we need to start a conversation about how 90% of people attending events are 16yo egirls and u got kpop style fangirls simping for pro players on twitter
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danii1 [#2]No conversation is gonna help with this topic I fear. Making this thread worthless and you're just looking for attention because you hate it so much
hes not tho? its a real issue if they dont even know how to play the game or know the players at all.
makoidk [#4]the audience is valorant esports' main distinction from cs. can't really do anything about it, although i do dislike the "Kpop-ification" of players/teams specifically
half of these so-called fans dont even know whats going on most of the time. they just bandwagon the most popular teams
Cryptic88 [#5]half of these so-called fans dont even know whats going on most of the time. they just bandwagon the most popular teams
Sounds like vlr 😂
IonlywatchvcjXD [#6]Sounds like vlr 😂
at least vlr users know who are the pro players. those "k-pop" fans dont
Cryptic88 [#3]hes not tho? its a real issue if they dont even know how to play the game or know the players at all.
A real issue? Sure. What do you want to do about this tho I'm very curious to hear
IonlywatchvcjXD [#10]It's as simple as somewhere along the line, riot's marketing strategy intentional or not started to attract those kinds of people instead of the intended ones.
it looks intentional to me. their league and val fanbase and playerbase are filled with cringe and toxic people
💫💘🌙🤲🏻😭And many of you denied my point when I bring it up✨🤏🏻🎀💖🌈
https://www.vlr.gg/post/4603856/vlr-vs-cs-esports
💫💘🌙🤲🏻😭We know this situation is crazy✨🤏🏻🎀💖🌈
Their fan art are making players pregnant 😭😭😭 Who can take that? not me
HIMNOTHER [#12]💫💘🌙🤲🏻😭And many of you denied my point when I bring it up✨🤏🏻🎀💖🌈
https://www.vlr.gg/post/4603856/vlr-vs-cs-esports
💫💘🌙🤲🏻😭We know this situation is crazy✨🤏🏻🎀💖🌈
Their fan art are making players pregnant 😭😭😭 Who can take that? not me
you could've just said Valo attracts more female fans than male fans, but you had to say man are associated with smoking gambling and shittalking..
IonlywatchvcjXD [#14]you could've just said Valo attracts more female fans than male fans, but you had to say man are associated with smoking gambling and shittalking..
val attracts more incels too. im lucky that apac have very few cringe e couples. im sorry for emea and na tho yall suffer every game bcz of those ppl
fanofzmjjkk [#13]You are crazy.
Im so nervous .. so I said yes, for me 😭 btw my baby is so good in the matches and super adorable after match 💖 rest well, have a good night my kangbao 💫💘🌙🤲🏻😭🪄👶🏻✨🤏🏻🎀💖🌈
fanofzmjjkk [#13]You are crazy.
he isn't,
looking at your username i get it why are you calling him crazy
Cryptic88 [#11]it looks intentional to me. their league and val fanbase and playerbase are filled with cringe and toxic people
Idk about intentional tho, Riot are doing their activity in East Asian countries and countries like Thailand. Those countries even without Riot intentional marketing will attracts fangirls sooner or later, that's just how they are.
At the end of the day, it's the orgs themselves that choose how to market themselves. Riot only cares about the skins.
Idk abt cringe, but it would be either naive or you're just new to esports to think that other games don't attract toxic people. It's a competitive game.
IonlywatchvcjXD [#14]you could've just said Valo attracts more female fans than male fans, but you had to say man are associated with smoking gambling and shittalking..
We know the fact not every men do gamble, alcohol, support shit talk or wild thing.
But...
