The North American region of Valorant will not be on top of the game for very long. The reason for it being on top initially is the reality that North American Counter:Strike is dead. Without this being the case, there wouldn't be much of anything going for NA, much less Valorant. The pool of professional North American CS players was massive for orgs in NA to choose from, able to take over talent that is going to be far ahead of any other region for the near future. Now that some time has passed, we've seen NA really not grow at all as a region basically just leaving Sentinals as the only real bastion for NA dominance abroad considering their run in Iceland. Unfortunately for them though, it's basically been proven with time that the teams they did beat from abroad, I.E. Fnatic and some others, are not even close to being dominant in their region. Fnatic was knocked out by Liquid who just got beaten by a 25th ranked Navi for crying out loud. The supposed to be dominating teams in EU are being destroyed by the new teams such as Ascend who is looking incredible at the moment. Same goes for Gambit, who looks very good.

Point is, though, NA supremacy will go to the wayside once everyone else gets that time to catch up from the huge pro player deficit they were in coming to Valorant in the first place.

EDIT: I was correct.

ACEND isnt a new team, they won masters 1 EU. But yes, new EMEA teams have emerged and have potential to take down sentinels

unknown_trash [#2]

ACEND isnt a new team, they won masters 1 EU. But yes, new EMEA teams have emerged and have potential to take down sentinels

Relative to the legacy, resources, and time that all of the massive European teams have, they are incredibly new. Fnatic has existed forever at this point, Liquid as well, G2 is obvious as well. It's relative to the massive teams from Europe who were on top not even a year ago.

It's also possible FNATIC overperformed at iceland/qualifiers and under performed recently. Surprised they arent in the qualifier tbf. NA is also improving.

Did yay and asuna play cs?

I think that pretty soon it’s going to come to the point we’re being good in CS doesn’t matter anymore. These young cracked kids are going to grow up on Valorant and dominate the scene.

LouBag [#5]

Did yay and asuna play cs?

I think that pretty soon it’s going to come to the point we’re being good in CS doesn’t matter anymore. These young cracked kids are going to grow up on Valorant and dominate the scene.

yeah lmao they were some of the best NA players

CS Never really seemed popular in NA, viewership for domestic events was not even 1/10th of what it is now for Valorant. The issue w/ NA CS was a pretty small talent pool when compared to EU. I think that this won't be nearly as big of a problem with Valorant given the current playerbase, active streamers, and Riot's support so NA Valorant will have more longevity than CS did.

hiyo [#6]

yeah lmao they were some of the best NA players

Isn’t asuna In HIghschool when he started playing for 100t? How old was he when he was pro in cs? 15?

LouBag [#5]

Did yay and asuna play cs?

I think that pretty soon it’s going to come to the point we’re being good in CS doesn’t matter anymore. These young cracked kids are going to grow up on Valorant and dominate the scene.

Both did, though Asuna was never a professional. Yay played for Complexity for around a year. I agree though, these new age players coming up in the game, being built by it, are going to take over eventually. Though, most of the pro players that did switch were washed anyway, it's still a massive advantage that won't be gone entirely for maybe another year.

hiyo [#6]

yeah lmao they were some of the best NA players

Asuna never made it out of tier 3, he was good but never was really developed. Yay played for some good squads and he had real experience in CS. I agree that talent will come grow from Valorant given the game's popularity so hopefully NA will stay good for a while yet

While I agree that SEN’s reign will end (all things do, I think it’s going to be very tough to win Masters). I don’t think it’s because of this NA talent pool idea. The majority of the best players in NA Valorant are/were CS outcasts that either couldn’t find a good team or success. It’s not like before Valorant people were going, “damn ShahZam and TenZ on the same team, that will dominate everyone. Or “Dapr and Zombs, that might be two of the best non duelist players NA has.”

