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Champions Tour North America Stage 3: Challengers 2

Main Event: Upper Quarterfinals

Thursday, July 29th

3:00 PM EDT

Patch 3.01

Gen.G

[1824]

final

1 : 2

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Bo3

TSM

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GEN ban Ascent; TSM ban Breeze; GEN pick Bind; TSM pick Split; GEN pick Icebox

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1 Bind

2 Split

3 Icebox

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	WARDELL TSM	LeviathanAG TSM	hazed TSM	bang TSM	Subroza TSM
NaturE GEN	13 13 +0	15 9 +6	14 10 +4	11 13 -2	21 10 +11
gMd GEN	12 13 -1	17 9 +8	14 17 -3	20 10 +10	19 12 +7
koosta GEN	13 19 -6	11 8 +3	10 9 +1	8 8 +0	11 16 -5
Shawn12590 GEN	9 15 -6	9 3 +6	10 12 -2	13 17 -4	15 18 -3
MkaeL GEN	7 16 -9	10 10 +0	8 14 -6	9 12 -3	4 11 -7

	WARDELL TSM	LeviathanAG TSM	hazed TSM	bang TSM	Subroza TSM
NaturE GEN	1 2 -1	1 2 -1	0 1 -1		2 0 +2
gMd GEN	0 3 -3	2 1 +1	2 4 -2	2 0 +2	1 0 +1
koosta GEN	1 3 -2	1 2 -1	0 2 -2		3 3 +0
Shawn12590 GEN	0 5 -5	2 1 +1	4 3 +1	0 3 -3	2 5 -3
MkaeL GEN	0 7 -7	4 1 +3	3 2 +1	2 2 +0	0 1 -1

	WARDELL TSM	LeviathanAG TSM	hazed TSM	bang TSM	Subroza TSM
NaturE GEN	0 6 -6			1 0 +1	1 0 +1
gMd GEN	0 6 -6
koosta GEN	0 10 -10
Shawn12590 GEN	0 7 -7
MkaeL GEN	0 11 -11

	2K	3K	4K	5K	1v1	1v2	1v3	1v4	ECON	PL	DE
MkaeL GEN	5	1					1		28	5	2
gMd GEN	16	5		1					62	4	1
Shawn12590 GEN	13	2			2		1		45	1	3
NaturE GEN	9	5	2		1	2			45	8	5
koosta GEN	9	3							41	6	0
WARDELL TSM	15	2	1		2				57	3	2
hazed TSM	12		3						63	4	1
Subroza TSM	10	4	2						52	8	1
bang TSM	8	3	2		1	1	1		47	10	1
LeviathanAG TSM	7				1			1	34	3	1

	WARDELL TSM	LeviathanAG TSM	hazed TSM	bang TSM	Subroza TSM
NaturE GEN	3 1 +2	4 3 +1	4 3 +1	2 4 -2	3 3 +0
gMd GEN	6 1 +5	5 3 +2	4 5 -1	4 3 +1	7 2 +5
koosta GEN	2 4 -2	3 1 +2	5 6 -1	0 4 -4	3 2 +1
Shawn12590 GEN	6 3 +3	2 0 +2	3 2 +1	4 4 +0	4 6 -2
MkaeL GEN	1 4 -3	3 1 +2	0 6 -6	6 4 +2	1 1 +0

	WARDELL TSM	LeviathanAG TSM	hazed TSM	bang TSM	Subroza TSM
NaturE GEN		0 1 -1	0 1 -1		1 0 +1
gMd GEN	0 1 -1		0 1 -1	1 0 +1	1 0 +1
koosta GEN	1 1 +0		0 2 -2		2 2 +0
Shawn12590 GEN	0 1 -1	1 0 +1
MkaeL GEN	0 1 -1	1 0 +1	0 1 -1	2 1 +1

	WARDELL TSM	LeviathanAG TSM	hazed TSM	bang TSM	Subroza TSM
NaturE GEN
gMd GEN	0 1 -1
koosta GEN	0 2 -2
Shawn12590 GEN	0 1 -1
MkaeL GEN	0 3 -3

	2K	3K	4K	1v1	1v2	1v3	ECON	PL	DE
MkaeL GEN	2 Round 1 bang LeviathanAG Round 4 bang WARDELL					1 Round 5 LeviathanAG hazed bang	31	2	0
gMd GEN	4 Round 5 Subroza WARDELL Round 17 Subroza LeviathanAG Round 20 WARDELL Subroza Round 22 LeviathanAG bang	4 Round 3 bang WARDELL hazed Round 16 Subroza bang hazed Round 18 Subroza bang LeviathanAG Round 21 hazed LeviathanAG Subroza					85	1	0
Shawn12590 GEN	4 Round 1 hazed Subroza Round 12 LeviathanAG Shawn12590 Round 13 bang WARDELL Round 23 hazed bang	1 Round 19 WARDELL bang Subroza		1 Round 23 bang			50	0	1
NaturE GEN	1 Round 15 hazed WARDELL	1 Round 20 bang hazed LeviathanAG	1 Round 11 bang LeviathanAG Subroza WARDELL	1 Round 20 LeviathanAG	1 Round 11 WARDELL Subroza		46	2	1
koosta GEN	2 Round 4 hazed LeviathanAG Round 13 Subroza hazed	1 Round 7 Subroza hazed LeviathanAG					38	1	0
WARDELL TSM	4 Round 9 NaturE Shawn12590 Round 10 gMd MkaeL Round 11 koosta Shawn12590 Round 12 koosta MkaeL						56	1	0
hazed TSM	4 Round 7 gMd MkaeL Round 9 koosta gMd Round 16 koosta MkaeL Round 21 MkaeL NaturE		2 Round 5 koosta Shawn12590 gMd MkaeL hazed Round 22 koosta gMd MkaeL NaturE				80	1	0
Subroza TSM	3 Round 3 NaturE Shawn12590 Round 12 gMd NaturE Round 16 NaturE Shawn12590	1 Round 20 koosta Shawn12590 MkaeL					52	3	0
bang TSM	3 Round 10 Shawn12590 NaturE Round 15 MkaeL NaturE Round 18 koosta Shawn12590	1 Round 8 koosta Shawn12590 gMd	1 Round 23 MkaeL gMd NaturE koosta	1 Round 21 gMd		1 Round 15 Shawn12590 NaturE gMd	51	1	0
LeviathanAG TSM	1 Round 17 MkaeL koosta			1 Round 16 gMd			35	0	0

