It is between GENG, TH and SEN
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Nef0r0 [#2]sentinels winning champs this year propells them into a debate for the most successful year in valorant, so you can really only come to the conclusion after champs
In fact, SEN for me can only be one if it wins.
Aayan [#5]tbh if TH win its them, if SEN win its them, and if LEV/EDG win it's GENG for me
hey i didn't even read this and had the same take :)
Nef0r0 [#2]sentinels winning champs this year propells them into a debate for the most successful year in valorant, so you can really only come to the conclusion after champs
fnc still had a better run
Zerphyr1 [#12]fnc still had a better run
lockin was mickey mouse and they didnt win champs. IF sen win champs here they own fnatics fraud year
cobalt21312 [#15]fnc didn't win champs
They still didnt miss any events tho, sen didnt even make shanghai
Mozzarellas [#16]They still didnt miss any events tho, sen didnt even make shanghai
i'd argue winning a champs and masters should be valued over masters and lockin tbh.
Mozzarellas [#16]They still didnt miss any events tho, sen didnt even make shanghai
Winning champions and a masters same year is too insane bro no one has ever done that not even in different years
lxd1o_o [#10]if Lev win
Geng
Lev
THTh win
th
geng
senSen win
Sen
geng
thEdg win
Geng
edg
Th
Facts
Mozzarellas [#16]They still didnt miss any events tho, sen didnt even make shanghai
masters madrid ?
Demon1_The_GOAT [#13]Crazy how its already been a year after EG winning 2023. Time flies by so omega fast damn.
2023 EG would literally curb stomp any champs team rn besides maybe TH or LEV
CanadaMan [#6]I think the Champs winner will decide. If Sen win then Sen, if Heretics win the Heretics, if neither than its GenG. (in my opinion)
why tf is mine getting down voted but someone that said the same exact thing got the most upvotes out of all the damn replies?
CanadaMan [#24]why tf is mine getting down voted but someone that said the same exact thing got the most upvotes out of all the damn replies?
Don't worry I'll give you an upvote CanadaMan <3
DeyahAlAjarma [#7]TEC
I'm sure many China viewers (including myself) had decently high expectations for the team. Beating BLG in 2023 while only being around for a month was a statement that they just couldn't deliver when it came down to the VCT league. Most disappointing team in China.
Mozzarellas [#16]They still didnt miss any events tho, sen didnt even make shanghai
They didn't have to qual for Lock-In. Both SEN and FNC qualed for 2 events in their respective years
lxd1o_o [#10]if Lev win
Geng
Lev
THTh win
th
geng
senSen win
Sen
geng
thEdg win
Geng
edg
Th
if EDG wins Champs
GenG
EDG
SEN
get TH outta here
masonhil [#30]They didn't have to qual for Lock-In. Both SEN and FNC qualed for 2 events in their respective years
what is that logic
Zerphyr1 [#32]what is that logic
Every single team attended Lock-In, 8 attended Madrid. It's easier to not miss any events when you are automatically invited. What's hard to understand?
masonhil [#34]Every single team attended Lock-In, 8 attended Madrid. It's easier to not miss any events when you are automatically invited. What's hard to understand?
omg, ur actually not baiting
seofps [#23]2023 EG would literally curb stomp any champs team rn besides maybe TH or LEV
I think they can easily take TH and LEV tbh lol not being biased btw
Demon1_The_GOAT [#36]I think they can easily take TH and LEV tbh lol not being biased btw
If EG stayed together LEV would not have c0m and the NZR shit would still happen, so the most likely move would pick verno for stage 2.
EG would not win against LEV with Verno.
Hyssopus1 [#37]If EG stayed together LEV would not have c0m and the NZR shit would still happen, so the most likely move would pick verno for stage 2.
EG would not win against LEV with Verno.
Verno is not going to LEV buddy
lxd1o_o [#10]if Lev win
Geng
Lev
THTh win
th
geng
senSen win
Sen
geng
thEdg win
Geng
edg
Th
if edg win then 2. th 3. edg
Demon1_The_GOAT [#38]Verno is not going to LEV buddy
i hope not we don't need him right now, i'm just showing you that in a world where EG stayed together there would be better teams.