100T I would say are the one team that did have players that could have still found a winning spot on a team in CS, but even then. Hiko, Steel and Asuna are not part of this CS talent pool that NA had an advantage supposedly. I would agree if it was players like Twistzz, Elige, Naf, Stewie, etc that were on some Valorant line up tearing it up. But so far the best NA players are players who had a hard time finding success in CS GO.

IMO the talent that will decide who is the best region in the next year or so. Are the young 17-18 year olds, not ex CS Players unless they are the big big names.

mans put up an american flag to type some BS KEKW

NewEulogy [#7]

CS Never really seemed popular in NA, viewership for domestic events was not even 1/10th of what it is now for Valorant. The issue w/ NA CS was a pretty small talent pool when compared to EU. I think that this won't be nearly as big of a problem with Valorant given the current playerbase, active streamers, and Riot's support so NA Valorant will have more longevity than CS did.

I don't know if that's the case, it took damn near 20 years for NA cs to finally keel over and die. I simply don't think it'll be possible to beat that sort of longevity, even with support. Not to mention if CS actually starts to die, which there's an argument for it happening, Valve will intervene.

LouBag [#5]

Did yay and asuna play cs?

I think that pretty soon it’s going to come to the point we’re being good in CS doesn’t matter anymore. These young cracked kids are going to grow up on Valorant and dominate the scene.

Yep, they both played. Yay was a pro for complexity, but Asuna never made it to tier 1 NA.

LouBag [#5]

Did yay and asuna play cs?

I think that pretty soon it’s going to come to the point we’re being good in CS doesn’t matter anymore. These young cracked kids are going to grow up on Valorant and dominate the scene.

yay and asuna both played cs and were washed

LouBag [#5]

Did yay and asuna play cs?

I think that pretty soon it’s going to come to the point we’re being good in CS doesn’t matter anymore. These young cracked kids are going to grow up on Valorant and dominate the scene.

yay was seen as good but took a break I'm pretty sure.
Asuna was an up and coming talent

LouBag [#5]

Did yay and asuna play cs?

I think that pretty soon it’s going to come to the point we’re being good in CS doesn’t matter anymore. These young cracked kids are going to grow up on Valorant and dominate the scene.

might happen in the future but as of now

14/15 of the NA berlin attendees are from csgo

SETSUZA [#17]

might happen in the future but as of now

14/15 of the NA berlin attendees are from csgo

who's not?

SETSUZA [#17]

might happen in the future but as of now

14/15 of the NA berlin attendees are from csgo

well yeah, the game hasnt even been out for a year and a half, how are kids going to grow up playing valorant and get into pro teams in a year and a half? Of course ex CS pros are going to be dominant at the start; they already have mechanics and basic fundamentals since valorant and cs are the same genre of game. All they have to get used to is the new utility and agent comps

streamratings [#18]

who's not?

Zombs, from Apex but insane at every fps. If he was from CS he would have won 5 majors!

Shanty [#11]

While I agree that SEN’s reign will end (all things do, I think it’s going to be very tough to win Masters). I don’t think it’s because of this NA talent pool idea. The majority of the best players in NA Valorant are/were CS outcasts that either couldn’t find a good team or success. It’s not like before Valorant people were going, “damn ShahZam and TenZ on the same team, that will dominate everyone. Or “Dapr and Zombs, that might be two of the best non duelist players NA has.”

100T I would say are the one team that did have players that could have still found a winning spot on a team in CS, but even then. Hiko, Steel and Asuna are not part of this CS talent pool that NA had an advantage supposedly. I would agree if it was players like Twistzz, Elige, Naf, Stewie, etc that were on some Valorant line up tearing it up. But so far the best NA players are players who had a hard time finding success in CS GO.

IMO the talent that will decide who is the best region in the next year or so. Are the young 17-18 year olds, not ex CS Players unless they are the big big names.

its a shame no good players switched from eu expect scream,the competition would be so much more high level or it could just be NA and EU shitting on everyone else

Netero [#20]

Zombs, from Apex but insane at every fps. If he was from CS he would have won 5 majors!