	WARDELL TSM	LeviathanAG TSM	hazed TSM	bang TSM	Subroza TSM
NaturE GEN	8 9 -1	7 4 +3	10 3 +7	6 5 +1	14 4 +10
gMd GEN	4 7 -3	9 4 +5	4 5 -1	11 5 +6	6 8 -2
koosta GEN	6 11 -5	4 6 -2	5 2 +3	8 3 +5	3 6 -3
Shawn12590 GEN	2 6 -4	3 3 +0	4 6 -2	5 10 -5	9 6 +3
MkaeL GEN	4 8 -4	6 3 +3	6 6 +0	2 5 -3	1 6 -5

	WARDELL TSM	LeviathanAG TSM	hazed TSM	bang TSM	Subroza TSM
NaturE GEN	1 1 +0	0 1 -1			1 0 +1
gMd GEN	0 1 -1	2 1 +1		1 0 +1
koosta GEN		1 2 -1
Shawn12590 GEN	0 3 -3	1 1 +0	3 2 +1	0 3 -3	1 3 -2
MkaeL GEN	0 3 -3	2 1 +1	3 1 +2	0 1 -1

	WARDELL TSM	LeviathanAG TSM	hazed TSM	bang TSM	Subroza TSM
NaturE GEN	0 5 -5			1 0 +1	1 0 +1
gMd GEN	0 3 -3
koosta GEN	0 7 -7
Shawn12590 GEN	0 3 -3
MkaeL GEN	0 5 -5

	2K	3K	4K	1v1	1v2	1v4	ECON	PL	DE
MkaeL GEN	2 Round 25 hazed WARDELL Round 35 hazed LeviathanAG	1 Round 1 Subroza bang WARDELL					29	2	1
gMd GEN	7 Round 9 hazed LeviathanAG Round 10 bang LeviathanAG gMd Round 22 hazed WARDELL Round 23 LeviathanAG bang Round 25 bang Subroza Round 36 Subroza WARDELL Round 39 Subroza WARDELL	1 Round 2 Subroza hazed WARDELL					43	2	1
Shawn12590 GEN	8 Round 4 Subroza hazed Round 8 Subroza bang Round 11 hazed LeviathanAG Round 16 hazed bang Round 31 LeviathanAG Subroza Round 32 Subroza bang Round 33 bang WARDELL Round 37 Subroza bang			1 Round 33 WARDELL			36	0	1
NaturE GEN	7 Round 12 Subroza hazed Round 13 Subroza hazed Round 20 hazed WARDELL Round 24 hazed bang Round 30 hazed LeviathanAG Round 37 LeviathanAG WARDELL Round 39 hazed bang	3 Round 5 bang WARDELL Subroza Round 9 Subroza bang WARDELL Round 18 WARDELL Subroza LeviathanAG	1 Round 27 Subroza WARDELL LeviathanAG bang		1 Round 9 WARDELL bang		49	3	4
koosta GEN	5 Round 8 LeviathanAG WARDELL Round 13 WARDELL bang Round 15 Subroza WARDELL Round 30 bang WARDELL Round 38 LeviathanAG bang	2 Round 11 bang WARDELL Subroza Round 12 LeviathanAG bang WARDELL					40	2	0
WARDELL TSM	8 Round 16 gMd NaturE Round 19 MkaeL NaturE Round 20 Shawn12590 koosta Round 25 NaturE gMd Round 29 NaturE gMd Round 32 MkaeL koosta Round 33 koosta NaturE Round 34 MkaeL gMd	1 Round 14 MkaeL NaturE koosta	1 Round 17 Shawn12590 koosta NaturE MkaeL	2 Round 3 koosta Round 16 NaturE			51	1	2
hazed TSM	5 Round 3 NaturE gMd Round 8 MkaeL Shawn12590 Round 15 Shawn12590 koosta Round 21 gMd NaturE Round 23 MkaeL gMd						37	2	0
Subroza TSM	4 Round 7 koosta gMd Round 21 Shawn12590 MkaeL Round 26 koosta gMd Round 36 koosta MkaeL	2 Round 16 Shawn12590 koosta MkaeL Round 23 koosta Shawn12590 NaturE	1 Round 28 Shawn12590 gMd koosta MkaeL				40	3	1
bang TSM	3 Round 30 Shawn12590 MkaeL Round 36 NaturE gMd Round 38 NaturE MkaeL	1 Round 24 Shawn12590 gMd koosta	1 Round 40 gMd Shawn12590 NaturE koosta		1 Round 36 NaturE gMd		39	2	1
LeviathanAG TSM	3 Round 9 koosta MkaeL Round 11 koosta NaturE Round 20 gMd NaturE					1 Round 10 Shawn12590 NaturE koosta gMd	32	3	1

