is it just me or kobe is literally the most overrated player of all time. He’s like barely top 10 and everyone puts him like top 3-5
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laeDLaer [#10]how was he not cancelled? like sinatraa
because everyone hates rapists till its someone they like
laeDLaer [#10]how was he not cancelled? like sinatraa
he refused to testify then then did a civil dispute ( him paying her off ) and media wasnt as popular back then so but his biggest haters know all about it , kobe still a top 10 player tho F.s
Hades_Loves_Rb [#14]I mean I geuss, hes def in the top 10 but not high
in no order
Jordan
Lebron
Steph
Shaq
Rb
Kareem
Kobe
Scalabrine
Tatum (we did it)
James JR.
Rb not even top 3 ???!
cristiadu [#17]don't be a dick cmon man
respect and reality are two different things. its ok to think someone who died wasnt the best or even good at something. i think you need to learn that it isnt disrespectful when you comment on or have an opinion on someone who is now dead.
WalmartTenz [#13]Saying he's barely top 10 is kinda crazy
IMO, he barely makes the top 10 and it's certainly close to me as I can easily see other players taking his spot. To me, he's not even a top 5 player to have ever put on the lakers jersey imo. Shaq, Magic, Kareem, Wilt, and Lebron (by the way, I'm talking about their careers as a whole and not just their stint as a laker). Kobe's really good, but a bit overrated.
AltonBu02 [#19]IMO, he barely makes the top 10 and it's certainly close to me as I can easily see other players taking his spot. To me, he's not even a top 5 player to have ever put on the lakers jersey imo. Shaq, Magic, Kareem, Wilt, and Lebron (by the way, I'm talking about their careers as a whole and not just their stint as a laker). Kobe's really good, but a bit overrated.
Ig I can see him being overrated, and I also don't think he's a top 5 player. But he's still 7 or 6 in my eyes.
jimjam789 [#21]I genuinely think kd steph lebron are better than kobe
Not only that I genuinely think kobe is better than mj considering the comp and quality of play mj faced
Take that as you will but I just think players have gotten better over time
kd has the most talent oat
Zaylan [#3]It’s just you
Genuinely, how is he top 3-5. He's not better than Wilt, Kareem, Bill Russell, Shaq, Magic, Bird, and Duncan. Kobe and Hakeem is debatable. He's in the lower half of top 10 for sure and that was a popular sentiment before his death. It was only until after his death that some people started putting him at top 3-5; it boosted his hype so much that some even started saying he was the greatest of all time.
WalmartTenz [#22]Ig I can see him being overrated, and I also don't think he's a top 5 player. But he's still 7 or 6 in my eyes.
that's respectable and fair. I only think he's overrated when people put him right next to players like lebron and jordan.
jimjam789 [#21]I genuinely think kd steph lebron are better than kobe
Not only that I genuinely think kobe is better than mj considering the comp and quality of play mj faced
Take that as you will but I just think players have gotten better over time
We are talking about the greatest players of all time, not the best players. They are different things.
AltonBu02 [#26]We are talking about the greatest players of all time, not the best players. They are different things.
dont forget kd is the best player oat tho
AltonBu02 [#25]that's respectable and fair. I only think he's overrated when people put him right next to players like lebron and jordan.
Yea those people are either fan boys, or are just don't know anything about basketball. I'm a casual fan, but even I know that there's at least 5 players greater than him. I do think he's a top 5 talent of the game.
WalmartTenz [#28]Yea those people are either fan boys, or are just don't know anything about basketball. I'm a casual fan, but even I know that there's at least 5 players greater than him. I do think he's a top 5 talent of the game.
top 5 talent is even more crazy that top 5 greatest
Hades_Loves_Rb [#14]I mean I geuss, hes def in the top 10 but not high
in no order
Jordan
Lebron
Steph
Shaq
Rb
Kareem
Kobe
Scalabrine
Tatum (we did it)
James JR.
