 1

NA: 3
NA Last Chance: 1

EU: 2
CIS: 1
Middle East, Africa, TR: 2
EMEA Last Chance: 1

BR: 1
LATAM: 1
South America Last Chance: 2

SEA: 2
South Asian: 1
SEA+SA Last Chance: 1

JP: 1
KR: 1
China: 1
North Asian Last Chance: 1

OCE/AUS: 1

EDIT: I think latam & br last chance should get 2 spot (better competition) so
br 1 spot, latam 1, and SA last chance 2

#12
fracra
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if latam gets 2, kr should also get 2. both are basically one team regions

#14
Sprouts
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KR don't deserve 2, at best just merge JP+KR for a total of 2 slots

#45
fracra
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i'm not saying kr deserves 2, but since he said latam gets 2 i'm just giving a fair comparison between one team regions and how much slots they should get.

#15
ItsMeDio
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my bad. i change to 2 last chance south america, what do u think

#44
fracra
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sure, I think it's better to assess the competition between the other teams of latam and br

#73
Birssa
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EU with 3 teams we arre in quarter finals instead of NA. If EU get 2 then NA desevre 1 slots.

#77
Mjtchell
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nah bro you tripping, emea gets 6 slots in this theorhetical

#81
ItsMeDio
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what do u mean? EMEA got 6 slot in my list
EMEA this year only got 3 slot (except gambit)

#82
Birssa
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EMEA got 4 slots in Master 3

#87
ItsMeDio
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yeah, but it's master 3 winner slot
so emea only got 3 slot

#91
Parichay
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Agreed

#9
GGgod
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As much as I want SA to be represented , we still aren't even close to beating CR which was the last placed team at Champions this year. We need more practice with better teams before we get a direct Champions slot. Maybe integrate us into the SEA VCT so that we get regular practice with SEA teams.
I'm not saying we shouldn't absolutely get a slot but integration into SEA should be number 1 priority.
If a team is actually good enough they can qualify through SEA and if we show consistently good results give us a direct slot.

#10
ItsMeDio
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i think VLT & GE can beat CR easily
but the problem is SA region like LATAM & KR (1 team region)
only 2 team that really good, other are average and meh

#17
DaalLiya
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team like enigma are coming up and beating Global esports its altleast not a 2 teams region for sure

#84
SpaceCow
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Right, GE almost beat F4Q which was actually a good team (They threw a 1v3).

#11
AkamiRosario
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improvement happens from exposure
after how much sea has improved in 3 lans
when the same ws said about them in reukjavik that they dont stand a chance
plus its like world cup
everyone knows kenya or ireland aint winning it
yet they represent and learn from losees

#13
AkamiRosario
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it will be bad for indian scene if there is no indian seat
no sponsors will sponsor a sea integrated circuit
but if a indian circuit was developed the sponsors will help players and region grow so much rather than being a second hand to sea
teams like enigma are also catching up to ge and vlt and if region grows more improvement
and the ones more hungry to win will end up winning

#19
DaalLiya
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true no direct slot to SA in next master the game will be dead in india as people will see no opportunity or future in esports if they play that game and SA has way more viewership than SEA second most watched match in lcq was og GE and DWG

#16
DaalLiya
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lul they can beat team like cr if they can beat team like DAMWON Gaming and do please don't consider online tourney performance against sg team where indian play 60-70 ping and sg team on 10 ping even teams like secret lost to team like lvr and other sg teams in online tourneys and SA cant be integrated into sea first sea it self has many countries and ping difference between SA and SEA . If SA doesn't get direct slot in master next year or gets integrated in SEA the game will Dead like CS and dota in india as we didnt had any exposure to other regions in that games .

#26
username_
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The integration would only be possible if the SEA+SA Playoffs are LAN, which might be difficult because of the new variant. But it would be the best for the region.