	WARDELL TSM	LeviathanAG TSM	hazed TSM	bang TSM	Subroza TSM
NaturE GEN	2 3 -1	4 2 +2	0 4 -4	3 4 -1	4 3 +1
gMd GEN	2 5 -3	3 2 +1	6 7 -1	5 2 +3	6 2 +4
koosta GEN	5 4 +1	4 1 +3	0 1 -1	0 1 -1	5 8 -3
Shawn12590 GEN	1 6 -5	4 0 +4	3 4 -1	4 3 +1	2 6 -4
MkaeL GEN	2 4 -2	1 6 -5	2 2 +0	1 3 -2	2 4 -2

	WARDELL TSM	LeviathanAG TSM	hazed TSM	bang TSM	Subroza TSM
NaturE GEN	0 1 -1	1 0 +1
gMd GEN	0 1 -1		2 3 -1
koosta GEN	0 2 -2				1 1 +0
Shawn12590 GEN	0 1 -1		1 1 +0		1 2 -1
MkaeL GEN	0 3 -3	1 0 +1			0 1 -1

	WARDELL TSM	LeviathanAG TSM	hazed TSM	bang TSM	Subroza TSM
NaturE GEN	0 1 -1
gMd GEN	0 2 -2
koosta GEN	0 1 -1
Shawn12590 GEN	0 3 -3
MkaeL GEN	0 3 -3

	2K	3K	4K	5K	1v3	ECON	PL	DE
MkaeL GEN	1 Round 13 hazed WARDELL					24	1	1
gMd GEN	5 Round 3 bang Subroza Round 4 Subroza LeviathanAG Round 6 hazed bang Round 14 Subroza bang Round 17 WARDELL Subroza			1 Round 1 WARDELL hazed bang Subroza LeviathanAG		57	1	0
Shawn12590 GEN	1 Round 13 Subroza bang	1 Round 18 Subroza WARDELL bang			1 Round 18 WARDELL bang Subroza	48	1	1
NaturE GEN	1 Round 19 Subroza WARDELL	1 Round 10 LeviathanAG bang Subroza				41	3	0
koosta GEN	2 Round 2 Subroza WARDELL Round 6 LeviathanAG WARDELL					46	3	0
WARDELL TSM	3 Round 11 Shawn12590 NaturE Round 12 MkaeL Shawn12590 Round 23 MkaeL Shawn12590	1 Round 15 koosta NaturE Shawn12590				63	1	0
hazed TSM	3 Round 18 gMd koosta Round 21 gMd NaturE Round 22 gMd MkaeL		1 Round 9 gMd Shawn12590 NaturE MkaeL			71	1	1
Subroza TSM	3 Round 5 NaturE Shawn12590 Round 10 MkaeL koosta Round 20 koosta NaturE	1 Round 8 Shawn12590 NaturE koosta	1 Round 19 MkaeL gMd Shawn12590 koosta			63	2	0
bang TSM	2 Round 16 NaturE MkaeL Round 20 Shawn12590 MkaeL	1 Round 22 Shawn12590 Shawn12590 NaturE				50	7	0
LeviathanAG TSM	3 Round 14 koosta MkaeL Round 15 MkaeL gMd Round 17 NaturE MkaeL					35	0	0

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2021/04/18

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Asphyxia

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GEN.G 2-0

gMd brimstone lurk too strong.

EDIT: Guys remember that this GEN.G is with Nature now. No Huynh so this team plays very differently. Like they have much more flexible comps and honestly if they play their cards right. They could literally play any style they want. I wonder what they'll pull out but it could really be anything so all vods on this team are probably going to be useless and if the GEN.G coach helps the team enough. Then they can probably counter how TSM plays without TSM ever knowing how they play.

But this is just speculation. I think this'll still be a close game but probably GEN.G win.

Also I'm going to guess the pick and bans and who wins. But GEN.G is changing a ton same with TSM so this'll prob be all wrong.

REMEMBER THIS IS MEANT TO BE PEPEGA IF WRONG KEKW.

GEN.G win 2-1.

GEN.G ban Ascent. (They've started banning it near the end of challengers 2 and honestly I think their Ascent also looked pretty eh compared to their other maps)
TSM ban Breeze. (Well I would think they do this unless they start learning the map in which case this'll have the preds change a ton.)

GEN.G pick Bind. GEN.G win 13-9. TSM pick defense. (This sounds like a completely dumb idea but honestly they did try to have an interesting comp on this map so I think they might try to develop it. And I liked how they played it.)

TSM pick Haven. TSM win 13-11. GEN.G pick defense. (TSM starts being pepega and let GEN.G go from 5-11 when TSM are at 12.)

GEN.G pick Split or Icebox. Whichever they start practicing. I think TSM would pick attack for Icebox and defense for Split like any normal team. If Split. I think GEN.G take this in over time 15-13. If on Icebox I think it's a 13-8. (GEN.G might pick Split or Icebox instead first but who knows. I feel like GEN.G has so much time to practice and scrim and if the team just works on some maps to make them very complete. TSM probably lose.)