You are forgetting the White Mamba, Brian Scalabrine
FDWC- [#32]alot of player clears kobe
Lebron
Jordan
Shaq
Kareem
Magic
Duncan
Bird
KD
Hakeem
Steph
Jokiclets be fr now
Lebron 🤣
AltonBu02 [#24]Genuinely, how is he top 3-5. He's not better than Wilt, Kareem, Bill Russell, Shaq, Magic, Bird, and Duncan. Kobe and Hakeem is debatable. He's in the lower half of top 10 for sure and that was a popular sentiment before his death. It was only until after his death that some people started putting him at top 3-5; it boosted his hype so much that some even started saying he was the greatest of all time.
you're just going along with the narratives. you've never seen wilt or bill play, and i doubt you've even watched full games of kareem, bird, etc., except for that documentary
thanatos11 [#23]kd has the most talent oat
i'd argue offensively, yeah, other than that its a hell nah
endless1 [#36]you're just going along with the narratives. you've never seen wilt or bill play, and i doubt you've even watched full games of kareem, bird, etc., except for that documentary
That's a lot of assumptions you just made. I've watched a few full games of each of the players I listed except for Wilt and Bill Russell, whom I've only saw clips of. Keep in mind this is the greatest NBA players of all time list, not who I considered to be the most talented or skilled. Just who was the greatest in their era. Every era will have more talented players than the last, there's no doubt about that. If I was really going along with the narratives I would be saying that Kobe is a top 3 player to have ever touched the game, but I just believe that the footage, stats, and accolades tell a different story. Kobe is an amazing player with an amazing mentality, I just don't think he's top 5. Keep in mind this is just my opinion. What is a fact though, is the amount of people pushing the narrative that Kobe was the greatest ever greatly increasing AFTER he died.
AltonBu02 [#42]That's a lot of assumptions you just made. I've watched a few full games of each of the players I listed except for Wilt and Bill Russell, whom I've only saw clips of. Keep in mind this is the greatest NBA players of all time list, not who I considered to be the most talented or skilled. Just who was the greatest in their era. Every era will have more talented players than the last, there's no doubt about that. If I was really going along with the narratives I would be saying that Kobe is a top 3 player to have ever touched the game, but I just believe that the footage, stats, and accolades tell a different story. Kobe is an amazing player with an amazing mentality, I just don't think he's top 5. Keep in mind this is just my opinion. What is a fact though, is the amount of people pushing the narrative that Kobe was the greatest ever greatly increasing AFTER he died.
If you think stats or footage play a big factor, then no way you think larry or bill were better than kobe. bill couldn't do shit offensively, and kobe has done everything better than larry. only thing larry has the upper hand on kobe are the mvp's. same w magic, only thing magic done better than kobe was playmaking. so explain, how are these 3 better than kobe?
Animosity07 [#43]Kobe def top 10, what made him great was how normal his specs were in comparison to the freaks in the top 5 and he made it work. He's like that honda civic with a laptop
lebron, curry, kareem, russel, bird, magic, curry, hakeem, duncan and wilt are all better maybe shaq by the end of this generation he wont even be top 15 with guys like jokic giannis and victor
FDWC- [#32]alot of player clears kobe
Lebron
Jordan
Shaq
Kareem
Magic
Duncan
Bird
KD
Hakeem
Steph
Jokiclets be fr now
KD and jokic are cap
AltonBu02 [#24]Genuinely, how is he top 3-5. He's not better than Wilt, Kareem, Bill Russell, Shaq, Magic, Bird, and Duncan. Kobe and Hakeem is debatable. He's in the lower half of top 10 for sure and that was a popular sentiment before his death. It was only until after his death that some people started putting him at top 3-5; it boosted his hype so much that some even started saying he was the greatest of all time.
plumber crusher, top10, plumber crusher, top10, top15-20, most overrated player in NBA history, LMAO
endless1 [#44]If you think stats or footage play a big factor, then no way you think larry or bill were better than kobe. bill couldn't do shit offensively, and kobe has done everything better than larry. only thing larry has the upper hand on kobe are the mvp's. same w magic, only thing magic done better than kobe was playmaking. so explain, how are these 3 better than kobe?
