sinatraa trial

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brings actually zero energy to a team i don't see him being T1 even if he's good nobody wants to hear the r word everytime they lose a round lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwVRfiVCLEU

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did he call his teammate a retard during the trial? can't watch the vid rn

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no he lost a round and called an apposing player a retard in his trial scrim lol

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lmao i promise you say they say 10x worst shit then the R word lmao

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interesting double standard considering what FNS said in a scrim the other day and nobody cared LMAO

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what did FNS say?

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catNmouse

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he said he would rail someone on c9 in a scrim 2 years ago, also “that’s so gay”

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Lmao gigachad

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laifu

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damn so they were considering picking sinatraa over demon1 at first, ch0t ruining careers and making wrong decisions

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this is hindsight lmfao rmbr this was after champs 2023
who would pass on demon1

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ik but they were scrimming sinatraa + ethan, so they were considering not even picking demon1

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they didn't know that Demon1 was gonna be available, so when he became available, they just went after him, no?

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ButterflyEffect23

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there's no way you would pick a player who was inactive for 3 years(?) over the reigning Champs MVP, this is just hindsight

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envyz

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they got ethan from contract hell and got the opportunity for Demon1 and then just took it.

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i mean didnt chet say they wouldve gotten him if it wasnt for demon1 lol

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The way you phrase that makes it sound like he is calling his team the r word when its the opposite, i couldn’t care less if my teammate says the most diabolical shit against the enemies(after the round ends)

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i mean i wouldn't stand it if someone was dropping the hard r but like retard is nothing

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Hard r is too much, everyone knows that

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doesn't matter nobody wants to hear you baby rage over losing shit is annoying and childish lol literally just shows what kind of person you truly are

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how is it rage tho? we're talking about words, not attitude

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envyz

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im telling you in no team environment is someone gonna want to hear you say retard and it sets a bad precedent.

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If you don’t think dudes like crashies, marved, even shanks back in the day were rippin words that are cancelable nowadays i don’t know what to tell u

I can also guarantee that, just like everyone else, he wouldn’t say anything like that on stage or in an interview.

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no offense but have you played for a team?

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envyz

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i've played sports for my entire life nobody likes a person who literally acts childish when losing or whatever you should be able to take losses on the chin and using insensitive language is fucking cringe especially in a team setting where morale is everything and someone can be hurt/offended or look at you in a different light, like I get saying it once or twice but saying it every time you die or get upset is annoying as fuck and very childish lol

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BRO ITS A SCRIM BETWEEN 6 OTHER PEOPLE LMAOOO. SINATRAA IS LITERALLY FRIENDS WITH THEM (except maybe ethan) and even its not that deep lmao

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the guy is mid clutch and your saying "this guy is fucking retarded" while he's trying to win the round instead of giving valuable information and no team environment is someone going to bring a person with zero intangibles and someone if you say "it's not that serious" lets take it out of context, this maybe a scrim in a relaxed environment but in a actual match nobody wants to hear that shit i swear when y

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it was one of their first scrims of the year and chet said they didnt have any strats prepared and were jsut testing shit to the point where chet told him to hop on iso (pre buff). you're reading too much into this. just because he said it once in a scrim that didnt matter, where people were cracking jokes doesnt mean hes going to do it ALL the time. its not that deep bro

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esports is a different environment though, you have to take into account that being toxic and "insensitive language" is apart of internet culture and these dudes have been desensitised to these things. it won't bring them down that easily

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the thing is in a relaxed enviornment okay sure say all u want but i swear nobody wants to hear that shit on stage.

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eh my experience with sports was different to each their own, also esports is vastly different to normal sports. We behind a screen, our egos to the max who doesnt get hype by shit talking the enemy team.

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nobody likes a person who literally acts childish when losing or whatever you should be able to take losses on the chin

Fuck no sports is emotional, thats just how it is, people like FNS rage all the time, Victor literally destroyed the riot headset after losing their game to c9, its just how some players are and its good to be emotional because that shows you truly love what youre doing

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You say this shit like you're on the team LMFAO, if you befriend your team you can have a good time no matter what you say, that's why a friend group could be saying the most diabolical stuff ever and still be having an amazing time. Don't try to chime in and say what you think other people should be doing, just makes everyone robots and this "team environment" shit is no where to be seen.