He would be gold nova 3

hekzy [#22]

He would be gold nova 3

weren't you that guy who was crying in the game threads after Fnatic got shat on? KEK! Zombs so good at anchoring sites that they were avoiding him at all costs!

williamm [#19]

well yeah, the game hasnt even been out for a year and a half, how are kids going to grow up playing valorant and get into pro teams in a year and a half? Of course ex CS pros are going to be dominant at the start; they already have mechanics and basic fundamentals since valorant and cs are the same genre of game. All they have to get used to is the new utility and agent comps

are there even any pros that started fps with valorant yet at all

i think literally only the guy that got benched from LG, ban

LouBag [#5]

Did yay and asuna play cs?

I think that pretty soon it’s going to come to the point we’re being good in CS doesn’t matter anymore. These young cracked kids are going to grow up on Valorant and dominate the scene.

yay was one of those players that was too good for T2 NA but not good enough for T1 international competition. doesnt help that coL sucked for like 5 years before they went full international

asuna was a known pugger on esea but only started being viewed as an upcoming talent right before valorant came out and he switched very early on.

Stop using cs as a comparison these are different games with similar movement and aim skill but other then that it’s all the mental and strats come up with, tenz used to choke on Lan cuz of his inexperience but now 2 years later he dominated LAN and won Iceland, they may be the same people we saw in cs but they’ve evolved and improved and we can’t compare them until it shows in Berlin and champions if the NA CS will happen in valorant also.

Scottyboi30 [#26]

Stop using cs as a comparison these are different games with similar movement and aim skill but other then that it’s all the mental and strats come up with, tenz used to choke on Lan cuz of his inexperience but now 2 years later he dominated LAN and won Iceland, they may be the same people we saw in cs but they’ve evolved and improved and we can’t compare them until it shows in Berlin and champions if the NA CS will happen in valorant also.

You can say that again +1

I don't usually comment on these things but there's just so many assumptions being thrown around lately. You can call my perspective bias or whatever.

To me it's just weird of all this stigma associated with where a player came from. Like frankly, who cares about their players and their backgrounds. Who cares if they were ex CS/Overwatch/Apex/Fortnite players ultimately? This is VALORANT and it's a different game favoring different skillsets. Some backgrounds translate better into this game in terms of what skillsets you need, but it's not a determiner by any means of what makes a good player in this game. Often you'll find that, the "best" players of another game aren't the best in this game. You'll find this in sports too where people try multiple sports before beginning to specialize in one.

Secondly in terms of the NA scene being washed, sure you can argue that the scene is a lot of former of professionals because it is. I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with that. For me, it was never a matter of not being able to compete in the CSGO scene. I had the talent and ability to do so, although I lacked at the time both the character and discipline to capitalize on that ability. I had a lot of issues in regards of how I acted towards others. Not to mention, I struggled outside the game with a lot of abuse/burden from both family and ex's. I ultimately have a lot of regrets of how I treated others and how I squandered opportunities till I had very/little to none left in the scene. Obviously everyone's story is different, but for me I'm ultimately a VALORANT player at the end of the day. I want to be remembered for what I do in VALORANT. I don't care about what happened in my CSGO period, I took what I can and made a conscious effort to not repeat similar mistakes and improve in different areas.

Finally, I think people care way too much about which region is stronger. Who knows what the future holds. It's fun to speculate- don't get me wrong. But this whole certainty of what's gonna happen in the future is just dumb. Who's to say that in a year VALORANT is released in China and a Chinese team takes the #1 spot. The meta shifts in this game every single patch/agent/map and that will favor different teams/regions as time progresses.

My excitement stems from wanting to play the best teams from around the world and to push myself to be better. I don't care if a region is superior, I just wanna play because it's fun.

yayster [#28]

I don't usually comment on these things but there's just so many assumptions being thrown around lately. You can call my perspective bias or whatever.