If some sport let their audeince freedom to enjoy all these thing. Who are they attract?
the answer is Grow up male or in another word = "MAN"
It's just simple marketing bro you don't have to tweak the word it's the fact all these thing build for man and keep another group out such as you sissy cute boy. ✨🤏🏻🎀💖🌈
Cacachocolat [#21]I'm going back to CS, real chads game.
valarante child game.... look to cartoon grapfix to make kid player happy like children show.. valarante cartoon world with rainbow unlike counter strike with dark corridorr and raelistic gun.. valarante like playhouse. valarant playor run from csgo fear of dark world and realism so need child game to relax
This is just a common theme with RIOT game franchises no? League is very much the same and VALORANT is basically the FPS equivalent or supposedly tries to be. It has always been this way as well in Asia especially hence why VALORANT is big on casual gamers and playerbase. Better to target an opening in the market than try to get CS fans to shift over which they know they won't since the remaining playerbase is either die hard fans or gamblers and skin merchants.
IonlywatchvcjXD [#19]Idk about intentional tho, Riot are doing their activity in East Asian countries and countries like Thailand. Those countries even without Riot intentional marketing will attracts fangirls sooner or later, that's just how they are.
At the end of the day, it's the orgs themselves that choose how to market themselves. Riot only cares about the skins.
Idk abt cringe, but it would be either naive or you're just new to esports to think that other games don't attract toxic people. It's a competitive game.
no like league players specifically are the worst human beings on earth. val players dont even touch the level of toxic yet because their insults are like weak af
FiredSkull- [#26]We need to start racist, transphobic, toxic chants like English football chants that Riot will never let that happen.
If theres ever a master of champs in the UK you get those types of chants
aburnie [#24]This is just a common theme with RIOT game franchises no? League is very much the same and VALORANT is basically the FPS equivalent or supposedly tries to be. It has always been this way as well in Asia especially hence why VALORANT is big on casual gamers and playerbase. Better to target an opening in the market than try to get CS fans to shift over which they know they won't since the remaining playerbase is either die hard fans or gamblers and skin merchants.
Riot isn't even the problem imo, you're doing business in Asian countries where these kinds of behavior are common, that's just the "risk" of doing business here.
danii1 [#2]No conversation is gonna help with this topic I fear. Making this thread worthless and you're just looking for attention because you hate it so much
I swear to God most of these girls simping for players dont even play the game
Himari [#29]But these twitter accounts will be calling players "my baby" like there 20+ years old LMFAO its just werid behaviour
and funny thing is they are 16 yr calling 21 yr a baby... man I can't
danii1 [#8]A real issue? Sure. What do you want to do about this tho I'm very curious to hear
Gotta join forces and force Rito into not pandering to these people by making them their target audience, its smart from a business perspective since women and even more so women who are into kpop and shit like that are materialistic and perfect consumers, they will just buy anything even if its useless but honestly the rest of us normal human being that just enjoy to play and watch valorant shouldnt need to suffer Riot pandering to such a minority because of capitalistic reasons, its fine if they wanna market the game to be more friendly to women but u gotta condemm these kpop style fanatics that start sending hate to players for stupid reasons and just bring a bad image to the sport ngl, I respect it because they only care about money but will valorant will be viewed as a serious esport long term if its main audience are beings like that?
idkbro [#32]Gotta join forces and force Rito into not pandering to these people by making them their target audience, its smart from a business perspective since women and even more so women who are into kpop and shit like that are materialistic and perfect consumers, they will just buy anything even if its useless but honestly the rest of us normal human being that just enjoy to play and watch valorant shouldnt need to suffer Riot pandering to such a minority because of capitalistic reasons, its fine if they wanna market the game to be more friendly to women but u gotta condemm these kpop style fanatics that start sending hate to players for stupid reasons and just bring a bad image to the sport ngl, I respect it because they only care about money but will valorant will be viewed as a serious esport long term if its main audience are beings like that?
Tf u want riot to do kick them out of the arena,
Like why tf u hate them so much what have they done to u
U need to calm down
Cryptic88 [#16]val attracts more incels too. im lucky that apac have very few cringe e couples. im sorry for emea and na tho yall suffer every game bcz of those ppl
only if u are low elo u suffer those fucks, thankfully the higher elo u are it becomes less common, u might see girls getting carried by their duo but not in a cringe way
Himari [#29]But these twitter accounts will be calling players "my baby" like there 20+ years old LMFAO its just werid behaviour
league is filled with these creeps, i'm afraid val dosent have much time left before it gets fully plagued by these disgusting creepy mfs.
like how do you see shit like this and ignore like its NORMAL BEHAVIOUR???
