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KOI update

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#1
Mortadelo

SergioFerra on stream rn and Anonimotum corroborating in chat

About yesterday, they have sent an offer to another team for a top player that they already tried to sign last year. The player has other offers from better teams but KOI seems like favorites rn. The player is not Sayf, Alive or Fitinho

About the rest of the roster. 3 players are 100% confirmed. Grubinho Sheydos and one of Minny/flyuh, but the other one will probably also be closed soon (that last part is my opinion only). Which means the player they are trying to sign is probably a duelist

Also unrelated but Anonimotum said a couple interesting things

1 Market is crazy rn everyone is bidding for the same couple players
2 Avez was KC’s favorite option since the begging, he thinks KC will be able to sign their preferred option on every position

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Good info and good post but uh you gotta go this hard for k0I?

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how tf Grub0nh0 still in t1

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Skoepdoep2 [#3]

how tf Grub0nh0 still in t1

https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2094/champions-tour-2024-emea-stage-2

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Skoepdoep2 [#5]

https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1998/champions-tour-2024-emea-stage-1
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1925/champions-tour-2024-emea-kickoff

he did well one stage, aside from that very mid/shit

He has 1 outstanding event and 2 above average. You can think what you want about him but saying he doesn't deserve tier 1 is outrageous and straight up baiting

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AstroGalaxy [#2]

Good info and good post but uh you gotta go this hard for k0I?

I would on any team, KOI is just the only team that gives this type of information. What other team is openly talking about their market, when they make an offer, when they have tryouts, when and how they have signed a coach, etc. it's just good content

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Idk who's doing the scouting on Karmine Corp (probably ENGH, I'd think) but they're playing their cards so smart with the people they're trying to pick up. Don't go for the big names everyone is bidding for... go for the undiscovered gems, be the first to reach out to them, and build a young roster with a lot to prove. That's such a good way to build a roster, both for an org (because it costs less) and for the players (they get experience on the highest level and exposure to other orgs to make new deals in future years).

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Skoepdoep2 [#5]

https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1998/champions-tour-2024-emea-stage-1
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1925/champions-tour-2024-emea-kickoff

he did well one stage, aside from that very mid/shit

Still literally the best from KOI

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cloudberry [#8]

Idk who's doing the scouting on Karmine Corp (probably ENGH, I'd think) but they're playing their cards so smart with the people they're trying to pick up. Don't go for the big names everyone is bidding for... go for the undiscovered gems, be the first to reach out to them, and build a young roster with a lot to prove. That's such a good way to build a roster, both for an org (because it costs less) and for the players (they get experience on the highest level and exposure to other orgs to make new deals in future years).

Yeah I really like Engh’s style of scouting and he has proven to be outstanding. I think they will be able to sign 1 or 2 more renowned players tho, Elite maybe, or around that style

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Laundry
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KOI Demon1

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kiyuri
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KOI cNed

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AstroGalaxy [#2]

Good info and good post but uh you gotta go this hard for k0I?

Least biased SEN/NA fan

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BattleCry2010
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KOI Derke

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kalayav_n
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NOW THIS IS PROPER JOURNALISM, props to you man good work!

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Mortadelo [#7]

I would on any team, KOI is just the only team that gives this type of information. What other team is openly talking about their market, when they make an offer, when they have tryouts, when and how they have signed a coach, etc. it's just good content

I respect you so much man, YOU ARE what pusshus1 thinks he is

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Is it Filu?

Polish player, great duelist, had solid performances on DSYRE and MOUZ the year before.

Could be Alexiiik since he had a great season in 2023 with EP, and also has connections with Minny and grubinho since they used to duo IIRC.

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kalayav_n [#15]

NOW THIS IS PROPER JOURNALISM, props to you man good work!

No no bro, I'm just translating for y'all what they said. I don't have any info xD

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Is avez that good??? Better than turks.?

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redlight [#17]

Is it Filu?

Polish player, great duelist, had solid performances on DSYRE and MOUZ the year before.

Could be Alexiiik since he had a great season in 2023 with EP, and also has connections with Minny and grubinho since they used to duo IIRC.

I don't think it's a tier 2 player, although if it is it must be a more sought after player like xeus or something

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Mortadelo [#6]

He has 1 outstanding event and 2 above average. You can think what you want about him but saying he doesn't deserve tier 1 is outrageous and straight up baiting

he doggy shit :)

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toofan1 [#19]

Is avez that good??? Better than turks.?