To me it's just weird of all this stigma associated with where a player came from. Like frankly, who cares about their players and their backgrounds. Who cares if they were ex CS/Overwatch/Apex/Fortnite players ultimately? This is VALORANT and it's a different game favoring different skillsets. Some backgrounds translate better into this game in terms of what skillsets you need, but it's not a determiner by any means of what makes a good player in this game. Often you'll find that, the "best" players of another game aren't the best in this game. You'll find this in sports too where people try multiple sports before beginning to specialize in one.

Secondly in terms of the NA scene being washed, sure you can argue that the scene is a lot of former of professionals because it is. I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with that. For me, it was never a matter of not being able to compete in the CSGO scene. I had the talent and ability to do so, although I lacked at the time both the character and discipline to capitalize on that ability. I had a lot of issues in regards of how I acted towards others. Not to mention, I struggled outside the game with a lot of abuse/burden from both family and ex's. I ultimately have a lot of regrets of how I treated others and how I squandered opportunities till I had very/little to none left in the scene. Obviously everyone's story is different, but for me I'm ultimately a VALORANT player at the end of the day. I want to be remembered for what I do in VALORANT. I don't care about what happened in my CSGO period, I took what I can and made a conscious effort to not repeat similar mistakes and improve in different areas.

Finally, I think people care way too much about which region is stronger. Who knows what the future holds. It's fun to speculate- don't get me wrong. But this whole certainty of what's gonna happen in the future is just dumb. Who's to say that in a year VALORANT is released in China and a Chinese team takes the #1 spot. The meta shifts in this game every single patch/agent/map and that will favor different teams/regions as time progresses.

My excitement stems from wanting to play the best teams from around the world and to push myself to be better. I don't care if a region is superior, I just wanna play because it's fun.

yay coming straight with the facts.

yayster [#28]

I don't usually comment on these things but there's just so many assumptions being thrown around lately. You can call my perspective bias or whatever.

To me it's just weird of all this stigma associated with where a player came from. Like frankly, who cares about their players and their backgrounds. Who cares if they were ex CS/Overwatch/Apex/Fortnite players ultimately? This is VALORANT and it's a different game favoring different skillsets. Some backgrounds translate better into this game in terms of what skillsets you need, but it's not a determiner by any means of what makes a good player in this game. Often you'll find that, the "best" players of another game aren't the best in this game. You'll find this in sports too where people try multiple sports before beginning to specialize in one.

Secondly in terms of the NA scene being washed, sure you can argue that the scene is a lot of former of professionals because it is. I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with that. For me, it was never a matter of not being able to compete in the CSGO scene. I had the talent and ability to do so, although I lacked at the time both the character and discipline to capitalize on that ability. I had a lot of issues in regards of how I acted towards others. Not to mention, I struggled outside the game with a lot of abuse/burden from both family and ex's. I ultimately have a lot of regrets of how I treated others and how I squandered opportunities till I had very/little to none left in the scene. Obviously everyone's story is different, but for me I'm ultimately a VALORANT player at the end of the day. I want to be remembered for what I do in VALORANT. I don't care about what happened in my CSGO period, I took what I can and made a conscious effort to not repeat similar mistakes and improve in different areas.

Finally, I think people care way too much about which region is stronger. Who knows what the future holds. It's fun to speculate- don't get me wrong. But this whole certainty of what's gonna happen in the future is just dumb. Who's to say that in a year VALORANT is released in China and a Chinese team takes the #1 spot. The meta shifts in this game every single patch/agent/map and that will favor different teams/regions as time progresses.

My excitement stems from wanting to play the best teams from around the world and to push myself to be better. I don't care if a region is superior, I just wanna play because it's fun.

EL DIABLO HAS SPOKEN

yayster [#28]

I don't usually comment on these things but there's just so many assumptions being thrown around lately. You can call my perspective bias or whatever.

