best team of the year

geng can no longer claim to be the best team of 2024 since SEN fucked them twice in important matches

just like fnatic wasnt the best team of 2023 since LOUD had them on a dog leash in important matches

I disagree

#SENCITY #TENZMYKING #WEKKEN

If sen win then its sen, if its fnatic then its fnatic, the rest idk

geng is dogshit

nah sen still need to place on the podium at minimum

Geng is trash team

redddiiiiii [#4]

If sen win then its sen, if its fnatic then its fnatic, the rest idk

heretics?

redddiiiiii [#4]

If sen win then its sen, if its fnatic then its fnatic, the rest idk

heretics and G2 are contenders too

Average_NA_fan [#5]

geng is dogshit

W

Your fnatic take is stupid lmao, they won 2 international trophies in 2023 (including beating loud IN BRAZIL after a 3-11 comeback) and still got 4th at champions, yes they lost to LOUD but they didn't even go on to win champs either

redddiiiiii [#4]

If sen win then its sen, if its fnatic then its fnatic, the rest idk

It's not fnatic even if they win this. Not making it to Madrid, winning 0 matches at Shanghai and winning Champs, is arguably worse than getting 2nd at a masters, winning a masters and getting grouped at Champs.

SXNFLGJL [#11]

Your fnatic take is stupid lmao, they won 2 international trophies in 2023 (including beating loud IN BRAZIL after a 3-11 comeback) and still got 4th at champions, yes they lost to LOUD but they didn't even go on to win champs either

nobody cares for invitationals.. i wont count afreecaTV and tarik ludwig invitationals for 2024. only masters and champions and Fnatic simply couldnt beat LOUD

idk man getting into 5 grand finals in a row while winning 2 regionals and 1 masters is pretty damn good shit

kskm [#13]

nobody cares for invitationals.. i wont count afreecaTV and tarik ludwig invitationals for 2024. only masters and champions and Fnatic simply couldnt beat LOUD

A Riot LAN is a Riot LAN.

They're definitely still #1 unless Sen or TH win

kskm [#13]

nobody cares for invitationals.. i wont count afreecaTV and tarik ludwig invitationals for 2024. only masters and champions and Fnatic simply couldnt beat LOUD

You're comparing kick off, a tournament that had all 30 partnered teams + EDG & FPX to events like afreecaTV? and the tarik ludwig invitational? that's crazy

geng is still #1
They were the most consistent in their region and made all 3 LANs

if sen or th win champs then they're definitely best team of the year bcs winning champs >>>> winning masters

Imo th, even though they won nothing, they were consistently good throughout the year

G2 has always been the best team but ya'll just hate them.

ascention [#21]

G2 has always been the best team but ya'll just hate them.

they wanted sen to be the best

What is the criteria for team of the year? Because Fnatic and GenG have been the most consistent in their years (2023 and 2024 respectively).
Would EG be in contention for 2023 TOTY since they won Champions? Are we talking firepower like NRG? Or fan favorite like Sentinels and Paper Rex?

I have to disagree with your argument because I value the consistency of these two teams. Both teams have made every tournament, placed 1st and 2nd in their leagues, and placed high in each tournament (GenG champions being the exception).

Edit: Imagine someone like Lebron or MJ not be in contention for player of the year because they lost against 1 team.

If PRX/Sen/TH/G2 won then it's them

The other 4 was basically not present in the masters

Otherwise its still Geng

wait so winning 2 out of 3 events in a year doesnt make you the best team of the year ? LMAO Gen G can still be the best team if someone completely random won they need to hope sen, heretics, g2 dont win and then its gucci

A team finishes 1st, 1st, and 4th in three international tournaments throughout the year, and someone with random 'brain-dead vlr logic' argues that this team isn't the best that year

how is fnc not the best team of 2023 lmao

NurptheDerp [#23]

What is the criteria for team of the year? Because Fnatic and GenG have been the most consistent in their years (2023 and 2024 respectively).
Would EG be in contention for 2023 TOTY since they won Champions? Are we talking firepower like NRG? Or fan favorite like Sentinels and Paper Rex?

I have to disagree with your argument because I value the consistency of these two teams. Both teams have made every tournament, placed 1st and 2nd in their leagues, and placed high in each tournament (GenG champions being the exception).

Edit: Imagine someone like Lebron or MJ not be in contention for player of the year because they lost against 1 team.

its hard to measure consistency.. if a team struggles against a particular team then its hard to call them the best team of the year.. simply because who plays who is a coin toss.. some teams can make deep runs just because they played weak teams and then lose out to specific teams. Fnatic repeatedly losing to LOUD in champs shows they were not the best. EG is the best choice for 2023 and who is the best in 2024 is still undecided

kskm [#28]

its hard to measure consistency.. if a team struggles against a particular team then its hard to call them the best team of the year.. simply because who plays who is a coin toss.. some teams can make deep runs just because they played weak teams and then lose out to specific teams. Fnatic repeatedly losing to LOUD in champs shows they were not the best. EG is the best choice for 2023 and who is the best in 2024 is still undecided

By your logic eg can’t be called the best team then as they lost to loud twice and they never beat fnatic. They played fnatic twice and lost both times 5-1 in maps to fnatic so by your own logic eg can’t be called the best.
Until champs playoffs fnatic had lost only 8 maps and lost only 1 series up until they played loud at champs that’s consistency plus on the all the maps they played that year they had a positive record eg didn’t come close to fnatic that year

well if SEN win champs this year then i think SEN easily takes that (kick off and madrid winners)

Best team right now is TH undoubtly

Manaphy [#2]

I disagree

I think if Sen makes it to finals, it’s between them and GenG since they made two finals and won a title. But if Sen actually win it then no doubt Sen.
I don’t think any other than the two deserve since these two were always consistent and won

kskm [#28]

its hard to measure consistency.. if a team struggles against a particular team then its hard to call them the best team of the year.. simply because who plays who is a coin toss.. some teams can make deep runs just because they played weak teams and then lose out to specific teams. Fnatic repeatedly losing to LOUD in champs shows they were not the best. EG is the best choice for 2023 and who is the best in 2024 is still undecided

Is EG the best choice just because they won champions? Or are you defining consistency with EG?
Measuring consistency (to me) is how likely I am of making the right predictions with that team. Luck is everywhere in both the game and pro scene. From random headshot through smokes and timings, to whoever is sleeping in and bracket draws, but top tier teams will minimize or exploit each part of the game's RNG, leading to consistent performances. There was the 2016 NBA Finals, where the Warriors were the favorites and lost a 3-1 lead to the Cavaliers, does that discredit what they did the whole year?

Hearing about EG's story and how they NEEDED MIBR (who were one of the lowest performing teams in that league), I wouldn't have thought that they were going to make it to champs in the first place. They have never beaten FNC, earning second place in Tokyo, and are tied with FNC in terms of series against LOUD (both 2-1).

Consistency is how top tier teams beat other top tier teams. There is a one in a million chance that a team like EG loses to a random team that gets 40 running headshot kills through a smoke, and make all the right reads, but that shouldn't discredit what they do would work the other 99% of the time.