Gen.G team logo
final
1 : 2
vs.
Bo3
TSM team logo
GEN ban Ascent; TSM ban Breeze; GEN pick Bind; TSM pick Split; GEN pick Icebox
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Streams
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Nerd Street
Maps/Stats
All Maps
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2 Split
3 Icebox
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6 / 7
Bind PICK
46:24
TSM
6 / 4
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R2.0 ACS K D A +/– KAST ADR HS% FK FD +/–
omen
1.58 0.80 2.44 302 181 435 26 7 19 / 14 9 5 / 8 4 4 +12 -2 +14 78% 58% 100% 194 112 282 39% 22% 53% 2 2 0 2 2 0 0 0 0
viper
1.24 1.10 1.39 191 157 228 16 6 10 / 14 8 6 / 5 4 1 +2 -2 +4 70% 67% 73% 110 94 128 27% 24% 30% 1 1 0 2 1 1 -1 0 -1
raze
1.11 0.76 1.48 233 181 291 19 8 11 / 16 9 7 / 5 4 1 +3 -1 +4 78% 75% 82% 141 123 161 13% 17% 10% 1 1 0 1 0 1 0 +1 -1
sova
0.72 0.91 0.50 136 164 106 11 8 3 / 16 8 8 / 8 3 5 -5 0 -5 74% 75% 73% 85 88 81 26% 24% 27% 3 1 2 3 2 1 0 -1 +1
skye
0.64 0.89 0.38 157 177 137 13 8 5 / 17 7 10 / 5 2 3 -4 +1 -5 52% 58% 45% 95 120 68 20% 23% 16% 3 1 2 5 1 4 -2 0 -2
R2.0 ACS K D A +/– KAST ADR HS% FK FD +/–
viper
1.31 0.96 1.64 284 249 317 22 9 13 / 16 11 5 / 3 2 1 +6 -2 +8 70% 55% 83% 186 170 201 27% 27% 27% 5 2 3 0 0 0 +5 +2 +3
raze
1.00 1.08 0.93 226 267 190 19 11 8 / 16 9 7 / 2 1 1 +3 +2 +1 70% 82% 58% 128 117 138 24% 33% 18% 1 1 0 3 1 2 -2 0 -2
brimstone
0.77 0.91 0.64 194 244 149 14 8 6 / 18 11 7 / 4 3 1 -4 -3 -1 70% 82% 58% 138 156 121 43% 33% 62% 2 2 0 4 2 2 -2 0 -2
jett
0.73 0.19 1.23 186 104 262 13 3 10 / 18 10 8 / 3 0 3 -5 -7 +2 65% 55% 75% 124 73 171 27% 27% 27% 4 2 2 1 0 1 +3 +2 +1
sova
0.61 0.43 0.77 117 115 120 8 4 4 / 17 10 7 / 7 4 3 -9 -6 -3 57% 55% 58% 87 81 92 9% 17% 4% 1 0 1 2 1 1 -1 -1 0
All
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Defend
R2.0 ACS K D A +/– KAST ADR HS% FK FD +/–
viper kayo sage
1.16 1.50 1.33 202 193 238 74 32 42 / 55 31 24 / 25 11 14 +19 +1 +18 73% 70% 76% 135 129 141 28% 26% 29% 4 3 1 5 3 2 -1 0 -1
omen
1.21 1.26 1.23 265 248 269 82 39 43 / 61 33 28 / 21 9 12 +21 +6 +15 77% 73% 81% 164 159 168 30% 28% 32% 7 5 2 8 3 5 -1 +2 -3