To me it's just weird of all this stigma associated with where a player came from. Like frankly, who cares about their players and their backgrounds. Who cares if they were ex CS/Overwatch/Apex/Fortnite players ultimately? This is VALORANT and it's a different game favoring different skillsets. Some backgrounds translate better into this game in terms of what skillsets you need, but it's not a determiner by any means of what makes a good player in this game. Often you'll find that, the "best" players of another game aren't the best in this game. You'll find this in sports too where people try multiple sports before beginning to specialize in one.

Secondly in terms of the NA scene being washed, sure you can argue that the scene is a lot of former of professionals because it is. I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with that. For me, it was never a matter of not being able to compete in the CSGO scene. I had the talent and ability to do so, although I lacked at the time both the character and discipline to capitalize on that ability. I had a lot of issues in regards of how I acted towards others. Not to mention, I struggled outside the game with a lot of abuse/burden from both family and ex's. I ultimately have a lot of regrets of how I treated others and how I squandered opportunities till I had very/little to none left in the scene. Obviously everyone's story is different, but for me I'm ultimately a VALORANT player at the end of the day. I want to be remembered for what I do in VALORANT. I don't care about what happened in my CSGO period, I took what I can and made a conscious effort to not repeat similar mistakes and improve in different areas.

Finally, I think people care way too much about which region is stronger. Who knows what the future holds. It's fun to speculate- don't get me wrong. But this whole certainty of what's gonna happen in the future is just dumb. Who's to say that in a year VALORANT is released in China and a Chinese team takes the #1 spot. The meta shifts in this game every single patch/agent/map and that will favor different teams/regions as time progresses.

My excitement stems from wanting to play the best teams from around the world and to push myself to be better. I don't care if a region is superior, I just wanna play because it's fun.

Astralis best Valorant team 2022, Denmark >>> Every Region

schlong [#31]

Astralis best Valorant team 2022, Denmark >>> Every Region

Nah I come from the future, FPX drops their roster for a Chinese team and they shit on everyone and win Champions 2022

Ok rent free fake flagger

yayster [#28]

I don't usually comment on these things but there's just so many assumptions being thrown around lately. You can call my perspective bias or whatever.

To me it's just weird of all this stigma associated with where a player came from. Like frankly, who cares about their players and their backgrounds. Who cares if they were ex CS/Overwatch/Apex/Fortnite players ultimately? This is VALORANT and it's a different game favoring different skillsets. Some backgrounds translate better into this game in terms of what skillsets you need, but it's not a determiner by any means of what makes a good player in this game. Often you'll find that, the "best" players of another game aren't the best in this game. You'll find this in sports too where people try multiple sports before beginning to specialize in one.

Secondly in terms of the NA scene being washed, sure you can argue that the scene is a lot of former of professionals because it is. I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with that. For me, it was never a matter of not being able to compete in the CSGO scene. I had the talent and ability to do so, although I lacked at the time both the character and discipline to capitalize on that ability. I had a lot of issues in regards of how I acted towards others. Not to mention, I struggled outside the game with a lot of abuse/burden from both family and ex's. I ultimately have a lot of regrets of how I treated others and how I squandered opportunities till I had very/little to none left in the scene. Obviously everyone's story is different, but for me I'm ultimately a VALORANT player at the end of the day. I want to be remembered for what I do in VALORANT. I don't care about what happened in my CSGO period, I took what I can and made a conscious effort to not repeat similar mistakes and improve in different areas.

Finally, I think people care way too much about which region is stronger. Who knows what the future holds. It's fun to speculate- don't get me wrong. But this whole certainty of what's gonna happen in the future is just dumb. Who's to say that in a year VALORANT is released in China and a Chinese team takes the #1 spot. The meta shifts in this game every single patch/agent/map and that will favor different teams/regions as time progresses.

My excitement stems from wanting to play the best teams from around the world and to push myself to be better. I don't care if a region is superior, I just wanna play because it's fun.

