why not keep patitek

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tungsten_cube

am i the only one who thinks its gonna be hard for th to top their performance today with mini? patitek just seems to gel so well with them idk

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-riens + patitek

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riens is so slept on it's not even funny
dude's a menace

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fr ppl only just look at stats and vlr to decide who they should keep. reins is insane

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the weird part is that his stats are good as well he's just fucking forgotten for some reason 💀

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It is exactly as you mention.
Benjy and Wo0t have flashy personality and are both well known, PaTiTek has made a name for himself because of being an elite sub and Boo is the IGL so he isn't in the convo.
The one who's the most quiet appearing is Riens when as you mentioned stat wise he is ridiculously good as well

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holy downvote lmao and no. Reins has a lot of impact

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-Boo +Miniboo

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-Boo +Miniboo

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i think woot being duelist was more impactful but patitek being there enables woot to be on top

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Just like if miniboo is there, and woot and riens enable him to be on top?

with the neon buffs coming up, I'd very much like to keep miniboo on the team

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Al-Mawsil

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miniboo and pattitek versions of heretics feel so close idm which one is kept

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Don't worry bud. Stand-in tourney runs are always honeymoon phases, no one knows what to expect, look at CS so many stand in teams perform well, it's unpredictable and they have no pressure.

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what? thats literally their third (counting kickoff) event with him lol

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he is gone after this tournament permanently, possibly someone like KOI will pick him up. Team has no expectations, they are chilling having fun, His ceiling personally is nowhere near Miniboo OR wo0t unfortunately but he is a decent support player, don't worry about him finding a team if yo u are his fan

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Sk00d

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but how is it a honeymoon bro lol

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I imagine he means they have way less pressure because they don't have the full roster. Sure there's peassure, but there's always the "this is not our 100%"

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https://www.vlr.gg/358409/few-teams-getting-fixes

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sentinelmain377

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nah

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Patitek reminds me of Patiphan. Miss that dude fr 😭

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he ruined his own career, was playing at the top level, would easily be in a good franchised team rn but he decided to chase money in OW2 and he could never comeback and adapt

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Chase money and play the game he loved initially? ~ Sounds like a great choice to me. He was always at OWL level but he was too young to compete due to the age restriction. What kid wouldn't go back to the game that they wanted to go pro in since the start and where he first made his name ~ SideShow and Bren were literally casting him when he was on Team Thailand in the Overwatch World Cup and saw how cracked he was. He played in OWL, won an event and then dipped; Shortly after OWL dissolves, I'd say he made a good decision. He's still on TALON, if he starts feeling ready to play again, they can just put him on the active roster again.

S1 TALON as a whole was a mess and the environment was a contributing factor to the downfall in all the players. Current TALON looks good and consistently improving with an international roster, Foxz and Sushiboys are killing it on FULL SENSE and strong contenders for APAC Ascension. Garnets is on NKT which is also a solid team in the Thai circuit. That team needed a reset and Patiphan as a pro player needed a long break to reset his mental and let his wrist heal.

He wrist injury was catching up to him and his mental wasn't good in VALORANT. He is now recovering his wrist and having fun on his streams, he could come back to the pro scene no doubt, he's still young and mechanically gifted, just perhaps not ready to re-enter Tier 1 level yet in terms of adapting to the meta and flexibility on agents.

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Tbf the only reason pati went pro in val is because he was underage for owl.

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idk if u watched emea or not
but so far they have only lost 1 series with miniboo and wo0t iteration
and they also have INSANE potential to just be great for a long time

this should just prove to u guys that heretics are a GOOD team cuz of the system and not cuz of their star players
patitek isnt a magic man , its the team is just really fucking good

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biggest recency bias, people forget minib00 at kickoff
if they don't win shanghai they will win champs with miniboo

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patitek is so good at setting up woot its crazy
if anyone has to go id say riens but honestly thats conjecture as well

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Mortadelo

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Riens has one of the best utilities in the world, better than patitek, and riens is the only Sova

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Crackyoudown

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miniboo
boo
benjy
wo0t
riens

idk that sounds like that cooks tbh

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Sk00d

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at this point make the game 6v6 and let them win it all

miniboo is insane tho, he has to step in once he's back

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it about pace game
when miniboo is playing
teammate cannot follow his pace

Patitek > miniboo
they can play classic game

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???

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prx_jingggggggg

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6v6 NRG

Ethan
s0m
Puchan
Demon1
Victor
Crashies

i can see TH vs NRG in 6v6 champs

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MrShadow

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-miniboo -patitek
clone wo0t and put them on duelist and initiator ez

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miniboo is gonna be great in the new meta if neon's gonna be broken as people are saying
but this also means pati is gonna have the freedom to go to whichever team he wants cuz his stocks are super high, so I think it all works out

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genuinely idk what they would do about this all 6 players are insane and you can't drop one of them becuase they all do their roles so well and all are able to pop off

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As much as i love Pati, their real 5 have only lost once so far. I'm pretty sure Wo0t has said before he prefers playing the flex role, it's what hes mostly done in his career.

Plus, Neon becoming a real threat in the meta will def increase Miniboo's stock alone.

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It's not that pati is bad, he's great for sure its more so miniboo is a better fit for the team, especially considering the inherent gelling that brothers likely provide. Plus mini is already cracked on neon who got all those buffs recently.

There is of course a world where they don't live up to expectations going forward but in my mind I have a feeling that currently we are watching a team with a 'this isn't even my final form vibe.' Which if true is very scary for everyone else moving forward. We shall see though and regardless I hope pati finds a good t1 team.

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Mortadelo

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That's exactly what people were saying about Woot after Madrid. "keep patitek, he's better than Woot"

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EntryKJ

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miniboo is gonna fry with the neon buffs

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Paraplant

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miniboo is as cracked as woot on duelist (if not better)
and woot proved in stage 1 that he can play other roles and still provide big impact
love pati but when you have such good roster it’s hard to compete
hope he finds a place on a diff team (please tl he will save them)

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Marxx

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woot (duelist) > woot(flex)
woot (duelist) > miniboo
the guy is a flex player and at the same time best duelist in the event and better than miniboo.