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SENBobstar

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GenG shit on TSM, always did, always will.

EDIT: Gonna stick with my answer, y'all be embarrassed in a few hours

EDIT: What I mean is TSM choke LMAO, downvote me all u want TSM fans...

EDIT: TSM actually won LMAO, 23-21 isn't something to brag about tho, gonna get shit on later in the brackets, shit team, shit org, shit placements

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Aris

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always did huh look at the HEAD-TO-HEAD thing tsm beat them 2 times in in a row

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Crayzid

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TSM - 8
Gen.G - 3

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Zoxlr

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Fr 8-4 record 1 being bo1 “gen g always shit on tsm” dumbass sen fans 😂

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Zoxlr

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Literally other way around tsm beat gen 8 times gen g beat tsm 4 times and 2 of those are bo1 delusional sen fans 💀

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Andrew412

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stop going so hard the sen fans remember they only know how to say sen best and tenz best they dont any other words.

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CrimsonPride

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are you fked in the head? lmfao

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Zoxlr

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its a sen fan all of them are fucked in head

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karmakek

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you are not the clown you are the whole circus

#141

Retaliative

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Why is it always has to be a sentinel fan....lmfao

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dreski

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finally a 100t fan who has respect

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karmakek

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this aged well lmao retard

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Excaliburn

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Aged very well

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Pemetro

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So you were saying...?

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mAko

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embarrassing to say the least

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Zoxlr

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edit: ima delusional sen fan whos always wrong

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wanted

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flair?

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mAko

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The same can be said bout tsm tho. This is not the tsm that they faced, better players and a new coach. So everything is up in the air for me

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Asphyxia

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Yea. But they have vods of TSM against ABX and DZ. Honestly both not super bad teams. And since TSM were pushed to 3rd map both times. TSM was most definitely challenged. And I find it hard to believe that TSM can do so much in like 6 days or so. Maybe they can. But I think GEN.G have a big advantage here even if it's very up in the air.

#130

BenjiZ___

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and u consider that u are a tsm fan? I'm saying this because of ur flag lmao

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Asphyxia

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No lmao. I lost the bet that they'd lose to ABX. I didn't bet money bc I'm broke af. I just bet my flair on it. And it's a big sadge. :(

#153

Sheharwa

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GL Both teams But Gen.G really have the more dominant playstyle

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Asphyxia

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OOO SPLIT. Interesting.

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Asphyxia

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1 round off from perfect pred on the first map. I'm still expecting 13-11 from TSM though. Let's see what happens.

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Neonsharoo123

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GAHAHAHAHHAHHAHA

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Super0609

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yessir

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Asphyxia

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Yikes Mkael

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Gumm0o1

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Far L 🤡

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Asphyxia

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Hey at least Gen.G doesn't lose pistol rounds KEKW. I mean I'll acknowledge that TSM are tier 1 now(Barely, I could still consider them Tier 1.5 because they have only taken down 3 teams so far.). But Yikes. Mkael. I mean. Like I knew this guy was bad. But how. Do. U. Throw. That. Hard.

#269

Hinata_Shoyo

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paragraph wasted KEKW

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yungjeezy

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ratio

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tsmftxtoberlin

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So would this match be Gen.G vs TSM?

Asphyxia

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I don't believe so.

BuffX4

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I'm not 100% sure how this works, but unless BBG 2-1 T1, TSM would be the only team to lose two maps in the open meaning they would be the 8 seed, right?

Asphyxia

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I'm pretty sure the brackets are just like different seeds. And it's not based off of win loss on maps. So I don't believe that TSM are playing here but who knows.

No_Comments

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Seed is decided by Match win, Map win, Round win and pre tournament seeding in decreasing order of priority. Hence everyone qualifying will have 5-0 in matches, as per map win, TSM will be seeded last. So that makes pretty much plausible for TSM vs GenG.

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Asphyxia

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Bro why are people downvoting me. I genuinely thought that it wasn't. It wasn't even like troll or bait Sadge.

FilthyAnimal

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prob GenG win

#89

Mahj0ngMaster

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I kinda wanna see tsm win here for some reason. Don’t know why

#104

phydeva

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Bruh u always want the underdog to win its common human emotion

#125

Murphy

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both teams are underdogs

blicey

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GenG 10-0

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nOonEdefeaT

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Love to see that GenG gonna win more maps than there is in the game

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blicey

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nah im from the future we got Rust, Mirror, Dome, and Board as the last 4 maps

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Mahj0ngMaster

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Those maps low key sound legit lmao

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Asphyxia

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Yo are you mixing up Board and Checkers. I thought Board was released as the 11th map. I think they look quite similar but it's sad to see them being mixed up. Checkers was such a good map. Unlucky really. NaVi really went on a roll on that map. And Astralis flopped when that map was brought into rotation.

#117

blicey

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wait ur totally right it completely slipped my mind, sorry Australis is one of my favorite teams so it had made me really sad when they didnt run the meta of 5 duelists jn Checkers and lost against MIBR

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Asphyxia

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Ah sorry I think I was mixing up the top region aka OCE with an inferior region aka EU. I meant to say Australs. I was just watching so many Astralis vods recently that I accidentally wrote them in. Astralis somehow fluked their way Masters Tokyo though. Unlucky really that they lost to MiBR which were filled with washed boomers aka ex-Gamelanders squad. They looked so brainless but I guess the meta was too strong. Astralis just threw away the game with trying to use whatever the new agent was. Apparently it was based off of a washed team called Sentinels so they tried to make it very reactionary. But it just ended up being shit.