Thanks for the reply Yay, do appreciate having your perspective on this, at the end of the day the conversation is important and to throw your input out on account of anything would be stupid to do. I agree wholeheartedly with the first paragraph, the game is different, thank God, and it allows for different playstyles and backgrounds to flourish whereas in another game they might not, and you're totally correct in that people will try different sports to see what they either enjoy/do best at.

As for the second, I think I threw out the word washed a little to hard, considering NA as a scene was on the decline so obviously peoples' careers weren't on the uptrend in it as North American teams. There's plenty that could have changed I'm sure, and at the end of the day the death of NA's CS scene came down to money in the immediate since the future of every team is never stable and especially in NA's case, there wasn't the will to wait it out for a team to come up and revitalize the region. I really appreciate your story about your growth not only as a player, but as a human being, it's a side that we as fans/viewers of the game do not see often, and for good reason at that considering some of the absolute lunatics that would surely come out in force. Nonetheless, I appreciate you spending the time to tell a bit of it.

I agree interregional play is speculated to an extreme currently, but I think the reason for that is that there has been zero, and with the Berlin Major right around the corner, it's something that is going to explode in popularity to speak of. As far as certainty is concerned though, you're correct, the only thing that is certain at the end of the day is change, whether that be in who performs better or worse, or what can be said with objectivity.

Thank you so very much for this response, your writing is actually really good. Apparently best Jet NA is also best writer NA. But aside from that, once again, your response is very insightful. Wish you best of luck in Berlin, you guys have been incredible playing recently.

Honestly, I feel like NA will be the dominant region for a while, at least for 2/3 years because is the most skilled region and has a good understanding of the fundamentals of the game, which is arguably the hardest part of Valorant.

mauge67 [#21]

its a shame no good players switched from eu expect scream,the competition would be so much more high level or it could just be NA and EU shitting on everyone else

Scream was washed af in CS tho

yayster [#28]

I don't usually comment on these things but there's just so many assumptions being thrown around lately. You can call my perspective bias or whatever.

To me it's just weird of all this stigma associated with where a player came from. Like frankly, who cares about their players and their backgrounds. Who cares if they were ex CS/Overwatch/Apex/Fortnite players ultimately? This is VALORANT and it's a different game favoring different skillsets. Some backgrounds translate better into this game in terms of what skillsets you need, but it's not a determiner by any means of what makes a good player in this game. Often you'll find that, the "best" players of another game aren't the best in this game. You'll find this in sports too where people try multiple sports before beginning to specialize in one.

Secondly in terms of the NA scene being washed, sure you can argue that the scene is a lot of former of professionals because it is. I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with that. For me, it was never a matter of not being able to compete in the CSGO scene. I had the talent and ability to do so, although I lacked at the time both the character and discipline to capitalize on that ability. I had a lot of issues in regards of how I acted towards others. Not to mention, I struggled outside the game with a lot of abuse/burden from both family and ex's. I ultimately have a lot of regrets of how I treated others and how I squandered opportunities till I had very/little to none left in the scene. Obviously everyone's story is different, but for me I'm ultimately a VALORANT player at the end of the day. I want to be remembered for what I do in VALORANT. I don't care about what happened in my CSGO period, I took what I can and made a conscious effort to not repeat similar mistakes and improve in different areas.

Finally, I think people care way too much about which region is stronger. Who knows what the future holds. It's fun to speculate- don't get me wrong. But this whole certainty of what's gonna happen in the future is just dumb. Who's to say that in a year VALORANT is released in China and a Chinese team takes the #1 spot. The meta shifts in this game every single patch/agent/map and that will favor different teams/regions as time progresses.

