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Is Vyse actually good?

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#1
DuD5K1S

I haven't played the game in a month.
Is she like good or something?

#2
kyro1
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yep

#3
geometrix
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she aight on defense but attack i got no fucking clue what to do with her mollies ngl

#5
akcolade
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The mollies i guess can be used as post plant stall but yeah they arent that good

#19
K4ziuHa
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Using it as a pp tool is the worst advice I've heard in my life

#31
flexrenji
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its literally the only thing you cant use it for.

amazing combo util with any other dmg ability (raze,kayo,sova,gekko,breach)

#32
Akukko
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theyre really good with stalling retake on chokepoints

#40
K4ziuHa
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they?

#41
itoenbarleytea
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there’s 2 of them

#33
charleser
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You'd be surprised. It successfully stalls.

#15
bronzil_enjoyer
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u can use the molly with another molly like viper brim sova or kj molly on attack

#18
Cheasle2
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the mollies are insane, chuck them into smokes and the defenders can't flood while you take site

#20
BoF7ooM
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it has a large radium. If you spam them at back site and can manage to activate it quick enough, the player at backsite is pretty much fucked if they can't shoot it fast enough. Also, even if it is shot, you will get info that someones back site. You can follow it up with initiator util or your own flash.

#25
number1_Demon1_fan
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The mollies on attack you can use them against floods or retake just place them on choke points when you entry and when they start using until

#4
nihso
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She's mid icl.
She's a good mommy tho

#6
I_LOVE_LESS
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she's like a deadlock situation where u dont really want her as the solo senti because of lack of flank info but she's pretty solid

#7
Laundry
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does the wall not give flank info?

#8
I_LOVE_LESS
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it does but its only one and they get can either just run past it and be on ur flank fast or bait it and lurk somewhere else so its not that good
also doesnt show u which agent like a cypher trip or anything or where they exactly are

#36
cloudberry
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Doesn't an alarmbot do basically the same thing though

#38
I_LOVE_LESS
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no because it chases towards the enemy and gives you additional info like what gun they have if they break it

#21
BoF7ooM
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she's honestly a lot better than deadlock imo

#24
MagP
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deadlock is like the worst agent in the game tho

#26
Pototo
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chamber worse

#30
kalayav_n
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?

#44
BoF7ooM
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yeah but the general feeling about vyse initally was that it would be shit like deadlock

#45
Pototo
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i'd say its on par with deadlock and sage but better than chamber

Cypher /Killjoy >> vyse/sage/deadlock >> literally any other agent used as a sentinel >>> chamber

#9
LocoMonteiro
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the worst agent on attack side BY FAR....on defense she can be good but its a bit tough to play her well

#10
Itsover
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Picking vyse as a solo senti is a troll move, Cypher/KJ are better at their respective maps.

#11
Senfanboy
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Pretty fun honestly. The wall is decent for flank watch but imo is best used for postplant to cut up retakes. Best played with another senti, but not the end of the world to play as a solo senti

#12
Bluelive
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Only use her at bind and I can say that shes pretty useful on that map, except for the wall which was a bit underwhelming

#13
grisx23
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I mean
She is too balanced for her own good lmao
KJ = Cypher > Deadlock > Sage = Vyse

Not even gonna bother with Chamber

#34
Uribaba
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Better than sage

#14
SuperRoss
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Meh, her util isn't that great at holding flank,
Still i don't think there's a single piece of her kit i wouldn't at least call good

#16
aggressivelyholdingangles
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She's not that fun to play. On attack her utils are terrible, defense its aight kinda mid

#17
KOMPOSTO
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she is basically a better sage, but kj/cypher/chamber are still better

#22
C0nfedant
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she has deadly b site sunset hold

#23
SnorlaxEnjoyer
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Shit on attack good on defence that too on certain maps

#27
highlyte
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her wall + spikes = impossible to reach the site, but it’s difficult to play as her in attack

#28
Anguibok
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In resume of this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrYtWrxIO1Y

They are some debate around her, I personally think the is the new Skye,,

Skye was doing vision and flash job, allowing the double smoke meta (without having to sacrifice the duelist and the sentinel)
Vyse do sentinel and flash job, allowing the double smoke meta (without having to sacrifice the duelist and the reveal)

Sure she is not as good as keeping flank in attack, but since 0 sentinel are already strong (Bind, GEN Breeze, EDG Lotus, EDG Abyss), you dont need a real sentinel to have a good compo, so she is in a perfect niche.

She may not be the best attacker agent, but it seems she is the best attacker sentinel, and her trap in defense maybe as good as other sentinel.

Conclusion : Her kit is mid, but she is in a perfect niche that will make her pickrate go to the moon, if Val was a 6v6 they would probably not be picked, but in 5v5 having an agent that can do 2 things is OP as fuck

Double smoke meta is, to me, inevitable, so if Vyze is too strong, the best solution will be to up Skye

PS : Stop wanting to play doble sentinel, thats an horrible team comp, lack of firepower in atk, Sage doble sentinel is ok because she isnt really a sentinel, was never played as a sentinel on fixBP or on keeping flank, and her kit is better in atk than in def, but other doble sentinel pick are 31 times, on 2208 composition in 2024 with 45% WR

#29
CarnageBTC
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Imo u need a second senti so that on attack the second senti can watch flanks and u can use vyse as backup initiator on attack

#35
snowconedeity
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Vyse is incredible, i think people just need to get out of their head that all sentinels have to handle flank, i mean Sage doesn’t. so i dont think she will replace Cypher or KJ, but on maps like Split she could, (her wall mid is pretty good). Imo shes got the unique ability to separate execs better than any agent, and on attack her razorvines in a smoke go crazy (no flood retakes). Plus her flash is insanelh strong for info. She’s probably the third best sentinel in the game and in certain situations I think she could be the best

#37
Anguibok
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Sage isnt a Sentinel, Vyze can cover flank, Sage dont.

If she not replace Cyph and KJ, she wont be play, 2 sentinel are horrible comp

#39
SunnyFromVLR
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The expectations was not met tbh, she looked mega broken with the ult etc but after seeing it in ranked meh. maybe shes good on lotus but other than that cypher clears

#42
DuD5K1S
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I ain't reading allat, can someone give me a tl;dr?

#43
Tranz1sta
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i am so lost on attack playing vyse

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