OP talks like someone who has watched 3 total NBA games in their life
PP12123213123 [#50]who? Logan Sergent clear this guy
Well he is jobless now so he can go and try I guess
Mortadelo [#52]Well he is jobless now so he can go and try I guess
He still can find a job and get new life
endless1 [#44]If you think stats or footage play a big factor, then no way you think larry or bill were better than kobe. bill couldn't do shit offensively, and kobe has done everything better than larry. only thing larry has the upper hand on kobe are the mvp's. same w magic, only thing magic done better than kobe was playmaking. so explain, how are these 3 better than kobe?
bill has 11 rings cant really argue against that
magic is the best playmaker of all time, much bigger, and completly changed the game of basketball. he has more finals appearances, more championships, more finals mvps, more MVPs, more all-nba teams, and more first team all-nba’s. without the whole HIV situation hes in goat debate
LB was the original curry, he could shoot from anywhere. in todays NBA he would be unbeatable, pretty much jokic but way better. shame he got injured. Bird was also the only guy who could stop Mj and the bulls consistently
thenutoriousPRO [#55]bill has 11 rings cant really argue against that
magic is the best playmaker of all time, much bigger, and completly changed the game of basketball. he has more finals appearances, more championships, more finals mvps, more MVPs, more all-nba teams, and more first team all-nba’s. without the whole HIV situation hes in goat debate
LB was the original curry, he could shoot from anywhere. in todays NBA he would be unbeatable, pretty much jokic but way better. shame he got injured. Bird was also the only guy who could stop Mj and the bulls consistently
If we argue bill is better than kobe based off rings, surely hes better than bron/mj too?
Magic doesn't have more championships, finals appearances equals more losses, and w Bron that is the biggest argument everyone brings why he's not the goat, so why is that criteria for magic than against him? kobe has more nba first teams, so your argument is false, just again. Neither is he in goat debate without the HIV situation.
not even going to argue w bird, bc if you think he was better than kobe, you're just delulu
I_LOVE_LESS [#49]plumber crusher, top10, plumber crusher, top10, top15-20, most overrated player in NBA history, LMAO
crazy that they rate someone who's been playing against part time players lmaooo
endless1 [#44]If you think stats or footage play a big factor, then no way you think larry or bill were better than kobe. bill couldn't do shit offensively, and kobe has done everything better than larry. only thing larry has the upper hand on kobe are the mvp's. same w magic, only thing magic done better than kobe was playmaking. so explain, how are these 3 better than kobe?
Bill Russell main strength was his defense by far, but saying he couldn't do shit offensively is a stretch. Larry was a much better rebounder and passer and was a much more efficient scorer than kobe. Kobe was a better defender (although larry was a great defender) while larry was the better overall offensive player. Kobe was the second guy behind shaq in 3 of his championships while bird was the main guy for most of them. Not to say kobe didn't play a big part, but there's a reason why bird has the same amount of finals mvps as kobe even though kobe has two more rings. Bird was more clutch than kobe and had 2 more mvps despite only playing 13 seasons. If you don't think bird and kobe are comparable you're crazy. Quite literally the only things kobe has over bird is longevity and defense.
I_LOVE_LESS [#49]plumber crusher, top10, plumber crusher, top10, top15-20, most overrated player in NBA history, LMAO
With all due respect you've been spoon fed too many modern day narratives. Of course players will be more talented over time, that, for the most part, doesn't affect how great a player was in a previous era. The only thing I agree on is that the era where bill and wilt played was underdeveloped as the nba was new at the time. That's why they're not my goats even if they were relatively the "greatest" compared to their comp.
Also, funny how this is your argument when you were the one stating I don't watch ball.
AltonBu02 [#59]With all due respect you've been spoon fed too many modern day narratives. Of course players will be more talented over time, that, for the most part, doesn't affect how great a player was in a previous era. The only thing I agree on is that the era where bill and wilt played was underdeveloped as the nba was new at the time. That's why they're not my goats even if they were relatively the "greatest" compared to their comp.
Also, funny how this is your argument when you were the one stating I don't watch ball.