On another note. NaVi looked insane bro. How did they rush B 15 rounds in a row and beat fucking Australs. No way they did that. Superior tactics from the god and IGL simple I guess.

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blicey

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IDK all ik is that B on checkers needs to be fixed, especially when the 2nd newest agent Gigabyte rushes it, his laser beams make it impossible to use the Famas which is debatably the best gun in the game right now

#129

Asphyxia

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Bro what are you talking about. Famas is only A tier. So overrated. We know that Vandale is S tier. All the pro's such as Gtn and Potter are calling it really bad in it's current state. But I think it is really strong with it's 10 tap potential. And yes Gigabyte is too op on that map. I have no idea why. It encourages very strategic strats such as rush b cyka blyad or rush a cyka blyad but rush a cyka blyad is very weak at the moment and Astralis were trying to use it on that strat. And they had a very good defense though. Literally up 23-0. How did they throw this bro. Astralis should just go back to LoL.

#133

DogeForPres

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I don't want to live in a world where potter is a top pro

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Asphyxia

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Wdym. Best player NA. Idk how such a good player from NA even exists.

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ritdro2211

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tsm vs geng gonna be a very nice and fiesty game
could go either way

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WitLitning

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tsm dunks on gen.g if they end up playing. i see a lot of comments for tsm vs V1, though, on the other page.

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mattgg2015

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GenG 2-1

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Aris

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TSM 2-0 GENG

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gweees

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Gen.G 2-1

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Netero

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tsm with vods now??? 2-1 GenG

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sampenn1

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lol faxx mce got the fatty setups

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dignityx3

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TSM 2-0 GENG

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Asphyxia

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NaBetter

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cloud9bluefan

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Geng Easy

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gradualhorizon

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Excited for this match up, I can see either GenG winning 2-1 or TSM winning 2-0 but with close matches once again to stress out all their fans. Either way, good luck to both.

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Maniax19

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this is actually the first time i see a sen fan not saying dumb shit lol

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Ahmed_Fadel

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Wtf how u r a sen fan????

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Crayzid

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im sick and tired of TSM vs Gen.G this is scripted for sure.
anyway 2-1 could go either way, hoping TSM wins tho

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mAko

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At this point its for views

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Crayzid

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ayyyy

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mAko

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AGAINNN?

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Aris

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ya man we play geng evrey time man

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Zoxlr

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ez tsm win

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teilwal

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JUICY game, I think geng take this but could be close

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dogegamer

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GENG 2-0 TSM can take icebox maybe

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WitLitning

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just like we took icebox against abx…

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Zaynio

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TSM 2-0. I know scrims don't mean shit but it was a big slap each scrim we saw basically.

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cyclone221

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Will be a great matchup could go either way gonna definitely go to 3 maps.

#27

plas

-1

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GENG 2-0

#28

unchained66x

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TSM is literally GenG's father, they never win, TSM 2-0

#29

Yagami

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So it's going to be : Bind, Haven and Icebox. Unless TSM bans Bind instead of Breeze. And Gen.G is going to ban Ascent for sure.

#40

Bricckk

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My guess is the same TSM have been banning Breeze and Geng can play it so it will probably be Bind,Haven,Icebox

#31

yunoo

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why do TSM and GenG always end up against eachother lol

#32

teezmageez

-5

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TSM 2-0 GEN.G NO CYAP

#47

pewpew

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Just from that "NO CYAP" and I know you are from Subroza stream lmao.

#103

Abdul

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TOO true the NO CYAP but people say no cap

#33

drabr420

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if they play breeze 😬 geng free map

#34

blicey

-1

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GenG 2-1, 2-0 if TSM play bad

#35

Aris

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2-0 for TSM

#36

redlotus

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TSM was dogging gen.g in scrims which means im predicting a gen.g 2-1 win

#37

Bricckk

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where did you get this from?

#38

redlotus

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there was a couple times the scrim result was posted between iceland and now and tsm was always winning

#39

blicey

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c9 was dominating xset in scrims and they still got slurped dry

#41

redlotus

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thats why I said gen g wins 2-1 lmao

#42

majincringe

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i wanna have hope in tsm that they can win but their performance against some lesser teams wasnt very convincing

#91

Yagami

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Idc whatever but I just want TSM to get that Top 4 spot. Let's see

#43

gangstacool

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I don't want Gen G to win, but lets be real, they probably will.

#45

TSMFTXFAN123

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2-1 TSMWIN

#48

pewpew

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Has TSM ever gotten an easy bracket lol. Although it doesn't matter cuz they need to beat 2 teams to qualify.

#49

WitLitning

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we're going to SHIT on Gen.G

#50

pewpew

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hopefully cuz they strong strong without Huynh

#52

camcars

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but we're also reformed with levi and bang

#53

pewpew

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they have had more time to practice i guess. And also our coach Chet seems so lost with counter strats. Felt like TSM didn't prepare for DZ strats at all. DZ was using the same shit from previous matches and still clapped TSM...

#61

WitLitning

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tsm is strong strong without drone and cutler ;)

#87

connorwalsh

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They're not so strong. I don't see analysts job in TSM. Not micros/macros against DZ. I hope analysts work their 4$S off

#51

Fon

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TSM 2-1
Prayge

#155

Tsrjas

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Finally a realistic fellow TSM fan.