#28
DaalLiya
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same mistake what valve did with cs merge sa with sea

#67
Shashwat_Singh
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Not agreed if GE can give competition to teams like LVR, DAMWON, F4Q we can surely beat beat CR. VLT also dominated Bleed.We are surely not very far away even though we rarely get to play international matches. If riot wants our region to improve international exposure is surely needed. I dont get the idea of we dont deserve slot and all, we havent even got a chance to prove ourselves.

#20
Glfty
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Personally I agree with the 24 slot idea, especially because it will make these events feel more grand than just a couple day stint. I don't think splitting the highly competitive regions into smaller regions would help with the games progression though. EMEA have proven in the last couple months that it is better to combine more regions into one. NA deserve more spots as it will drive the viewership up and they need more international events so NA can understand the meta. Korea have shown that they are a one team region, but maybe by allowing more of these teams to make it through they could be real competitors. OCE/AUS have not yet gotten a chance and I think giving them 2 slots for next years VCT is a good way of balancing that out. Japan, although having high viewership numbers, is not that great of a region. If LATAM win this champions, I think they would be given 4 in favour of removing smaller regions like SA which could just be thrown into the Korean or Japanese circuits occasionally.
NA: 4
EMEA: 4
BR: 2
LATAM: 2
SEA: 3
JP: 1
KR: 3
OCE/AUS: 2
CN: 1

#21
Shiro_ung
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I think may be give China 2 slots? I heard that their plays pretty good and insane aim so may be take one slot from KR?

#79
Mjtchell
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I'd love to see Northeption play internationally

#22
battery
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kr 3 oce 2 ....fam r u dreamin??LOL

#25
cheaterr
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u high bud? KR 3? and OCE 2?

#27
DaalLiya
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aus and kr 2 and 3 slots with 3k to 5k viewership and south asia with 40k-60k viewer 0 slots lul

#29
battery
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ikr ...the aus region dont even care about the game ....and korea didnt prove nothing to get 3 spots

#30
DaalLiya
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streamers in india get more viewer in valorant streams than these korean and australian top matches

#32
chloeburbank
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-SA +2OCE?? will never happen

#23
shyftnot
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tbh tr has more good teams than cis.so i would give 2 spots to tr and 1 to cis or split evenly between the 3 sub-regions. and probably give both na and latam 3 spots.

#31
chloeburbank
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oce will never get direct slots (im not hating) weak viewership

#42
number1_ScreaM_fan
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the population is only 20 mil there anyway

#33
Sprouts
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Main Event
3 EMEA
2 NA
2 SEA
2 BR
2 EA (CN+KR+JP)
1 LATAM

Play Ins
1 South Asia
1 OCE
1 MENA
2 EMEA LCQ
2 NA LCQ
2 APAC LCQ
2 SA LCQ
+1 Slot Champions 2021 Winner's Region

#40
valvenq
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Perfect, only thing I personally would change is East Asia being 3 slots, and NA LCQ 1.

#34
avepalto
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happy to see everyone agrees on giving latam and korea more slots

#35
NightBeam
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24 Slots

Master 1 Winner: 1
Master 2 Winner: 1

NA: 2
OCE: 1
NA + OCE Last Chance: 1

EU: 4
Middle East, Africa: 1
EMEA Last Chance: 1

BR: 1
LATAM: 1
South America Last Chance: 2

SEA: 2
South Asian: 1
SEA+SA Last Chance: 1

Japan: 1
Korea: 2
China: 1
North Asian Last Chance: 1

#36
ItsMeDio
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nah
master 1 winner doesn't deserve direct slot to champs

#64
VirajKnight
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Then why tf there is Masters 1.

#37
dexter000111
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No offense to any Indians/Pakistanis but I don't think SA should have a direct spot
I watched the APAC LCQ matches through ONSCREEN's watch party and their gameplay was good but not worthy of a direct spot at Champions

#41
OzyMeister
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you must be dumb if you judged a region with 7 countries based on 1 team that too with 0 VCT experience prior LCQ in 2021 meanwhile Korean teams have been in the VCT circuit the whole time and still struggled again GE.