_MythoS [#33]Tf u want riot to do kick them out of the arena,
Like why tf u hate them so much what have they done to u
U need to calm down
What I'm saying
idkbro [#30]I swear to God most of these girls simping for players dont even play the game
That just seems like a you problem. Just mind your own business and stop caring what other people do if it doesn't concern you, especially something dumb like this.
HIMNOTHER [#9]Im so nervous .. so I said yes, for me 😭 btw my baby is so good in the matches and super adorable after match 💖 rest well, have a good night my kangbao 💫💘🌙🤲🏻😭🪄👶🏻✨🤏🏻🎀💖🌈
It's honestly funny to me 😭
aburnie [#24]This is just a common theme with RIOT game franchises no? League is very much the same and VALORANT is basically the FPS equivalent or supposedly tries to be. It has always been this way as well in Asia especially hence why VALORANT is big on casual gamers and playerbase. Better to target an opening in the market than try to get CS fans to shift over which they know they won't since the remaining playerbase is either die hard fans or gamblers and skin merchants.
interesting that this behaviour is common over there in Asia, I guess normal fans who genuily enjoy the game will have to suffer these people but honestly if I have to see another edit of a player PREGNANT I will lose it, I can tolerate fangirls doing video edits on players and drooling over them but pregnant edits is lowkey sexual harrasment or something like that no? lmfao
Marc_ [#35]league is filled with these creeps, i'm afraid val dosent have much time left before it gets fully plagued by these disgusting creepy mfs.
like how do you see shit like this and ignore like its NORMAL BEHAVIOUR???
5k likes LMFAOOO
Marc_ [#35]league is filled with these creeps, i'm afraid val dosent have much time left before it gets fully plagued by these disgusting creepy mfs.
like how do you see shit like this and ignore like its NORMAL BEHAVIOUR???
so cute 👶🏻✨🤏🏻🎀💖🌈
danii1 [#38]That just seems like a you problem. Just mind your own business and stop caring what other people do if it doesn't concern you, especially something dumb like this.
https://x.com/chuuballing/status/1893673476889674226 bruh, this is very concerning, having more women than in cs is fine but this is just very weird behaviour, do you really want these people to be everywhere in valorant esports? they will make this game insufferable eventually
_MythoS [#33]Tf u want riot to do kick them out of the arena,
Like why tf u hate them so much what have they done to u
U need to calm down
https://x.com/chuuballing/status/1893673476889674226 I want Rito to not pander to them for capitalistic reasons, u cant force them not to watch valorant but its not like most of them even know what the agents are called so they might stop if they dont pander to them
danii1 [#42]It literally is yeah. At least from the op of this thread
it is just that in general just a bunch of insecure men crying about women entering spaces traditionally for men
idkbro [#47]https://x.com/chuuballing/status/1893673476889674226 I want Rito to not pander to them for capitalistic reasons, u cant force them not to watch valorant but its not like most of them even know what the agents are called so they might stop if they dont pander to them
this is the funniest joke ever if zellsis is ok with mpreg fanart i dont see anyone talking about zellsis here and how he feels
this is all just an excuse for you to hate on women lmao get a life
Cryptic88 [#7]at least vlr users know who are the pro players. those "k-pop" fans dont
does @SmoggyUwuKitten65 know about ZETA barce and his Brimstone at Masters Berlin 2021 ? nope...
z12 [#48]it is just that in general just a bunch of insecure men crying about women entering spaces traditionally for men
brother this is not about women, this is about a very specific female audience, valorant used to be a woke esport that attracted mainly egirls with pronouns on bio and mental disorders but in the end thats fine, KPOP fangirls if u have never experienced it are not only toxic but incredibly dangerous individuals that arent much better than psycopaths who are obsessed over something
Marc_ [#35]league is filled with these creeps, i'm afraid val dosent have much time left before it gets fully plagued by these disgusting creepy mfs.
like how do you see shit like this and ignore like its NORMAL BEHAVIOUR???