#54

pewpew

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...

#55

Derkshu

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GenG will probably win but I want TSM to win

#56

vern

-1

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Perfect track record vs GEN.G for TSM which can only mean 1 thing... 2-1 GEN.G

#62

pewpew

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I remember TSM losing 2-1 to GenG is Masters 1 challengers 2 tho? I might be wrong but they definitely lost to them once in a clutch match.

#96

vern

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ur right.. https://www.vlr.gg/10243/tsm-vs-gen-g-champions-tour-north-america-stage-1-challengers-2-qf

#57

Sentin_Val

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It's been awhile that these two teams fought.

#58

gl1tch

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Here we are
Once again

#59

Hunt

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El classico
TSM new roster new look, hoping for a clean 2-0 W
Probably a close 2-1

#60

Fire737

-1

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Geng 2-0 because geng played well against sentinels

#66

alum

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wardell gapped huynh so hard last time he had to leave, lets see wardell kick another player off gen g

#67

BerZergg

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feels like geng should win this but then again tsm always seems to find a way to beat geng somehow...Man am I confused af...

#68

AllAimNoBrain

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My pick’em https://www.vlr.gg/pickem/285cac65
I just used my intuition

#69

Zaynio

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Fair, but you don't think T1 will make it that far?

#78

whatspoppin

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big hopes for tsm against t1 teams kekw

#95

vern

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really think TSM takes it all? Seen a lot of non-Tsm fans say that

#73

adityanambiar08

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Tsm 2-1 gng

#74

cnfpsworstfps

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es for gen.g 2-0

#75

sheeesh_gamer

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2-0 tsm

#77

Fire737

-3

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In your dream

#79

Rizvi

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TSM 17 - 7 GEN G
If we count the maps they have played against each other

It would be 19 - 7 in 3 days. No Cap!

#80

NightMonkey

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tooo esy for the bois

#82

wanted

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hoping geng wins this

#83

Wisdom31

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#TSMWIN

#84

rxylus

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2-1 TSM roza diff

#85

mAko

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The last time they played each other, wardell ended someone's career

#86

Aris

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TSM 2-0 Wardel ending someone's career again

#90

LNG

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Gen G 2-1 close game all maps

#92

Yagami

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Comparing recent games I think among both, TSM is strong on Ascent, Haven, Icebox and Gen.G is on Bind and Breeze and Split is rng. Let's see what is the map selection.

#93

swaglord69

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tbh i think tsm can win this challengers

#97

thebrownlegend

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i do too. they can def beat v1

#94

leleuu

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Nice run tsm

#98

TSMAL1X

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I believe in my team, at least i hope they not gonna be 13-0 both maps
Even against all the odds TSM 2-1 GenG

#101

drabr420

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2-1 geng 13-11 9-13 15-13 maps: bind haven and spilt

#116

Asphyxia

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Yo. How did we have the same exact preds almost. I went to check the comment section below like right now and I edited my comment like 7 hours ago. kekwut.

#102

alum

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Only competition TSM has is V1 and possibly luminosity(since they always play like shit against them) best of luck though

#111

Zaynio

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haven't TSM only played LG like once?

#106

kurama3x

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TSM 2-1 or 2-0

#108

PotatoKing__

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they were winning 9-1 vs geng in scrims a few weeks ago

#109

sheesh_gamer

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This is light work for TSM...

#112

WitLitning

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I've predicted losses for my own damn team from 303 Esports and Squirtle Squad all the way up to DarkZero. They keep winning instead, and i'm not tryna jinx anything, so: No way tsm can beat gen.g! No shot they can beat a team that they routinely shit on with even their old roster.

#114

Crayzid

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yeah bro theyre gonna get destroyed... Gmd too stronk

#113

sheeesh_gamer

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Very easy for tsm imo.

#118

item

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TSM win this matchup even though I think Gen.G look more solid atm, Gen.G always seem to struggle against TSM.

#119

TSM_FOREVER

-1

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TSM on top

#120

TSM_FOREVER

-2

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TSM

#123

Xupra

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Another classic match up!

#126

M4trix

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Gonna be a close series I expect some OTs and some 13-11 ish
# #

#128

drabr420

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el clasico

#131

BenjiZ___

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TSM 2-1 GENG

#139

Aris

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TSM 2-1 or 2-0 ez for WARDELL

#140

Kiko

-4

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GENG 2-1 TSM
13 - 7 GenG map 1
13 - 11 TSM map 2
13 - 10 GenG map 3

#144

Zaynio

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you are the first person with a faze flair that I've seen in a while....

#147

Kiko

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only faze fan world sadge

#149

Zaynio

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unlucky really

#143

sheesh_gamer

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LET'S GO TSM

#145

OGBabyboy

-4

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Easy for Gen.G NO KYAAAAAP

#146

Aris

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2-0 for TSM EZ CLAP

#148

Goldenoodles31

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can someone tell me who is tsm igl
idk if it's still hazed or not

#150

rivr

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it's still hazed

#151

Zaynio

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Its hazed but from Wardells coms video, it seemed like Wardell was calling some shots.

#152

WitLitning

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hazed is def the official IGL, but everyone is calling shots from what i saw. they all have good ideas (so far) and work well together. roza and levi are unofficial “secondary IGLs” since they play info agents in sova and skye.