#38
VirajKnight
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Too soon. I hope next year they won't expand. Now we have some competitive teams but not enough for 24 slots. 16 is enough for the next year as well otherwise it will be boring just like this year masters.

#39
fortnite_gupta
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na doesnt deserve 4 but riot sucking na off so might as well be it

#43
s1mple_valorant_killer69
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LATAM 2 SLOTS and -JP slot and put JP to APAC qualifer slot

JP need to earn it to get into here instead of relaxing and getting destroyed like every other lan

after seeing KRU i wanna see how this region have more than 1 slot and we know EU is so good and too good but KRU managed to defeat one of the best EU team so yeah

#46
Thomaslee
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So in normal masters how many teams will there be?

#47
NiicoS
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Spot for Champions: 24
Master 2 Winner: 1

NA: 2
NA Last Chance: 1

EU: 2
CIS: 1
Middle East, Africa, TR: 1
EMEA Last Chance: 1

BR: 1
LATAM: 2
South America Last Chance: 1

SEA: 2
SEA+SA Last Chance: 1

JP: 1
KR: 2
China: 1
North Asian Last Chance: 1

OCE/AUS: 1

#48
taker
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Masters 2: 1

NA: 3
NA Last Chance: 1

EU: 3
CIS: 1
TR: 1
MENA: 1
EMEA Last Chance: 1

JP: 1
KR: 1
CN: 1
APAC North Last Chance: 1

SEA: 2
SA: 1
OCE: 1
APAC South Last Chance: 1

BR: 1
LATAM: 1
SA Last Chance: 1

#49
DaalLiya
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best till now

#86
ThiiFps
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almost same as mine, look #85

#50
kristof
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Thats the biggest bullshit ive seen in the last 5 minutes…
4 slots for NA?? wtf? those mfs cant even shoot straight..
And EU only 3?? EU bring the competition to the tourney, without them it would be just a big shitshow full of roza ults

#52
Birssa
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EU & CIS : 4
Turkey & MENA : 2
LATAM : 2
BR : 1
NA : 2
South Asia : 1
South-East-Asia & Oceania : 2
China : 1
Korea : 2
Japan : 1

EMEA LCQ : 2 (EU & CIS, TR & MENA)
Americas LCQ : 2 (NA, LATAM, BR)
APAC LCQ : 2 (SA, SEA & OCE, CN, KR, JP)

#58
eMdeee
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I would agree if it was a 16 team LAN, but I'm pretty sure the rumor is an expanded 24 team format. Maybe EU 4 NA 4 and OCE 1 instead of 2 would make sense

#83
Birssa
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NA and EU cannot get the same amount on slots based on performance. EU should always been higher than NA. The 3 EU teams in Champions we arre in Quarter-final (minimum) and only 1 NA team were in Quarter-final.

#53
0vertaker
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Everybody wanting to take Brazil slots away
The brazilian scene hasn't develop itself yet. Most part of the teams havn't entered in the scene yet.
Since always a country known for being on of the greates in tactical FPS, and you want to give them just 1 slot?
While NA, that has never done anything relevant to FPSs will stay with 3 and four.
LATAM has one pretty good team, but the other teams don't come close to it, considering that they couldn't even win the LCQ
I honestly think it's to early to take this decisions. In CS, Brazil neede some time before they became world champions, and the same goes for valorant

#54
sank3tsu
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The spot they took they put on last chance from what i see , so its not a bad idea

#59
eMdeee
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I didn't take away any slots you guys just didn't add any when it got extrapolated to 24.

#55
Mortadelo
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I completely agree with your list. Maybe the only mistake is the 2 OCE, 1 is enough and the other one could go to another region maybe Turkey, Japan or NA

#60
eMdeee
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would probably just give EU another slot, or maybe France on its own because they are now having a separate league?