Sen fans are do much freaky that they want Zellsis pregnant more than the SEN win and also artist also have been inspired by Hatsune Miku to draw people pergnant. The inspiration :- https://youtu.be/Ag3ziHnwHT0?si=SeX8s2BdOlqW8jEj
z12 [#50]this is the funniest joke ever if zellsis is ok with mpreg fanart i dont see anyone talking about zellsis here and how he feels
this is all just an excuse for you to hate on women lmao get a life
brother they are the ones doing making players pregnant on twitter, making video edits on players from a game they dont even play and literally drooling over players which is the only thing they care about because surprise surprise they dont play or give a fuck about the actual game and are just fangirls of specific players to the point they will start sending death threats and try to cancel other players if they talk shit, they are the ones that should get a life not us who literally just want to enjoy the game
danii1 [#39]It's honestly funny to me 😭
tbf its funny unless they become the majority and they start sending death threats/harassing players they dont like like switfties/kpop fans
idkbro [#54]brother they are the ones doing making players pregnant on twitter, making video edits on players from a game they dont even play and literally drooling over players which is the only thing they care about because surprise surprise they dont play or give a fuck about the actual game and are just fangirls of specific players to the point they will start sending death threats and try to cancel other players if they talk shit, they are the ones that should get a life not us who literally just want to enjoy the game
so you are just assuming shit and getting mad?
TheOnion [#49]Tiktok created these weird people, shout-out to women though.
I thought valorant being full of woke idiots (both men and women) detached from reality was bad but honestly we had it good back then ngl, nowadays I just see video edits about players like its kpop tiktok and in a couple months I am sure we will see 16yo fangirls writing erotica involving players lol
Cryptic88 [#5]half of these so-called fans dont even know whats going on most of the time. they just bandwagon the most popular teams
Yeah this, its always the same teams: SEN and PRX mostly but also FNC and EDG
z12 [#57]so you are just assuming shit and getting mad?
brother, fangirls like that are literally the way I am describing them in every other shit they are fans of, what makes you think it will be different for valorant? I wont call you an idiot out of respect for you using that flag
idkbro [#58]I thought valorant being full of woke idiots (both men and women) detached from reality was bad but honestly we had it good back then ngl, nowadays I just see video edits about players like its kpop tiktok and in a couple months I am sure we will see 16yo fangirls writing erotica involving players lol
Only player edits I support are Leo ones, that’s my goat
Srathens1 [#59]Yeah this, its always the same teams: SEN and PRX mostly but also FNC and EDG
Boaster my little baby POOKIE DOOKIE YADAYAYAYADA 💫💘🌙🤲🏻😭🪄👶🏻✨🤏🏻🎀💖🌈 AM I THE ONLY ONE ✨ WHO HAS THOUGHT 🤲🏻 ABOUT BEING IMPREGNATED BY BOASTIIIIES 👶🏻 THE CUTIE PATOOTIE 🎀 ??? 💫💘🌙🤲🏻😭🪄👶🏻✨🤏🏻🎀💖🌈💫💘🌙🤲🏻😭🪄👶🏻✨🤏🏻🎀💖🌈
idkbro [#58]I thought valorant being full of woke idiots (both men and women) detached from reality was bad but honestly we had it good back then ngl, nowadays I just see video edits about players like its kpop tiktok and in a couple months I am sure we will see 16yo fangirls writing erotica involving players lol
Tiktok is banned in India (Thank God) is Tiktok audience this much mentally ill ? And Instagram have become racism and corn app ( like people are begging for the racist feed bcuz of the amount of the corn videos ON IG is insane)
TheOnion [#61]Only player edits I support are Leo ones, that’s my goat
facts, as long as they are funny its fine for me but the asian fangirls are big in numbers and are now supporting heretics because of their performances last year and them being friends with the geng players, edits in a vacuum arent bad but the people doing them nowadays are serious about it and arent better than men who sexualize women who do sports and behave in obsessive and psychopathic ways like fangirls from other sports/music, this could eventually put the security of players in risk if they say something they dont like so its not something I would fuck around with if I am Riot, u cant really stop them but at least dont pander to them and make sure players receive the right security if they go to events in Asia
FiredSkull- [#63]Tiktok is banned in India (Thank God) is Tiktok audience this much mentally ill ? And Instagram have become racism and corn app ( like people are begging for the racist feed bcuz of the amount of the corn videos ON IG is insane)
thankfully I only use twitter and tbf its not perfect and u can feel the political/phylosophical divide between western men/women nowadays but its not as much brainrot and u can always mute but yeah there is a lot of mentally ill people in both sides of it, common sense is something that is not common in this day and age on social media specially, its bad in real life too but social media makes u lose hope in humanity ngl
GambleNats [#66]bro who actually cares? it makes money for esport, they enjoy themselves, the pros arent feeling pressure by them and they dont affect u or me... so who cares?