#154

Skyyy21

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Pagman

#156

Kepin

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Leviathan diff.

TSM Win 2-1

#157

Qurfet

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#TSMWIN

#158

Mbappe

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Unlucky seedings, first Sentinels and now probably the best possible opponent in TSM. #GENGWIN I guess

#166

blicey

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bruh wdym we got the easiest opponent GENG ON TOP

#159

jjj1

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TSM vs GENG for the millionth time

#160

TSMice

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lets gooo tsm

#161

M4trix

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pls pick Ascent
I wanna see LEVI+ASCENT+ODIN

#162

M4trix

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no Ascent 😥

#163

pewpew

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Goddamn Brimstone, gg go next. We can still win Split and IceBox.

#165

pewpew

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It's incredible how careless TSM is during pistols rounds.

#167

thebrownlegend

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always careless during start of games

#168

Rizvi

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17th round was a seriously game changing throw for TSM :(

#169

thebrownlegend

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TSM feels so throwy / wack / not confident

#177

stevemclaren

-1

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or just bad?

#170

thebrownlegend

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yup there it is!

#171

M4trix

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natch title: ECOeD

#172

pewpew

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3 ecos by GenG and 4 pistol rounds. Same old TSM.

#174

Mbappe

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Hazed lives in the viper pit

#175

Tundai

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Pog!

#176

Elol

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KEKW

#180

Tsrjas

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SADGE, i really thought they had a chance in the upper bracket.

#181

thebrownlegend

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GG pistol lost. Changing flair to Acend again

#183

EsportUpdate

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TSM really slept on picking up so much talent and picked up some questionable players.

#184

thebrownlegend

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Thwifo D:

#187

EsportUpdate

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Andersin, Aleksandr as well.

#185

raka_gg

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looks like easy 13-11 for TSM

#186

connorwalsh

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Man.... 2 pistols ( and ofc 2 second rounds) + 1 bonus + 3 ecos lost on Bind. I can't believe they give free 8 rounds. I used to be fan but I hope they lose, that's pure embarrassment. Throw Solo Mid. Don't @ me r4t kids

#188

thebrownlegend

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knock on wood, TSM win

#189

EsportUpdate

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Not even sure what leviathan role is on the team. Seems to always be last alive.

#190

FireII

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hiko role

#191

Stratum7

-1

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TSM SO BAD LOL

#227

Zoxlr

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who bad LOL

#192

EsportUpdate

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This team play from TSM is the same from tsm 9 months ago. Wardell and subroza get early kills or rounds over.

#193

Sprouts

-1

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Is it just me or does Bang whiff way more then the average pro player
Everytime they cut to his pov, its just him missing shots

Edit: Nvm bang with the redbull clutch

#194

M4trix

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everyone in TSM is missing
Hazed one round took so long to kill the kay/o from behind that he got traded

#195

TinglyPiano

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Split OT is such clown fiesta. Most CT sided map ever

#196

vollizie

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PLEASE END AHHHHH

#197

Luffy_vlr

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Jesus this game is ugly as fuck

Team that wants to lose vs Team that don't want to win

#198

Torogoro

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Wardell take op in Defense, TSM won the round. Wardell take op in Attack, TSM lose the round.

#199

Tundai

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Bang uselss entire game until that clutch

#200

swaglord69

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this is one of the best series this vct

#201

za1x

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they still didint fix this 90 min match limit?

#202

Flamephoenix11

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what is this game man

#204

BluWasTaken

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Fuck it, put both teams in the lower bracket

#205

Vitiare

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HOLY SHIT JUST END ALREADY

#208

Tsrjas

-1

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It ended, rematch I guess.

#206

ValorantLowSkillGame

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Split is the worst map by far. Need more maps like Ascent, Breeze, and Haven that has some decent spacing and not utility spammage like split/bind

#207

Stratum7

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Its 2077. I m still watching the TSM x GenG Match. I had 4 children, 2 of them had a stroke while watching the match and died. Subroza retired and his son his playing for him now. Wardell has over 3000 kills and TSM has a map point but naturE clutches 1v4. My wife left me. I might pass out soon.

#209

HaSanity

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THIS IS GOLD

#237

vollizie

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Congratulations, you've started a copy pasta all over Twitter. How does that make you feel?

#300

PotatoCh1ps

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heyyyy, you made it to roza twitter, damnnnnnnnnnn

#210

cauhzi

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its torture someone win pls

#226

Miu

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Free entertainment I always enjoy long overtime’s

#211

Hudsen

✔

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Split is a great map :)

#305

meyournightmare

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common hudsen W

#212

Kiko

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#213

ValorantLowSkillGame

-2

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losing to tsm bots hahahahhahahahah

#225

Zoxlr

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cry

#214

cauhzi

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#217

Rizvi

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Its 3am here and this comment just cracked me up LMAOOOOO

#301

DeathStroKE

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lmao

#215

Tsrjas

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Gg?

#216

C9fansarecucks

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That was a huge lmaoathan

#219

isashoow

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longest map ever, let's go #TSMWIN

#220

caoguo_jiu

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ez win for TSM xd

#221

CAL

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wait GenG Nature is supposed to have 49 kills

#222

Vitiare

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FUCKING FINALLY

#223

connorwalsh

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Mods, update the Split statistics after the reset. Wardell killed more than 41 and NaturE more than 45

#228

Pemetro

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I noticed that too

#291

Pemetro

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He broke the last record and got 49 Kills

#224

STRAWHAT

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CRAZY GAME 2

#229

redlight

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@enigma nature got 49 kills not 45

#230

cyclone221

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Its also been longer than 1 hr 29 mins im p sure.