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You don't understand that in a team setting team morale is literally everything with chemistry if your teammates think bad of you you obviously aren't going to mesh well and fights do happen some people are offended by the words people say, saying it constantly as a grown man, Impressions are literally everything, and knowing Sinatraa he probably out of all the possible people contributes the least to a team intangibles wise

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this is js wrong tho
they are a professional team representing their org, they should be aware of their actions and should behave maturely and professionally
throwing random slurs like that is extremely unprofessional

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envyz

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agreed, throwing random slurs is extremely uncalled for as a grown man aswell nobody wants to hear that shit either.

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What you said is half correct but also extremely wrong lmao, the argument is "team chemistry" how are you gonna build team chem while acting like professional workers? At the end of the day people should maintain some professionality inside and outside of the game but inside the game it doesn't matter and should be treated as just a group of friends nothing more lmao. If you think that a VCT team should be only professional then you're looking at a team that's most likely to fail, just imagine if people on the teams couldn't joke around or make jokes that would be considered "unprofessional" where's the team chem or fun in that?

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my argument is say what u want but at the end of the day theres boundaries
PRX literally trolls all the time during matches, if u listened to their comm videos
im saying throwing around slurs is not okay behavior, not even as a pro player but just as a person first
dont know what kinda team chem that requires u to throw slurs around

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I can see how I kind of said that you need to throw slurs to build team chem which wasn't what I'm going for but you're saying that people need to be hella professional inside the match too which is just incorrect which is what I'm trying to prove wrong.

Also don't use PRX as an example bro lmao, these two teams are on completely different sides of the Earth and NA is also known to be extremely toxic so Sinatraa doing this isn't something new lmao. If you look back at Demon1 bro was mad shit talking during matches and also this year its known that Boostio was mad shit talking in the chat of live games as well. Guess what them doing this didn't bring down the team chem did it? I mean surely if people playing with Boostio or Demon1 would surely get mad and never want to play with people who constantly call the enemy team shit and to never play the game right?

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isn't that what sentinels do whenever they lose a match?

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envyz

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people have team talks yes and get angry because you lost is very normal but slurs are very different.

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good on them for getting demon1 over sinatraa tbh

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catNmouse

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huge PR risk
who wouldn’t get the champs MVP

nothing to do with sinatraas vibes

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saebr

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how is sinatraa a PR risk?

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are you serious

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saebr

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completely serious? you can like him or not but hasn't his allegations been dropped? for awhile now as well. if he was such a risk then they wouldn't trial him in the first place since no amount of trophies would excuse having a PR bomb on your team, but he's not.

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its more like the amount of hate he's getting, ur gonna bring that to the org

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Damn, Yay the greatest PR risk in valorant

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i wasnt talking about PR im just saying if sintraa signs to a tea they will recieve hate regardless of results

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because there’s still alot of people that believe in the allegations and trust me they’d lose more supporters than gain them, nrg was so close to it but other than that i don’t think any other org would pick him up simply for the sake of that

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İsnt bro banned from franchising because hes a rapist

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he's not banned and hes not a rapist either lol. he got cleared by riot 2 years ago or sum and has received offers before.

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waxsly

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So hes a rapist

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ButterflyEffect23

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how, if he got cleared

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serious literacy problem

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This is a trial scrim, they don't have synergy or really know each other so obviously they wont have much energy, also no one on that team even had energy to begin with. Also I don't think these players care if someone calls the other team a retard and I'm sure they say worse stuff to each other, I don't even understand by people get so offended by the word retard.

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I can’t lie gang I feel like it’s time for him to get back in tier one
His raze gameplay is beautiful bro
Like one of the only players to actually use his satchels while fighting a player to displace them and mess up their aim
Ik he’s done some stuff but he’s served his sentence and I think most ppl on this site would be excited to see him join a team

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he was shooting on raze cant lie and chet evens aid he only needed a few weeks to get used to things.

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cyk

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whats wrong with this wtf

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envyz

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no pro team wants to pick up a player who just constantly says slurs with zero intangibles lol

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bro thinks scrims are like job interviews

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envyz

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never said that lol, but do you think a team would like representable and professional players? if you act like a fool do you not think it sets a bad precedent for the organization?

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guys acting like they dk each other or sum

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Zakariya

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bruh these Shitnels fans finds some or the other person to shit on daily .

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envyz

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not shitting on anyone lol, literally just makes him way less marketable and way less professional in the eyes of teams

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Zakariya

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even your favourite players say such kinds of stuffs backstage or in scrims . they just dont show that in there highly edited videos .

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envyz

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did I say I condone it? it's still cringe either way its way more lenient in a controlled enviornment but in literal matches on stage nobody wants to hear that shit lol

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i garantee you that zellsis has said that every scrim

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