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Toph_

Surely there’s a conversation to be had that they’re the strongest region currently?

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babysasuke

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Here's the conversation summed up:

"Wow, is China the strongest region rn?"
"No, Americas exists"
"ah shit, you right"

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DaBetz

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xi lai gaming shitstomps entire americas

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Ultime

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g2 would shit on them with ease

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DaBetz

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cope

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Toph_

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More bottom tier Americas teams than china.

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babysasuke

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Any Americas team would place top 3 in any other region

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DELULU

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Prancer

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Drg clears the bottom 6 America's teams

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Toph_

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G2 sure, Sen sure, 100T sure the rest no.

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"Americas Exist, ah shit you're right, but we're not talking about tier 58484"

fatherless revtard

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sideshowsbaldhead

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why do you have a typing quirk lmao

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Ryandr

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Nope still needs to catch up. Especially bottom teams are bit too bad. But the region is improving really fast.

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Toph_

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I don’t think 2G is better than all gamers or Tyloo. Tec at least look competent. Kru looks clueless Furia looks relatively clueless. And the rest of china genuinely just looks good maybe less so on jdg.

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Apac > china >>>> americas >> emea

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🐮

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lsd_abuser

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Robbiebk >> Apac > china >>>> americas >> emea

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Can't wait for Bangkok.

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Jumping to conclusions

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Az3

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If someone say that he must be baiting

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Toph_

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I think it’s a fair take

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Ullyr

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uh vlr and reddit is not ready to have this conversations. It will end with them calling EDG fluke

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Ryandr

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Come-on overhyping edg or china isn't good. It will just create more hate on the region and edg. Same as what happened to prx or primmie.

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Ullyr

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not even overhyping them but when edg been getting hate for like 2 to 3 years and then they won champs and ppl still saying fluke is crazy to me

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Yistyy

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any china team is definitely better than emea's best, but if any of them played an americas team they would get slaughtered.

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Cacachocolat

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That makes america's the worst region because they got farmed by EMEA last year

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Yistyy

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doesn't mean shit unless you have a trophy to show for it. emea's last trophy was masters tokyo 2023.

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DaBetz

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true and thanks to that shit flair

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Schneefeuer11

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No.
Have you seen any team except TE, EDG and XLG play?

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Toph_

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Yes. BLG look solid, DRG look solid, FPX looks solid. Nova has much room for improvement but still look good. And even teams below them aren’t “bad” apart from all gamers and tyloo

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Schneefeuer11

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FPX is everything but Solid

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Toph_

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Elaborate. What are the flaws in FPX that a team like PRX T1 KC FUT and any americas teams that aren’t g2 and sen don’t also have.

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Nachtel

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If you're defining best region by which region has the best team then it's hard to argue against the current world champions

However, if you define it by which region has the highest chance of winning the next masters, then no matter how each individual kickoff match goes, and taking all possible permutations of the two teams going to Bangkok into account, then the best region is the region with the highest number of contender-level teams--which I doubt anyone would give to China.

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Toph_

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Yes I think china has an argument for having the most contenders. BLG EDG DRG Trace FPX and XLG are all great teams. And I think nova is getting up there as well.

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Nachtel

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You think Nova, BLG, and Drg are on the same level as Heretics, G2, Vitality, KC, NRG, and SEN?

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Toph_

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NRG lost to C9… the only reason you have them that high is because of the off season where they had a extremely close game with BLG even then… difference is NRG somehow look worse and BLG look better. XLG nearly beat BLG and also nearly 2-0’d EDG I would confidently put KC over BLG or XLG. DRG have also been playing very well. Thus far I’d only put G2 Sen and Vitality confidently above those teams.

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Hell no

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geospliced

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The conversation's definitely there.

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retard take

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Toph_

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Elaborate

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x_knowitall39_x

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why would anyone think that china is the strongest region. to be a strong region you have to have more than one non-shit team. Im sorry but internationally the 2nd best chinese team wouldnt even be close to cracking into the top 4 in a tourney