it does affect us and even if its fine rn u gotta look into the shitshow it could become in the future if valorant becomes BIG, also idrc if it makes Riot/Tencent money because they are already billion dollar multinational corporations and dont even bother getting good PCs for players to play on
idkbro [#67]it does affect us and even if its fine rn u gotta look into the shitshow it could become in the future if valorant becomes BIG, also idrc if it makes Riot/Tencent money because they are already billion dollar multinational corporations and dont even bother getting good PCs for players to play on
it does affect us and even if its fine rn u gotta look into the shitshow it could become in the future if valorant becomes BIG
how
z12 [#57]so you are just assuming shit and getting mad?
I would say this similar stuff happened with Flashback as well when his matter arised and many of the prx fans on twitter went on a fucking outrage because they just got reverse swept by drx
SleepingSnorlax [#71]I would say this similar stuff happened with Flashback as well when his matter arised and many of the prx fans on twitter went on a fucking outrage because they just got reverse swept by drx
that was a fucking sexual assault allegation people are allowed to be fucking mad about that
MalMallam [#72]old man yells at cloud
kinda I guess, just gotta accept defeat and pray that they dont do too much damage at this point
idkbro [#62]Boaster my little baby POOKIE DOOKIE YADAYAYAYADA 💫💘🌙🤲🏻😭🪄👶🏻✨🤏🏻🎀💖🌈 AM I THE ONLY ONE ✨ WHO HAS THOUGHT 🤲🏻 ABOUT BEING IMPREGNATED BY BOASTIIIIES 👶🏻 THE CUTIE PATOOTIE 🎀 ??? 💫💘🌙🤲🏻😭🪄👶🏻✨🤏🏻🎀💖🌈💫💘🌙🤲🏻😭🪄👶🏻✨🤏🏻🎀💖🌈
woah didnt know you felt that way man
lila2123 [#77]Is that really something u care about to an extent that u need to discuss it??? Think about real issues like class oppression or smth bro
if vlr tries to start discussions like that all of the users will get a time out (that's the minimum punishment)
Cacachocolat [#21]I'm going back to CS, real chads game.
"chad" LOSER SPOTTED LOSER SPOTTED LOSER SPOTTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
idkbro [#75]kinda I guess, just gotta accept defeat and pray that they dont do too much damage at this point
brother what damage. you arent forced to consume the content they make, you arent forced to go on twitter and look at zellsis mpreg art. go outside and enjoy the world and you will discover how meaningless your worries about this are.
tserc [#78]if vlr tries to start discussions like that all of the users will get a time out (that's the minimum punishment)
Then he should not be addressing politics in su h a manner. Instead, he can discuss how teams he doesnt like suck or smth idk
lila2123 [#81]Then he should not be addressing politics in su h a manner. Instead, he can discuss how teams he doesnt like suck or smth idk
not sure if vlr keeps going in that rate without something interesting happening
Cacachocolat [#21]I'm going back to CS, real chads game.