#232

M4trix

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Imagine winning that OT just to lose Icebox
ps: I hope they win
#TSMWIN

#233

PrTsty

-3

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Lets go 48 kills didnt get beaten

#234

M4trix

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who has the record?

#235

Stratum7

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It did. Nature got 49 but vlr gg isnt updated

#236

SharubuNguvu

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it did get beaten, the server crashed so it only has the kills until 20-20. Nature dropped 49 in this map

#238

Cheasle2

-1

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Do it for Ploo

#240

wanted

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she didn't tweet anything??

#247

Cheasle2

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do it for her anyway

#239

vollizie

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TSM really griefing by not picking Sova on Icebox.

#241

Mbappe

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Hazed the scariest player on TSM rn, can win rounds by himself and turn the momentum every time

#242

taxxje

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Been saying this for a while. He’s the only one of the core that has actually looked like they’ve improved. People are actually saying he should be dropped lmao.

#243

hiyo

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because people only look at scoreboards

#244

Mbappe

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just did it again, with clutch on nature

#245

ValorantLowSkillGame

-3

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GenG struggling to close out rounds vs BOT Bang, Hazed, and LeviathanGG along with subroza a braindead aimer with 0 IQ

#288

changevaluable2143123

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bro its just a game its not that serious... lol

#246

Sogou

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oh no Gen G not again

#248

pewpew

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Levi is only good in Ascent, kinda pepega on all the other maps.

#249

M4trix

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you mean on the sova

#250

ValorantLowSkillGame

-2

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GenG is so bad hahahahaha disband ASAP and MkaeL being paid to play pro valorant must be the biggest meme of the year

#251

Dieguzz00

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10-3 and lost,7-0 and lost😂😂😂GEN.G better find an explanation for this fantastic matchfix🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

#252

M4trix

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Oh my God!! Okay, it’s happening. Everyone stay calm! STAY F***ING CALM

#253

Mbappe

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This is the huynh vs tsm for mckael, how you dying so quick, so often with sova

#254

Neon74

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what
7-0 --> 10-13
thank you for saving my pick'ems TSM but wtf GenG are you autistic?

#255

WorthyRogue

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KEKW GGBET PEOPLE SUPPORTING GENG 😆

#257

M4trix

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HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

#258

pewpew

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LET'S GOOOOOO! TSM TAKES IT ONE STEP AT A TIME!
LET'S GOOOOOO! TSM TAKES IT ONE STEP AT A TIME!
LET'S GOOOOOO! TSM TAKES IT ONE STEP AT A TIME!
LET'S GOOOOOO! TSM TAKES IT ONE STEP AT A TIME!
LET'S GOOOOOO! TSM TAKES IT ONE STEP AT A TIME!

#260

Neonsharoo123

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HAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAA

#261

Vitiare

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TSM FUCKING BETTER 3-9 and 4-8 WE'RE GOING TO BERLIN

#262

WorthyRogue

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KEKW GGBET PEOPLE SUPPORTING GENg 😆

#263

gautam2909

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Hello everyone.. TSM is coming back...!!

#264

ToastByToast

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GG. what a fucking comeback, holy shit

#265

M4trix

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Hats off To TSM man
proud of the bois

#267

Dieguzz00

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I only hope Gen.G gets fined for this shitshow,how is possible in competitive doing shit like this and not being punished ahahahah

#270

NightMonkey

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the bois don't know how to quite lets freaking goooooooooooo

#272

Dieguzz00

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Spero in qualche malattia rara su Gen.G,qualcosa di incurabile che non li lasci più vivere normalmente🙏

#273

wanted

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big copium

#279

FilthyAnimal

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dw they still prob gnna qual

#274

FilthyAnimal

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20-2 first k/d

#275

1234567890

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20-2 fk/fd sheeesh

#276

pewpew

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Wardell First Kills 20 to First Deaths 2...This man is cracked.

#278

Dieguzz00

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TEN MATCHPOINTS,7-0 and 9-4 in the decider,still lost😂😂😂Gen.G dovete morire di qualcosa di grave

#283

Dieguzz00

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O magari bruciate vivi,merde umane dovete andare a lavorare figli di troia

#285

pewpew

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It's incredible to think that GenG was 1 kill away from winning lol. So close yet so far.

#287

sampenn1

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to think that mkael not whiffing ONCE couldve won them the game, but nope too much to expect from him

#286

Yagami

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Everyone knew it well, this was going to happen. This is the new TSM.

#289

D2ip

-2

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Levithan was bottom fragging in all 3 maps any thoughts ?

#290

ILL

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Take a look at his assists maybe? Mans a perfect support player

#297

WitLitning

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he also got six first kills which happened to he more than ANYBODY on geng lol

#299

ranker11

-1

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watch the game and not scoreboard smh

#294

mAko

-3

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Tbh if Levi gonna be meh, I could see TSM picking Sinatra

#295

WitLitning

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Final stats on Split, per the VOD. The website was not updated (EDIT: at the time, but now it is thanks)
https://gyazo.com/e566610413efbc51163ad76e96068b23

#296

pluggg

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so NaturE holds the most kills now?

#298

Reta_lol

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GG Gen G. Not even close ****

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