Apparently Engh thinks so if he was his first option. I like him a lot

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Skoepdoep2 [#21]

he doggy shit :)

bad bait bro

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cyk
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derke is quite popular rn isnt it

#25
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it seems that fans don't understand that a KOI is poor and can't buy S level players... they will never be competitive

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Bog [#25]

it seems that fans don't understand that a KOI is poor and can't buy S level players... they will never be competitive

That's not the situation at all, they're not poor and there is no reason to say they will never be competitive

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Mortadelo [#20]

I don't think it's a tier 2 player, although if it is it must be a more sought after player like xeus or something

Did derke reject KOI?

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catNmouse [#27]

Did derke reject KOI?

According to them, technically not yet, but pretty much yes. Almost every team has tried to go for Derke

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2 Avez was KC’s favorite option since the begging, he thinks KC will be able to sign their preferred option on every position

ty mortadelo 🙏🙏🙏🙏

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Mortadelo [#28]

According to them, technically not yet, but pretty much yes. Almost every team has tried to go for Derke

Damn… sounds like we won’t get derke news any time soon

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catNmouse [#30]

Damn… sounds like we won’t get derke news any time soon

We'll see, I think NRG and VIT are the 2 options and if VIT is moving rn might mean news soon, idk

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I don't see much player possible maybe it's Ardiis since he was FA last year and is still in a team rn (they talked about sending an offer to a team ) he's restricted fa so still under contract with Navi . I thought about elllement too but i don't know what was his situation last year.

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Mortadelo [#31]

We'll see, I think NRG and VIT are the 2 options and if VIT is moving rn might mean news soon, idk

I guess he’s not that interested in G2

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catNmouse [#33]

I guess he’s not that interested in G2

I mean G2 could be an option 2, but being on an ascension team is never attractive

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Skoepdoep2 [#3]

how tf Grub0nh0 still in t1

Flag + name + stars

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Raillkeurs [#32]

I don't see much player possible maybe it's Ardiis since he was FA last year and is still in a team rn (they talked about sending an offer to a team ) he's restricted fa so still under contract with Navi . I thought about elllement too but i don't know what was his situation last year.

Yeah that kinda is the only name that makes sense I can think of

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Mortadelo [#34]

I mean G2 could be an option 2, but being on an ascension team is never attractive

Yea it makes sense because they could miss out an extra year of their slot

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Hades_Loves_Rb
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KOI Demon1 actually happening

#39
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Hades_Loves_Rb [#38]

KOI Demon1 actually happening

"The player has other offers from better teams but KOI seems like favorites rn. "
... could it be?

#40
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The player is not Sayf, Alive or Fitinho

My disappointment Is immeasurable and my day is ruined
Hes not gonna get stuck in t2 again... right.... even with no buyout this time around.... riiiiight?!

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Mortadelo [#26]

That's not the situation at all, they're not poor and there is no reason to say they will never be competitive

they are bad at every game they compete in... and yes, they have no project or money compared to large organizations

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Bog [#41]

they are bad at every game they compete in... and yes, they have no project or money compared to large organizations

Qualified for the last CS Major
Qualified for Worlds
Top 5th-8th in the World in COD
Top 5th-8th in the World in TFT
Top 2 team in the World in OW

Matter of fact very few orgs as successful ad them in so many games rn. Valorant is the only game where things aren't going well matter of fact, and it's not because of money, it was an external situation that didn't allow them to sign anyone last off season. If you look at their previous roster it was actually a very big project money wise and expectation wise

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Targu1n [#40]

The player is not Sayf, Alive or Fitinho

My disappointment Is immeasurable and my day is ruined
Hes not gonna get stuck in t2 again... right.... even with no buyout this time around.... riiiiight?!

Most likely yes, but this time if he does it will actually be because there simply were better options

#44
number1_cned_hater
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do you know where n4rrate is going mortadelo

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Mortadelo
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number1_cned_hater [#44]

do you know where n4rrate is going mortadelo

NA but no clue where

#46
number1_cned_hater
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Mortadelo [#45]

NA but no clue where

wow, so KC aren't gonna try keeping him?

#47
catNmouse
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Mortadelo [#45]

NA but no clue where

did anonimotum say anything about KC?

#48
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I wouldn't be surprised if Avez was a ze1sh recommendation at first.
At least when Ze1sh was the assistant coach of vitality, shalaby got an opportunity although it was short lived.

MENA is super undervalued in terms of prospects, hopefully moh got some trials (although i havent heard much)

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number1_cned_hater [#46]

wow, so KC aren't gonna try keeping him?

He is FA, I don't think there's much they can do

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catNmouse [#47]

did anonimotum say anything about KC?