skye viper
0.95 0.80 0.88 177 182 181 53 28 25 / 60 30 30 / 28 14 14 -7 -2 -5 70% 68% 71% 113 120 106 13% 14% 12% 5 2 3 10 2 8 -5 0 -5
raze
0.44 1.31 0.86 204 128 277 56 17 39 / 66 38 28 / 23 11 12 -10 -21 +11 71% 57% 86% 128 91 167 14% 11% 16% 8 4 4 17 12 5 -9 -8 -1
sova cypher
0.50 0.90 0.70 130 110 161 38 16 22 / 63 36 27 / 24 9 15 -25 -20 -5 69% 64% 74% 88 72 105 18% 17% 18% 9 2 7 13 8 5 -4 -6 +2
R2.0 ACS K D A +/– KAST ADR HS% FK FD +/–
jett
0.92 1.61 1.27 241 201 294 76 30 46 / 54 31 23 / 7 1 6 +22 -1 +23 78% 71% 84% 153 124 181 21% 19% 24% 20 6 14 2 0 2 +18 +6 +12
viper cypher killjoy
0.81 1.25 1.04 226 201 232 62 27 35 / 56 34 22 / 13 5 8 +6 -7 +13 73% 64% 82% 142 133 152 26% 23% 28% 12 6 6 9 5 4 +3 +1 +2
raze astra sage
0.95 0.88 0.92 199 205 201 60 31 29 / 61 32 29 / 23 12 11 -1 -1 0 77% 83% 70% 123 114 132 22% 22% 21% 5 3 2 4 1 3 +1 +2 -1
brimstone skye
0.73 1.06 0.90 236 207 256 67 27 40 / 70 39 31 / 15 10 5 -3 -12 +9 74% 74% 75% 151 130 170 30% 28% 32% 9 6 3 8 5 3 +1 +1 0
sova viper
0.62 0.81 0.72 136 172 109 39 24 15 / 62 38 24 / 33 14 19 -23 -14 -9 69% 67% 70% 94 106 81 14% 15% 12% 7 4 3 10 6 4 -3 -2 -1
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Split PICK
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R2.0 ACS K D A +/– KAST ADR HS% FK FD +/–
kayo
1.66 1.25 2.07 268 240 296 45 19 26 / 25 17 8 / 19 6 13 +20 +2 +18 83% 70% 95% 169 161 177 29% 29% 28% 2 1 1 2 1 1 0 0 0
omen
1.07 1.05 1.09 227 214 240 34 15 19 / 29 17 12 / 11 4 7 +5 -2 +7 83% 75% 90% 148 140 157 27% 32% 24% 3 2 1 2 0 2 +1 +2 -1
viper
0.98 0.86 1.11 201 174 228 26 11 15 / 28 17 11 / 17 8 9 -2 -6 +4 75% 60% 90% 132 119 145 11% 13% 9% 1 0 1 2 0 2 -1 0 -1
cypher
0.76 0.21 1.31 151 83 220 19 4 15 / 28 19 9 / 12 3 9 -9 -15 +6 75% 60% 90% 101 64 138 13% 10% 15% 5 0 5 6 4 2 -1 -4 +3
raze
0.75 0.12 1.37 186 111 261 23 5 18 / 31 21 10 / 12 5 7 -8 -16 +8 68% 45% 90% 127 84 170 15% 10% 18% 5 2 3 12 10 2 -7 -8 +1
R2.0 ACS K D A +/– KAST ADR HS% FK FD +/–
jett
1.47 1.02 1.91 277 234 322 41 16 25 / 24 17 7 / 1 0 1 +17 -1 +18 78% 70% 85% 170 154 185 17% 19% 15% 8 2 6 1 0 1 +7 +2 +5
astra