#88
Mortadelo
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Nah, many countries are gonna have separate leagues (Spain for example). Idk who I would give the slot, maybe an extra one for a APAC LCQ as there is the most regions in there, idk

#61
queueK
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NA - 2
NA LCQ - 1

EU - 2
CIS - 1
TR - 1
MENA - 1
EMEA LCQ - 1

SEA - 2
CN - 2
JP - 1
KR - 1
OCE - 1
SA -1
APAC LCQ - 1

BR - 2
LATAM - 2
SA LCQ - 1

MASTERS Winer - 1

#62
eMdeee
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In theory this looks fine (I think Riot might give NA another slot) but I would take China's 2nd slot and give it to KR, they had a bad showing at Champs but they have the talent and have at least performed decently. We haven't even seen CN teams and apparently they are still far behind in meta.

#63
queueK
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I think it's important to more or less suck Chinese dick because that viewership is too good to give up. And, if they do get interested in the game it's almost a certainty that there will shortly be a world champ contender team created.

For 2022 it might make sense to give KR another slot, but I think the CN 2 slot thing makes more sense in the long term.

#66
eMdeee
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Would it make sense to combine MENA with TR and have MENA's own slot go to CN in your model? I feel like both KR and CN should get 2

#65
makoidk
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For 24-team tourney:
2 - Masters Winners
4 - LCQ
4 - EMEA
3 - NA
3 - SEA
2 - BR
2 - KR
2 - JP
2 - LATAM

For 16-team:
2 - Masters Winners
4 - LCQ
2 - EMEA
2 - NA
2 - SEA/BR (idk, could be either, id rather it be SEA tho)
1 - BR/SEA
1 - KR
1 - JP
1 - LATAM

#68
pratik
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bro oceania and south asia are also there....Riot must be thinking about them

#90
makoidk
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true, but i feel like direct slots for SA and OCE could only work in a 24 team tournament

#69
ShadowisBAD
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6 for EMEA oh HELL nah make it the same for NA then

#70
MilanTheMyth
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1 SA slot is all want.

#72
Miting
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I hope EMEA won't split up. And we won't see M5/Gambit LoL story in Valorant again

#74
Birssa
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EU & CIS : 4
Turkey & MENA : 2
LATAM : 2
BR : 1
NA : 2
South Asia : 1
South-East-Asia & Oceania : 2
China : 1
Korea : 2
Japan : 1

EMEA LCQ : 2 (EU & CIS, TR & MENA)
Americas LCQ : 2 (NA, LATAM, BR)
APAC LCQ : 2 (SA, SEA & OCE, CN, KR, JP)

#85
ThiiFps
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Masters, 16 teams:
3 EMEA (with MENA)
3 OCENA (OCE + NA)
1 BR
2 LATAM
2 KR
1 CN
1 JP
2 SEA
1 SA

Champions, 24 teams, (12 main event, 12 play-in)

main event
2 EMEA
2 OCENA
1 LATAM
1 BR
1 KR
1 JP
1 CN
1 SEA
1 SA
1 Masters 2 Winner

Play-in:
2 EMEA
2 OCENA
1 LATAM
1 KR
1 SEA
1 LCQ EMEA
1 LCQ OCENA
1 LCQ LATAM (with BR)
1 LCQ APAC NORTH (KR, JP and CN)
1 LCQ APAC SOUTH (SEA and SA)

#92
EpicWolf
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the same here, but with this differences:
4 Emea.
2 or 3 Na.
2 latam.
Cuz the VCT 2022 will be bassed in the performance of the regions, and Emea have their 4 teams in the top of champs, NA need to improve their performance, cuz their performance in champs are not good. Also LATAM was improving since the first lan, taking top 8 in the world in Masters 3 and top 4 in the champs.

#93
Icedlemon
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24 teams, interesting

#94
Lyze
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Wasn't it APAC now?

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