"spoonfed too many modern day narratives" i literally just watch the game and come to my own conclusions
Hades_Loves_Rb [#14]I mean I geuss, hes def in the top 10 but not high
in no order
Jordan
Lebron
Steph
Shaq
Rb
Kareem
Kobe
Scalabrine
Tatum (we did it)
James JR.
where is antony
I_LOVE_LESS [#60]"spoonfed too many modern day narratives" i literally just watch the game and come to my own conclusions
Tim duncan being the most overrated player of all time is certainly a take. Most people have in the lower half of top ten as the greatest pf of all time, how is he overrated?
And how tf is magic/bird top 15-20?
AltonBu02 [#58]Bill Russell main strength was his defense by far, but saying he couldn't do shit offensively is a stretch. Larry was a much better rebounder and passer and was a much more efficient scorer than kobe. Kobe was a better defender (although larry was a great defender) while larry was the better overall offensive player. Kobe was the second guy behind shaq in 3 of his championships while bird was the main guy for most of them. Not to say kobe didn't play a big part, but there's a reason why bird has the same amount of finals mvps as kobe even though kobe has two more rings. Bird was more clutch than kobe and had 2 more mvps despite only playing 13 seasons. If you don't think bird and kobe are comparable you're crazy. Quite literally the only things kobe has over bird is longevity and defense.
larry bird would literally be a poor man's kd in this era 😭
endless1 [#56]If we argue bill is better than kobe based off rings, surely hes better than bron/mj too?
Magic doesn't have more championships, finals appearances equals more losses, and w Bron that is the biggest argument everyone brings why he's not the goat, so why is that criteria for magic than against him? kobe has more nba first teams, so your argument is false, just again. Neither is he in goat debate without the HIV situation.
not even going to argue w bird, bc if you think he was better than kobe, you're just delulu
only reason bill isnt considered the goat is because most of us never saw him play
i apologize, for some reason when i wrote that i was thinking about curry cuz they usually get compared more. Magic made 9 finals in 12 seasons. Kobe has never reached that level of dominance. Magic finished in the top 3 for MVP voting for 9 straight season, including 3 MVPs. In his rookie year, magic won finals MVP against Dr. J and the 76ers. Magic was smarter, bigger and better at defense. If I could choose Kobe or Magic on my team, i'm taking Magic instantly
Give me one reason why kobe is better than any of these players
endless1 [#63]larry bird would literally be a poor man's kd in this era 😭
Larry Bird is Jokic but better in almost all ways, and by the time Jokic retires I'll have him over Kobe
thenutoriousPRO [#64]only reason bill isnt considered the goat is because most of us never saw him play
i apologize, for some reason when i wrote that i was thinking about curry cuz they usually get compared more. Magic made 9 finals in 12 seasons. Kobe has never reached that level of dominance. Magic finished in the top 3 for MVP voting for 9 straight season, including 3 MVPs. In his rookie year, magic won finals MVP against Dr. J and the 76ers. Magic was smarter, bigger and better at defense. If I could choose Kobe or Magic on my team, i'm taking Magic instantly
Give me one reason why kobe is better than any of these players
brother the fact that you just said magic was better defensively than kobe shows you have zero ball knowledge, please stop embarrassing yourself
AltonBu02 [#62]Tim duncan being the most overrated player of all time is certainly a take. Most people have in the lower half of top ten as the greatest pf of all time, how is he overrated?
And how tf is magic/bird top 15-20?
i said bird is most overrated of all time you cant read
I_LOVE_LESS [#67]i said bird is most overrated of all time you cant read
Great, now the question is how is bird overrated and magic only top 15-20?
endless1 [#66]brother the fact that you just said magic was better defensively than kobe shows you have zero ball knowledge, please stop embarrassing yourself
obv never saw magic play during his career, but from what i have heard and somewhat seen from clips magic was a much better perimeter defender. Personally growing up watching Kobe I never fought he was a great defender. I have heard he was better in the early 2000s, but everything I have seen suggests Magic was better
thenutoriousPRO [#69]obv never saw magic play during his career, but from what i have heard and somewhat seen from clips magic was a much better perimeter defender. Personally growing up watching Kobe I never fought he was a great defender. I have heard he was better in the early 2000s, but everything I have seen suggests Magic was better
yeah the guy whos never been known for his defense, never made an all defensive team is a better defender than the guy whos a peri lock, and a 12 time all defense
i really want the crack you're smoking
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