0.89 0.58 1.21 219 169 270 28 10 18 / 32 19 13 / 14 6 8 -4 -9 +5 83% 75% 90% 133 108 159 20% 15% 24% 4 2 2 1 0 1 +3 +2 +1
viper
0.83 0.66 0.99 153 183 125 20 12 8 / 29 19 10 / 16 2 14 -9 -7 -2 75% 65% 85% 106 116 96 16% 19% 12% 6 4 2 6 5 1 0 -1 +1
cypher
0.82 0.42 1.21 176 147 207 22 8 14 / 29 19 10 / 10 3 7 -7 -11 +4 73% 50% 95% 124 111 137 18% 18% 19% 3 1 2 6 4 2 -3 -3 0
skye
0.81 0.28 1.34 212 111 314 30 7 23 / 33 19 14 / 4 1 3 -3 -12 +9 73% 60% 85% 139 71 208 25% 29% 24% 3 0 3 2 2 0 +1 -2 +3
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Icebox PICK
50:45
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R2.0 ACS K D A +/– KAST ADR HS% FK FD +/–
omen
1.18 1.90 0.38 267 371 154 22 17 5 / 18 7 11 / 2 1 1 +4 +10 -6 65% 83% 45% 160 238 75 26% 29% 18% 2 1 1 4 1 3 -2 0 -2
viper
0.93 1.17 0.67 172 202 140 14 9 5 / 15 6 9 / 6 4 2 -1 +3 -4 78% 92% 64% 98 121 74 12% 8% 23% 1 1 0 3 1 2 -2 0 -2
sage
0.83 1.07 0.57 146 151 141 13 7 6 / 16 6 10 / 1 1 0 -3 +1 -4 61% 75% 45% 100 112 88 25% 21% 31% 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 0
raze
0.83 0.63 1.05 194 104 293 14 4 10 / 19 8 11 / 6 2 4 -5 -4 -1 70% 58% 82% 116 70 165 13% 5% 18% 2 1 1 4 2 2 -2 -1 -1
sova
0.57 0.59 0.55 103 101 107 8 4 4 / 19 9 10 / 4 3 1 -11 -5 -6 52% 58% 45% 69 69 68 20% 20% 20% 1 1 0 4 2 2 -3 -1 -2
R2.0 ACS K D A +/– KAST ADR HS% FK FD +/–
jett
1.48 1.47 1.49 261 241 280 22 11 11 / 12 4 8 / 3 1 2 +10 +7 +3 91% 91% 92% 153 122 183 23% 14% 33% 8 2 6 0 0 0 +8 +2 +6
skye
1.19 1.36 1.03 303 344 267 23 12 11 / 19 9 10 / 7 6 1 +4 +3 +1 83% 91% 75% 183 213 156 29% 25% 38% 4 4 0 2 1 1 +2 +3 -1
killjoy
1.14 1.37 0.93 217 249 188 18 10 8 / 11 4 7 / 0 0 0 +7 +6 +1 78% 100% 58% 131 136 126 35% 26% 47% 4 3 1 3 1 2 +1 +2 -1
sage
0.87 1.49 0.30 151 209 99 13 10 3 / 13 4 9 / 7 5 2 0 +6 -6 74% 100% 50% 101 122 81 23% 29% 17% 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
viper
0.63 0.72 0.54 137 207 73 11 8 3 / 16 9 7 / 10 8 2 -5 -1 -4 70% 82% 58% 79 114 47 13% 7% 30% 0 0 0 2 0 2 -2 0 -2
Head-to-head
Past Matches
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#1
Asphyxia
-15
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GEN.G 2-0