Zerphyr1 [#35]omg, ur actually not baiting
Don't know what to tell you man. If I had to choose between FNC's year or SEN's (if they won Champs), I'd choose SEN's every time. Masters + Champs, even if you missed an event, is much better than Lock-In + Masters, even if you qualled for 2 events.
masonhil [#41]Don't know what to tell you man. If I had to choose between FNC's year or SEN's (if they won Champs), I'd choose SEN's every time. Masters + Champs, even if you missed an event, is much better than Lock-In + Masters, even if you qualled for 2 events.
1st, 1st, 4th
Or
1st, 12th+, 1st
which is better?
Zerphyr1 [#43]1st, 1st, 4th
Or
1st, 12th+, 1stwhich is better?
FNC won 100,000 for Lock-In. EG won 1,000,000 from Champs.
If you can't tell the difference, that's your problem. I'll take the 2nd option every single time
SomeoneLikeU [#11]Why does everyone have TH so high on these lists? If they win champs then fair they can be in the conversation but until then they are a tier below SEN and GenG.
right… where’s geng in playoffs?
https://www.vlr.gg/378664/gen-g-vs-team-heretics-valorant-champions-2024-winners-b
the two teams geng lost to made it to the inspire arena/top 4, suck it up
masonhil [#44]FNC won 100,000 for Lock-In. EG won 1,000,000 from Champs.
If you can't tell the difference, that's your problem. I'll take the 2nd option every single time
?
The topic is who had the best run, not who won the most prize money. Arguably every international determines the current best team, champions only holds the highest glory since it is the most prestigious. It is as "easy" to win champs as it is to win any masters, they both require the same criteria, which is to be the best in the world at the time. If SEN win champs, they are technically more decorated and have had the best year in terms of trophies. However, FNATIC got back-to-back international trophy wins as well as a top 4th placement. SEN will objectively have had a more inconsistent and flawed run, they literally got knocked out first round in their regional lol. So unless you're a dumbass, it's quite easy to determine FNATIC's run in 2023 is still on top, even if SEN win champs this year.
Hope this helps!
tjabo [#46]?
The topic is who had the best run, not who won the most prize money. Arguably every international determines the current best team, champions only holds the highest glory since it is the most prestigious. It is as "easy" to win champs as it is to win any masters, they both require the same criteria, which is to be the best in the world at the time. If SEN win champs, they are technically more decorated and have had the best year in terms of trophies. However, FNATIC got back-to-back international trophy wins as well as a top 4th placement. SEN will objectively have had a more inconsistent and flawed run, they literally got knocked out first round in their regional lol. So unless you're a dumbass, it's quite easy to determine FNATIC's run in 2023 is still on top, even if SEN win champs this year.
Hope this helps!
You have to weight the significance of each tournament when deciding which run is best. Not every tournament is created equal, nor is every trophy. SEN won a handful of international offseason events before the year started, but nobody cares about those trophies because their prizepool and prestige is low. Similarly Lock-In, doesn't matter as much as champs. FNC failed at the final, most important hurdle. In the grand scheme of things, people will remember who won Champs and Masters, they won't remember who got 4th or even who didn't qual.
I'll reiterate: if I had to pick a year, I would go with one that involved winning a masters and a champs worth 10x Lock-In. So would you, if given the choice.
Hope this helps!
FlaymeFenix [#14]lockin was mickey mouse and they didnt win champs. IF sen win champs here they own fnatics fraud year
Bro SEN didn’t even qualify to Shanghai + haven’t even won champs yet
Humble yourself mega biased SEN fan
masonhil [#47]You have to weight the significance of each tournament when deciding which run is best. Not every tournament is created equal, nor is every trophy. SEN won a handful of international offseason events before the year started, but nobody cares about those trophies because their prizepool and prestige is low. Similarly Lock-In, doesn't matter as much as champs. FNC failed at the final, most important hurdle. In the grand scheme of things, people will remember who won Champs and Masters, they won't remember who got 4th or even who didn't qual.