My excitement stems from wanting to play the best teams from around the world and to push myself to be better. I don't care if a region is superior, I just wanna play because it's fun.

waiting for the stream yaycob "yay" yayster

Netero [#12]

mans put up an american flag to type some BS KEKW

hate him all you want he's not wrong

SETSUZA [#24]

are there even any pros that started fps with valorant yet at all

i think literally only the guy that got benched from LG, ban

i doubt many would be, give it a few more years. since its the same style of game then all the ex csgo players are going to have a huge head start on anyone playing valorant as their first fps

yayster [#28]

I don't usually comment on these things but there's just so many assumptions being thrown around lately. You can call my perspective bias or whatever.

To me it's just weird of all this stigma associated with where a player came from. Like frankly, who cares about their players and their backgrounds. Who cares if they were ex CS/Overwatch/Apex/Fortnite players ultimately? This is VALORANT and it's a different game favoring different skillsets. Some backgrounds translate better into this game in terms of what skillsets you need, but it's not a determiner by any means of what makes a good player in this game. Often you'll find that, the "best" players of another game aren't the best in this game. You'll find this in sports too where people try multiple sports before beginning to specialize in one.

Secondly in terms of the NA scene being washed, sure you can argue that the scene is a lot of former of professionals because it is. I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with that. For me, it was never a matter of not being able to compete in the CSGO scene. I had the talent and ability to do so, although I lacked at the time both the character and discipline to capitalize on that ability. I had a lot of issues in regards of how I acted towards others. Not to mention, I struggled outside the game with a lot of abuse/burden from both family and ex's. I ultimately have a lot of regrets of how I treated others and how I squandered opportunities till I had very/little to none left in the scene. Obviously everyone's story is different, but for me I'm ultimately a VALORANT player at the end of the day. I want to be remembered for what I do in VALORANT. I don't care about what happened in my CSGO period, I took what I can and made a conscious effort to not repeat similar mistakes and improve in different areas.

Finally, I think people care way too much about which region is stronger. Who knows what the future holds. It's fun to speculate- don't get me wrong. But this whole certainty of what's gonna happen in the future is just dumb. Who's to say that in a year VALORANT is released in China and a Chinese team takes the #1 spot. The meta shifts in this game every single patch/agent/map and that will favor different teams/regions as time progresses.

My excitement stems from wanting to play the best teams from around the world and to push myself to be better. I don't care if a region is superior, I just wanna play because it's fun.

youre the best

who cars

We'll see about that

EU will lose to korea

EMEA will win Berlin.

LouBag [#5]

Did yay and asuna play cs?

I think that pretty soon it’s going to come to the point we’re being good in CS doesn’t matter anymore. These young cracked kids are going to grow up on Valorant and dominate the scene.

Yes.

yayster [#28]

I don't usually comment on these things but there's just so many assumptions being thrown around lately. You can call my perspective bias or whatever.

To me it's just weird of all this stigma associated with where a player came from. Like frankly, who cares about their players and their backgrounds. Who cares if they were ex CS/Overwatch/Apex/Fortnite players ultimately? This is VALORANT and it's a different game favoring different skillsets. Some backgrounds translate better into this game in terms of what skillsets you need, but it's not a determiner by any means of what makes a good player in this game. Often you'll find that, the "best" players of another game aren't the best in this game. You'll find this in sports too where people try multiple sports before beginning to specialize in one.

Secondly in terms of the NA scene being washed, sure you can argue that the scene is a lot of former of professionals because it is. I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with that. For me, it was never a matter of not being able to compete in the CSGO scene. I had the talent and ability to do so, although I lacked at the time both the character and discipline to capitalize on that ability. I had a lot of issues in regards of how I acted towards others. Not to mention, I struggled outside the game with a lot of abuse/burden from both family and ex's. I ultimately have a lot of regrets of how I treated others and how I squandered opportunities till I had very/little to none left in the scene. Obviously everyone's story is different, but for me I'm ultimately a VALORANT player at the end of the day. I want to be remembered for what I do in VALORANT. I don't care about what happened in my CSGO period, I took what I can and made a conscious effort to not repeat similar mistakes and improve in different areas.