IDK wdy mean by chads game when I play CS I see bunch of N-word Ak and I am too sacred to open mic in CS bcuz I don't want hear Racial slur in 3 different language (SEA)
lila2123 [#88]Wym
most of the time when a match is not happening, vlr doesn't have that much to talk about
tserc [#89]most of the time when a match is not happening, vlr doesn't have that much to talk about
You can talk abt stuff, that isnt hateful politics man. Most of us manage to do that
lila2123 [#90]You can talk abt stuff, that isnt hateful politics man. Most of us manage to do that
I'm going to need to ask the mods for some clarification
tserc [#93]well, on what scope is politics/religion bannable or not
I agree. I think the rules are vague. Since we do not know, if politics regarding valorant and the community are allowed
FiredSkull- [#83]IDK wdy mean by chads game when I play CS I see bunch of N-word Ak and I am too sacred to open mic in CS bcuz I don't want hear Racial slur in 3 different language (SEA)
I was obviously ironic I don't even play the game lmao
HIMNOTHER [#22]We know the fact not every men do gamble, alcohol, support shit talk or wild thing.
But...
If some sport let their audeince freedom to enjoy all these thing. Who are they attract?
the answer is Grow up male or in another word = "MAN"It's just simple marketing bro you don't have to tweak the word it's the fact all these thing build for man and keep another group out such as you sissy cute boy. ✨🤏🏻🎀💖🌈
you're so sigma bro 🥶🥶 owned these beta males 💯💯
makoidk [#51]does @SmoggyUwuKitten65 know about ZETA barce and his Brimstone at Masters Berlin 2021 ? nope...
yo what did I do 🗿
if this was about issues of racism sexism or any real form of hate crime within the community i would agree, but im convinced anyone who complains about the “kpopification” of vct doesn’t actually care about those types of things and is just angry that the vct community doesn’t fit the alpha male sports stadium type of crowd that you’ve come to expect from sports events
Loomer [#99]if this was about issues of racism sexism or any real form of hate crime within the community i would agree, but im convinced anyone who complains about the “kpopification” of vct doesn’t actually care about those types of things and is just angry that the vct community doesn’t fit the alpha male sports stadium type of crowd that you’ve come to expect from sports events
STFU Its eSPORTS learn something from outdoor sports and also from CS look at the crowd, we all are hating fangirls who don't know jackshit about the game going in tourny like "Im so nervous .. so I said yes, for me 😭 btw my baby is so good in the matches and super adorable after match 💖 rest well, have a good night my kangbao 💫💘🌙🤲🏻😭🪄👶🏻✨🤏🏻🎀💖🌈".We don't know need that shit we need Buzz trash talking to DRX, we need Johnqt going "NUH UH", we need ZmjjKK giving inspirational quote, we need nAts giving call to his team "Just send it how? send it together!".
THIS WHAT MAKES VALORANT ESPORTS. Thai crowd is pretty good screaming top of their lungs and also WDYM by "alpha male sports stadium type " I have seen female crowd supporting their team. YOU and YOU alone are the calling it sexist , why don't u ask the fangirls coming to support
EDG? not every EDG fan is like that but we are pointing out THE FANGIRLS who are treating ZmjjKK as a idol and this shit only happens on Korea and China where idol culture is popular. Have ever seen TenZ fan doing shit like this? Respectfully try to understand the SPORTS CULTURE. Its not your fav Idol group, IT IS FUCKING SPORT.
Loomer [#99]if this was about issues of racism sexism or any real form of hate crime within the community i would agree, but im convinced anyone who complains about the “kpopification” of vct doesn’t actually care about those types of things and is just angry that the vct community doesn’t fit the alpha male sports stadium type of crowd that you’ve come to expect from sports events
They expect VCT crowds to be like CSGO crowds where there are only shirtless middle aged men
FiredSkull- [#100]STFU Its eSPORTS learn something from outdoor sports and also from CS look at the crowd, we all are hating fangirls who don't know jackshit about the game going in tourny like "Im so nervous .. so I said yes, for me 😭 btw my baby is so good in the matches and super adorable after match 💖 rest well, have a good night my kangbao 💫💘🌙🤲🏻😭🪄👶🏻✨🤏🏻🎀💖🌈".We don't know need that shit we need Buzz trash talking to DRX, we need Johnqt going "NUH UH", we need ZmjjKK giving inspirational quote, we need nAts giving call to his team "Just send it how? send it together!".
