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Valorant pros are pussies

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#1
secksyy

They complain about any little change to their precious meta. Agent is more viable than their precious Jett/Raze and they cry on twitter till the devs change it.

Why do they insist on dooming us to Raze/Jett being the only consistently viable picks? Is it them refusing to learn? Is it our fault for listening to the pros too much?

#2
MrBulbe
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who is it this time?

#11
ninjaturtle
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Have you been living under a rock? So many pros were complaining about Neon on Twitter and calling it a dumb agent lol

#16
adi02
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Cause it was dumb

#18
Taruuu1
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maybe because its a tactical shooter with weapon inaccuracy passed 2 shots and while moving but theres an agent who moves faster than lighting mcqueen and has 2 opportunities (plus the 2 kill refresh) each round to be fully accurate while sliding like its Fortnite chapter 3

Also this was only after realizing Neon was broken for a few months imagine the meta after a year of pros grinding Neon

#21
Aayan
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After being terrorised in ranked I think the neon one is valid

#14
secksyy
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I just want the game to feel fresh again :(

#3
KClaw
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I mean u are right buddy obviously , I look at it that league's meta changes way more and yet not much complaining there

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DBStudios
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Isn't that only really because league only has one map while Valorant switches between like 9? I mean if you changed one agent that was in a previous meta it effects every map that agent was used on, if you switch out a map then you gotta switch up the agent pool.

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KClaw
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Dude i know that but like u forgot the fact that league's meta tho has only one map involves like a hundred different items and over 140 champions wherein even a slight change in an item effects leads to people dropping some champion as now it's not that good with the reduced effects or people completely changing the build of the champion which causes direct changes in the play style of the team. Same stuff with buffing or nerfing champions

#7
DBStudios
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Well that's true but then again it's two completely different games and you are basically forced in league to play/learn more agents due to bans while valorant doesn't have that.

#15
Ryandr
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Yet never saw 140 champs played in league pro level. Even with meta changes the champ pool for even top teams fluctuates so less.

#20
KClaw
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Yeah it doesn't fluctuate too much but it's still more compared to valo

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Galactc
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The game is pretty balanced as is people just don't want to innovate besides a few teams and then when they win everyone copies them and doesn't understand how to actually win

#8
EndMePleaseUwU
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what are you talking about bro its been a competitive Scene, Casual fanbase does not exist

#9
Twentytwo
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So you wanna see neon/chamber on every map? Coz that's where neon was heading. If you're talking about that

#10
bees
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She did not need this hard of a nerf though

#12
Twentytwo
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It's just classic riot not knowing how to balance agents

#13
ninjaturtle
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Uhh, no?
Let's take the next map rotation as an example. We have Haven, Lotus, Split, Bind, Pearl, Fracture and Abyss.

Haven and Fracture would've been Neon maps 100%, and that's ok as Jett and Raze also have maps where they are the preferred choice
Bind no chance unless you're like Nongshim or something, Lotus would be 70% Raze and 30% Neon, still a Raze map overall
Abyss would've been a Jett map 100%, maybe you CAN play Neon on Pearl but I would say similar to lotus, 70% Jett and 30% Neon, and finally we have Split, which would be a Raze map.

In total, Neon has like 2.5 maps, Jett has 2 maps and Raze has 2.5 maps. So Neon being 'so busted' like she was wouldn't have made a difference. Instead it would've added VARIETY to the duelist class. But no, we stick to Jett/Raze on every map cuz who gives a shit about variety?

Riot could've just waited until Masters Bangkok ended to nerf Neon, but they decided to nerf her before the season and honestly made her worse than where she was pre-buff. Now there isn't even an INCENTIVE to play Neon over Raze/Jett...

#17
number1_Demon1_fan
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The pro scene is what gives riot want to lean into, so player feedback will not be heard that much. And if they can’t buff too much to avoid power creep they have to nerf down things, so pros just complain because they won’t perform as well. I don’t know if what I said just made sense but yeah pros have trouble with changement, I’m pretty sure the ones that comes from CS complain more

#19
Alpha679
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-A raze can enter using only 2 satchels
-Jetts will use a dash and a smoke
-Neons use their whole kit to enter now and have nothing to deal with a fast flood/retake
i dont think riot actually test the agents updates they do

#22
Aayan
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I broadly agree, a changing meta is what keeps this game unique.
That being said I also think it’s important that pros have the ability to voice their opinions

#23
KClaw
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Tbh it's not that shifting honestly, it shifts but a lot of stuff is same, fade / sova ia still used on most maps while kayo/breach is on the flash roles for much time ,Jett/ raze is the most played duelists, omen/viper is still played a hecking lot + nowadays mostly cypher is played so it's not that changing

#24
cioccolat
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"but neon was toom strong" now she is useless
Yoru can only be played as a secondary initiator, and both Reyna Iso and Phoenix aren't doable, only if it's a "last minute" como change where the enemy team couldn't have prepped

Neon needs her second dash and second stun back

#27
ninjaturtle
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They should've balanced Neon like, take away the sliding accuracy and an extra slide but give her another stun, or something along those lines. At least it would've made her viable AND balanced

#25
Zephyros
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i dont like how tenz and other pros constantly complain abt the game that made them

#26
LordItachi
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They proved themselves so they can do whatever they want or talk shit until they are not causing anyone any harm.
Also I see people complaining about pros complaining about the game.
Also the game didn't made them it was their own effort.

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