Finally, I think people care way too much about which region is stronger. Who knows what the future holds. It's fun to speculate- don't get me wrong. But this whole certainty of what's gonna happen in the future is just dumb. Who's to say that in a year VALORANT is released in China and a Chinese team takes the #1 spot. The meta shifts in this game every single patch/agent/map and that will favor different teams/regions as time progresses.

My excitement stems from wanting to play the best teams from around the world and to push myself to be better. I don't care if a region is superior, I just wanna play because it's fun.

A lot of this mainly highlights a difference in perspective due to a difference in lived experience. What a pro player should care about is not equal to what a viewer should care about. You are on the right track by focusing on your own journey and what your identity as a player is, none of which is defined by viewers, only you.

Viewers care about regional differences because they are juicy storylines. Viewers care about player history because of juicy storylines. Viewers like speculation, because it deepens their engagement in those storylines. Viewers exist to be entertained, pro players exist to entertain by being the best competitors they can be while hopefully make a living doing so. Viewers are observers, competitors are agents.

ms0ra [#44]

EMEA will win Berlin.

EMEA is 3 regions in 1...

Netero [#23]

weren't you that guy who was crying in the game threads after Fnatic got shat on? KEK! Zombs so good at anchoring sites that they were avoiding him at all costs!

zombs so good at anchoring his team

Just because NA doesn't have a slew of different teams qualify doesn't mean they are washed. Your argument is that because EMEA has different teams that are contending and knocking out previous Master's teams, that they are the better region. Sentinels are just the outright dominant team in the region and the world as they have proved.

It's good for the game that there is competition rising in every region. I might be a Sentinels fan but I like seeing close games. I'm rooting for all teams at Berlin. This is just proof that Valorant is growing and thriving.

Ic1 [#36]

Scream was washed af in CS tho

ik but hes still arguably one of the best in eu,now imagine if even someone like ropz switched it would be gg

ExodusXML [#3]

Relative to the legacy, resources, and time that all of the massive European teams have, they are incredibly new. Fnatic has existed forever at this point, Liquid as well, G2 is obvious as well. It's relative to the massive teams from Europe who were on top not even a year ago.

Are you talking about the orgs? Ascend was founded a year prior to Sentinels.

EU_quiet [#33]

Ok rent free fake flagger

rent free, you're name is literally EU quiet.

GetsystheGr8 [#47]

EMEA is 3 regions in 1...

Exactly the whole of EMEA will win

hekzy [#48]

zombs so good at anchoring his team

anchoring the team to 1st place, or...?

mauge67 [#50]

ik but hes still arguably one of the best in eu,now imagine if even someone like ropz switched it would be gg

I want s1mple to win 3 majors in a row and switch to val, he would own the scene with 2+ kd for sure

williamm [#39]

i doubt many would be, give it a few more years. since its the same style of game then all the ex csgo players are going to have a huge head start on anyone playing valorant as their first fps

Keloqz from G2, Al0rante and Monster from TH, Magnum? from Fnatic, idk.

idkmate99 [#54]

anchoring the team to 1st place, or...?

anchoring the team from winning 13-0 every game

goated prediction

Whatever, just wait for TSM

NA has more talent in this game than most other regions. Tenz, Yay, Leaf, Xeppa, Asuna ... besides EU most regions only have 1 or 2 players like that, that alone should keep them top 2 for a while.

bronzil71 [#60]

NA has more talent in this game than most other regions. Tenz, Yay, Leaf, Xeppa, Asuna ... besides EU most regions only have 1 or 2 players like that, that alone should keep them top 2 for a while.

Wrong eu has way more young talent

blicey [#61]

Wrong eu has way more young talent

Trolling or preschool reading comprehension?

i started following valorant competitive scene just before master 3 Berlin. so, i watched EMEA and NA qualifier and quickly gambit caught my eyes because they play as a unit the most during qualifier imo. Them winning master 3 makes me like the team more.