2 Avez was KC’s favorite option since the begging, he thinks KC will be able to sign their preferred option on every position

#51
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number1_cned_hater [#44]

do you know where n4rrate is going mortadelo

sen

#52
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Mortadelo [#18]

No no bro, I'm just translating for y'all what they said. I don't have any info xD

doesnt matter man i respect your work!

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kalayav_n [#52]

doesnt matter man i respect your work!

ty man

#54
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Mortadelo [#42]

Qualified for the last CS Major
Qualified for Worlds
Top 5th-8th in the World in COD
Top 5th-8th in the World in TFT
Top 2 team in the World in OW

Matter of fact very few orgs as successful ad them in so many games rn. Valorant is the only game where things aren't going well matter of fact, and it's not because of money, it was an external situation that didn't allow them to sign anyone last off season. If you look at their previous roster it was actually a very big project money wise and expectation wise

Lol
they don't have any trophy tierS in any modality... they're not even in the top30 biggest organizations in the world...

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Mortadelo [#6]

He has 1 outstanding event and 2 above average. You can think what you want about him but saying he doesn't deserve tier 1 is outrageous and straight up baiting

Tu inglés es tan bueno que me cuesta creer que seas español

#56
Mortadelo
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PamelaChu [#55]

Tu inglés es tan bueno que me cuesta creer que seas español

Yo tambien me equivoco bastante. Pero bueno he vivido fuera de España un tiempo

#57
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catNmouse [#23]

bad bait bro

i think he is tho so :)

#58
Mortadelo
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Skoepdoep2 [#57]

i think he is tho so :)

Alright then I'll answer your original question

how tf Grub0nh0 still in t1

Because everyone thinks he is good

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Mortadelo
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Bog [#54]

Lol
they don't have any trophy tierS in any modality... they're not even in the top30 biggest organizations in the world...

Your first 2 statements are so wrong you need to change the goalposts. But yes, they haven't won a trophy yet, doesn't mean they ain't successful and have money

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Mortadelo [#50]

2 Avez was KC’s favorite option since the begging, he thinks KC will be able to sign their preferred option on every position

correction; N4RRATE

mb xD

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Mortadelo
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catNmouse [#60]

correction; N4RRATE

mb xD

No, he did not

#62
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Mortadelo [#49]

He is FA, I don't think there's much they can do

Unofficially FA? I think they should just announce it tbh

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Mortadelo
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catNmouse [#62]

Unofficially FA? I think they should just announce it tbh

His contract ends this year, that is public information

#64
Skoepdoep2
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kanyefan4238173 [#35]

Flag + name + stars

oh no no buddy. i was recently told by a lot of people that you cant use flags to insult someone!

also this aint my actual account kinda,i had one w max stars but idk which twitch account its on :)

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Mortadelo [#58]

Alright then I'll answer your original question

how tf Grub0nh0 still in t1

Because everyone thinks he is good

still all you did was show stats. Every time i bring up stats people say stats dont mean shit

so you prove nmothing

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Skoepdoep2 [#65]

still all you did was show stats. Every time i bring up stats people say stats dont mean shit

so you prove nmothing

We don't have to agree if he is good or not, you asked why he is in tier 1. And the answer is people think he is good, you can look around the thread and see that is definitely the case

#67
Jivko
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Mortadelo spreadsheet when

#68
Lugnam
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Mortadelo [#36]

Yeah that kinda is the only name that makes sense I can think of

Ardiis is a great player but that would mean KOI wouldnt have a good Raze/Neon player, no?

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start making your own spreadsheets youd do well ngl on twitter your only competition is r0cketb0llets

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Guess KC did get their first option lmao

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cloudberry [#8]

Idk who's doing the scouting on Karmine Corp (probably ENGH, I'd think) but they're playing their cards so smart with the people they're trying to pick up. Don't go for the big names everyone is bidding for... go for the undiscovered gems, be the first to reach out to them, and build a young roster with a lot to prove. That's such a good way to build a roster, both for an org (because it costs less) and for the players (they get experience on the highest level and exposure to other orgs to make new deals in future years).

lol this is so ironic, they got saadhak

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cloudberry
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kafkae [#71]

lol this is so ironic, they got saadhak

Yeah I wrote this like 3-4 hours before the announcement 😭
I'm not complaining though, Saadhak is my goat, if there's anyone who can lead a team like Karmine Corp in the server it's him

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Mortadelo [#66]

We don't have to agree if he is good or not, you asked why he is in tier 1. And the answer is people think he is good, you can look around the thread and see that is definitely the case

i'd like to apologise i was thinking of f1thino or something like that. He's the poopstar i didnt like my bad

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Skoepdoep2 [#73]

i'd like to apologise i was thinking of f1thino or something like that. He's the poopstar i didnt like my bad

lmao

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