I'll reiterate: if I had to pick a year, I would go with one that involved winning a masters and a champs worth 10x Lock-In. So would you, if given the choice.
Hope this helps!
Yeah, no one cares about them because they were invitationals? We are on the topic of international tournament that objectively decide the best team itw, not some invitational made for content. Also, love how you are talking as if FNATIC didn't win a masters? No sorry, I meant absolutely dominate a masters only dropping a single map. SEN have so far had a good year in Madrid, and Seoul (so far), but for Madrid they had to do a lower bracket run, and they only qualified for Seoul due to the fact they were in peak form during kick-off/Madrid and were able to get a 6 point head start out of any team in Americas.
They then went on to have a shit Stage 1, resulting in not qualifying for Shanghai, and then after that, have an OK Stage 2 to pull through to Champs via points. Meanwhile in 2023, FNATIC only lost a single regional match, no LOCK//IN matches, and no Masters Tokyo matches. They went flawless against EG, who in your opinion must have had a better year, since they won Champs, right? FNATIC only bummed out of Champs because they kept losing to LOUD, who was their kryptonite for some reason.
FNATIC's series record in 2023 was 24-3 (88.9% WR), only losing to TL (choking EMEA GF) and 2x losses to LOUD in Champs. SEN are currently at 20-10 (66.7% WR). Like I said, if you had actually read my post, SEN (if they win Champs 2024) will have had a better year in terms of trophies. But, no matter how SEN do in Seoul, FNATIC's run will objectively have been better, and if you disagree you are intellectually challenged.
Hope this helps, American!
geospliced [#27]I'm sure many China viewers (including myself) had decently high expectations for the team. Beating BLG in 2023 while only being around for a month was a statement that they just couldn't deliver when it came down to the VCT league. Most disappointing team in China.
Most disappointing Chinese team gotta be wolves for me. Superstar roster full of underrated players that were all insane on bum teams coming together, and a decent showing in kickoff. For them to be as bad as they were for majority of the year is really a shame cause that roster could’ve fought for top 3 if they got it right
tjabo [#49]Yeah, no one cares about them because they were invitationals? We are on the topic of international tournament that objectively decide the best team itw, not some invitational made for content. Also, love how you are talking as if FNATIC didn't win a masters? No sorry, I meant absolutely dominate a masters only dropping a single map. SEN have so far had a good year in Madrid, and Seoul (so far), but for Madrid they had to do a lower bracket run, and they only qualified for Seoul due to the fact they were in peak form during kick-off/Madrid and were able to get a 6 point head start out of any team in Americas.
They then went on to have a shit Stage 1, resulting in not qualifying for Shanghai, and then after that, have an OK Stage 2 to pull through to Champs via points. Meanwhile in 2023, FNATIC only lost a single regional match, no LOCK//IN matches, and no Masters Tokyo matches. They went flawless against EG, who in your opinion must have had a better year, since they won Champs, right? FNATIC only bummed out of Champs because they kept losing to LOUD, who was their kryptonite for some reason.
FNATIC's series record in 2023 was 24-3 (88.9% WR), only losing to TL (choking EMEA GF) and 2x losses to LOUD in Champs. SEN are currently at 20-10 (66.7% WR). Like I said, if you had actually read my post, SEN (if they win Champs 2024) will have had a better year in terms of trophies. But, no matter how SEN do in Seoul, FNATIC's run will objectively have been better, and if you disagree you are intellectually challenged.
Hope this helps, American!
You can write essays, but if you had the choice, you'd take a Masters + Champs over a Masters + Lock-In
lxd1o_o [#10]if Lev win
Geng
Lev
THTh win
th
geng
senSen win
Sen
geng
thEdg win
Geng
edg
Th
If LEV or EDG win then have SEN>TH and if TH win have GenG>TH other than that I agree.
masonhil [#51]You can write essays, but if you had the choice, you'd take a Masters + Champs over a Masters + Lock-In
How can you be a native English speaker, yet so illiterate? I quite literally said that if SEN win champs they will have had the better year?? I just said FNATIC's run and overall performance was better. I hate to bring in regions but jesus christ you're just yet another American allergic to education lol.
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