THIS WHAT MAKES VALORANT ESPORTS. Thai crowd is pretty good screaming top of their lungs and also WDYM by "alpha male sports stadium type " I have seen female crowd supporting their team. YOU and YOU alone are the calling it sexist , why don't u ask the fangirls coming to support
EDG? not every EDG fan is like that but we are pointing out THE FANGIRLS who are treating ZmjjKK as a idol and this shit only happens on Korea and China where idol culture is popular. Have ever seen TenZ fan doing shit like this? Respectfully try to understand the SPORTS CULTURE. Its not your fav Idol group, IT IS FUCKING SPORT.
see this is a REAL MAN
RAAAAAAHHH 🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺💪💪💪💪💪💪✊✊👹👹👹👹👹👹
ninjaturtle [#102]They expect VCT crowds to be like CSGO crowds where there are only shirtless middle aged men
YES !
Wolfed [#103]see this is a REAL MAN
RAAAAAAHHH 🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺💪💪💪💪💪💪✊✊👹👹👹👹👹👹
Try to use your 1% of your brain to argue instead u are going "see this is a REAL MAN
RAAAAAAHHH 🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺💪💪💪💪💪💪✊✊👹👹👹👹👹👹" and I am expecting this from Paris Crowd :-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uQYeXjkKMg
FiredSkull- [#26]We need to start racist, transphobic, toxic chants like English football chants that Riot will never let that happen.
You sir are a true sigma!
FiredSkull- [#106]Try to use your 1% of your brain to argue instead u are going "see this is a REAL MAN
RAAAAAAHHH 🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺🐺💪💪💪💪💪💪✊✊👹👹👹👹👹👹" and I am expecting this from Paris Crowd :-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uQYeXjkKMg
i do use my brain by not trying to engage you using logic! we just have different opinions and views on tradition, which is fine. i was trolling, trying to offend you, which is my bad. i try to be open-minded to other views, and i just dont agree with this one in particular... i think there is not only 1 way a sport/crowd is 'supposed to be'. culture is always changing and always diverse, which is a beautiful and good thing, in my opinion.
i do agree with you that death threats to players are a bad thing. however, making harmless fan art and engaging with an imagination of an idol isnt the end of the world. in the end, more fans are good for the esports industry, which means we can continue to watch the game and players we both love.
sorry for messing with you, i just dont think a productive conversation is realistic on a platform as this :) have a nice day
Wolfed [#108]i do use my brain by not trying to engage you using logic! we just have different opinions and views on tradition, which is fine. i was trolling, trying to offend you, which is my bad. i try to be open-minded to other views, and i just dont agree with this one in particular... i think there is not only 1 way a sport/crowd is 'supposed to be'. culture is always changing and always diverse, which is a beautiful and good thing, in my opinion.
i do agree with you that death threats to players are a bad thing. however, making harmless fan art and engaging with an imagination of an idol isnt the end of the world. in the end, more fans are good for the esports industry, which means we can continue to watch the game and players we both love.
sorry for messing with you, i just dont think a productive conversation is realistic on a platform as this :) have a nice day
there is no winning in an argument where neither party is listening to the other.
Wolfed [#104]there are so many worse things in the world, let people enjoy what they want
but nothing worst than K-pop stans that pressure someone to -off- their life
HIMNOTHER [#110]but nothing worst than K-pop stans that pressure someone to -off- their life
dawg what
idkbro [#47]https://x.com/chuuballing/status/1893673476889674226 I want Rito to not pander to them for capitalistic reasons, u cant force them not to watch valorant but its not like most of them even know what the agents are called so they might stop if they dont pander to them
the fact zellsis replies to it is wild
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