I haven't played the game in a month.
Is she like good or something?
geometrix [#3]she aight on defense but attack i got no fucking clue what to do with her mollies ngl
The mollies i guess can be used as post plant stall but yeah they arent that good
I_LOVE_LESS [#6]she's like a deadlock situation where u dont really want her as the solo senti because of lack of flank info but she's pretty solid
does the wall not give flank info?
Laundry [#7]does the wall not give flank info?
it does but its only one and they get can either just run past it and be on ur flank fast or bait it and lurk somewhere else so its not that good
also doesnt show u which agent like a cypher trip or anything or where they exactly are
geometrix [#3]she aight on defense but attack i got no fucking clue what to do with her mollies ngl
u can use the molly with another molly like viper brim sova or kj molly on attack
geometrix [#3]she aight on defense but attack i got no fucking clue what to do with her mollies ngl
the mollies are insane, chuck them into smokes and the defenders can't flood while you take site
akcolade [#5]The mollies i guess can be used as post plant stall but yeah they arent that good
Using it as a pp tool is the worst advice I've heard in my life
geometrix [#3]she aight on defense but attack i got no fucking clue what to do with her mollies ngl
it has a large radium. If you spam them at back site and can manage to activate it quick enough, the player at backsite is pretty much fucked if they can't shoot it fast enough. Also, even if it is shot, you will get info that someones back site. You can follow it up with initiator util or your own flash.
I_LOVE_LESS [#6]she's like a deadlock situation where u dont really want her as the solo senti because of lack of flank info but she's pretty solid
she's honestly a lot better than deadlock imo
BoF7ooM [#21]she's honestly a lot better than deadlock imo
deadlock is like the worst agent in the game tho
geometrix [#3]she aight on defense but attack i got no fucking clue what to do with her mollies ngl
The mollies on attack you can use them against floods or retake just place them on choke points when you entry and when they start using until
In resume of this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrYtWrxIO1Y
They are some debate around her, I personally think the is the new Skye,,
Skye was doing vision and flash job, allowing the double smoke meta (without having to sacrifice the duelist and the sentinel)
Vyse do sentinel and flash job, allowing the double smoke meta (without having to sacrifice the duelist and the reveal)
Sure she is not as good as keeping flank in attack, but since 0 sentinel are already strong (Bind, GEN Breeze, EDG Lotus, EDG Abyss), you dont need a real sentinel to have a good compo, so she is in a perfect niche.
She may not be the best attacker agent, but it seems she is the best attacker sentinel, and her trap in defense maybe as good as other sentinel.
Conclusion : Her kit is mid, but she is in a perfect niche that will make her pickrate go to the moon, if Val was a 6v6 they would probably not be picked, but in 5v5 having an agent that can do 2 things is OP as fuck
Double smoke meta is, to me, inevitable, so if Vyze is too strong, the best solution will be to up Skye
PS : Stop wanting to play doble sentinel, thats an horrible team comp, lack of firepower in atk, Sage doble sentinel is ok because she isnt really a sentinel, was never played as a sentinel on fixBP or on keeping flank, and her kit is better in atk than in def, but other doble sentinel pick are 31 times, on 2208 composition in 2024 with 45% WR
K4ziuHa [#19]Using it as a pp tool is the worst advice I've heard in my life
its literally the only thing you cant use it for.
amazing combo util with any other dmg ability (raze,kayo,sova,gekko,breach)
K4ziuHa [#19]Using it as a pp tool is the worst advice I've heard in my life
theyre really good with stalling retake on chokepoints
K4ziuHa [#19]Using it as a pp tool is the worst advice I've heard in my life
You'd be surprised. It successfully stalls.
grisx23 [#13]I mean
She is too balanced for her own good lmao
KJ = Cypher > Deadlock > Sage = VyseNot even gonna bother with Chamber
Better than sage
Vyse is incredible, i think people just need to get out of their head that all sentinels have to handle flank, i mean Sage doesn’t. so i dont think she will replace Cypher or KJ, but on maps like Split she could, (her wall mid is pretty good). Imo shes got the unique ability to separate execs better than any agent, and on attack her razorvines in a smoke go crazy (no flood retakes). Plus her flash is insanelh strong for info. She’s probably the third best sentinel in the game and in certain situations I think she could be the best
I_LOVE_LESS [#8]it does but its only one and they get can either just run past it and be on ur flank fast or bait it and lurk somewhere else so its not that good
also doesnt show u which agent like a cypher trip or anything or where they exactly are
Doesn't an alarmbot do basically the same thing though
snowconedeity [#35]Vyse is incredible, i think people just need to get out of their head that all sentinels have to handle flank, i mean Sage doesn’t. so i dont think she will replace Cypher or KJ, but on maps like Split she could, (her wall mid is pretty good). Imo shes got the unique ability to separate execs better than any agent, and on attack her razorvines in a smoke go crazy (no flood retakes). Plus her flash is insanelh strong for info. She’s probably the third best sentinel in the game and in certain situations I think she could be the best
Sage isnt a Sentinel, Vyze can cover flank, Sage dont.
If she not replace Cyph and KJ, she wont be play, 2 sentinel are horrible comp
cloudberry [#36]Doesn't an alarmbot do basically the same thing though
no because it chases towards the enemy and gives you additional info like what gun they have if they break it
MagP [#24]deadlock is like the worst agent in the game tho
yeah but the general feeling about vyse initally was that it would be shit like deadlock
BoF7ooM [#44]yeah but the general feeling about vyse initally was that it would be shit like deadlock
i'd say its on par with deadlock and sage but better than chamber
Cypher /Killjoy >> vyse/sage/deadlock >> literally any other agent used as a sentinel >>> chamber