gMd brimstone lurk too strong.

EDIT: Guys remember that this GEN.G is with Nature now. No Huynh so this team plays very differently. Like they have much more flexible comps and honestly if they play their cards right. They could literally play any style they want. I wonder what they'll pull out but it could really be anything so all vods on this team are probably going to be useless and if the GEN.G coach helps the team enough. Then they can probably counter how TSM plays without TSM ever knowing how they play.

But this is just speculation. I think this'll still be a close game but probably GEN.G win.

Also I'm going to guess the pick and bans and who wins. But GEN.G is changing a ton same with TSM so this'll prob be all wrong.

REMEMBER THIS IS MEANT TO BE PEPEGA IF WRONG KEKW.

GEN.G win 2-1.

GEN.G ban Ascent. (They've started banning it near the end of challengers 2 and honestly I think their Ascent also looked pretty eh compared to their other maps)
TSM ban Breeze. (Well I would think they do this unless they start learning the map in which case this'll have the preds change a ton.)

GEN.G pick Bind. GEN.G win 13-9. TSM pick defense. (This sounds like a completely dumb idea but honestly they did try to have an interesting comp on this map so I think they might try to develop it. And I liked how they played it.)

TSM pick Haven. TSM win 13-11. GEN.G pick defense. (TSM starts being pepega and let GEN.G go from 5-11 when TSM are at 12.)

GEN.G pick Split or Icebox. Whichever they start practicing. I think TSM would pick attack for Icebox and defense for Split like any normal team. If Split. I think GEN.G take this in over time 15-13. If on Icebox I think it's a 13-8. (GEN.G might pick Split or Icebox instead first but who knows. I feel like GEN.G has so much time to practice and scrim and if the team just works on some maps to make them very complete. TSM probably lose.)

#63
SENBobstar
-124
Frags
+

GenG shit on TSM, always did, always will.

EDIT: Gonna stick with my answer, y'all be embarrassed in a few hours

EDIT: What I mean is TSM choke LMAO, downvote me all u want TSM fans...

EDIT: TSM actually won LMAO, 23-21 isn't something to brag about tho, gonna get shit on later in the brackets, shit team, shit org, shit placements

#64
Aris
27
Frags
+

always did huh look at the HEAD-TO-HEAD thing tsm beat them 2 times in in a row

#65
Crayzid
13
Frags
+

TSM - 8
Gen.G - 3

#71
Zoxlr
4
Frags
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Fr 8-4 record 1 being bo1 “gen g always shit on tsm” dumbass sen fans 😂

#70
Zoxlr
6
Frags
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Literally other way around tsm beat gen 8 times gen g beat tsm 4 times and 2 of those are bo1 delusional sen fans 💀

#142
Andrew412
2
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stop going so hard the sen fans remember they only know how to say sen best and tenz best they dont any other words.

#76
CrimsonPride
3
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are you fked in the head? lmfao

#100
Zoxlr
0
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its a sen fan all of them are fucked in head

#107
karmakek
5
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you are not the clown you are the whole circus

#141
Retaliative
4
Frags
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Why is it always has to be a sentinel fan....lmfao

#292
dreski
-1
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finally a 100t fan who has respect

#280
karmakek
1
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this aged well lmao retard

#282
Excaliburn
3
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Aged very well

#284
Pemetro
0
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So you were saying...?

#293
mAko
0
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embarrassing to say the least

#304
Zoxlr
0
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edit: ima delusional sen fan whos always wrong

#81
wanted
0
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flair?

#124
mAko
5
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The same can be said bout tsm tho. This is not the tsm that they faced, better players and a new coach. So everything is up in the air for me

#127
Asphyxia
-1
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Yea. But they have vods of TSM against ABX and DZ. Honestly both not super bad teams. And since TSM were pushed to 3rd map both times. TSM was most definitely challenged. And I find it hard to believe that TSM can do so much in like 6 days or so. Maybe they can. But I think GEN.G have a big advantage here even if it's very up in the air.

#130
BenjiZ___
0
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and u consider that u are a tsm fan? I'm saying this because of ur flag lmao

#132
Asphyxia
0
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No lmao. I lost the bet that they'd lose to ABX. I didn't bet money bc I'm broke af. I just bet my flair on it. And it's a big sadge. :(

#153
Sheharwa
1
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GL Both teams But Gen.G really have the more dominant playstyle

#164
Asphyxia
0
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OOO SPLIT. Interesting.

#173
Asphyxia
0
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1 round off from perfect pred on the first map. I'm still expecting 13-11 from TSM though. Let's see what happens.

#256
Neonsharoo123
0
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GAHAHAHAHHAHHAHA

#281
Super0609
0
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yessir

#259
Asphyxia
0
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Yikes Mkael

#268
Gumm0o1
1
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Far L 🤡

#277
Asphyxia
-1
Frags
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Hey at least Gen.G doesn't lose pistol rounds KEKW. I mean I'll acknowledge that TSM are tier 1 now(Barely, I could still consider them Tier 1.5 because they have only taken down 3 teams so far.). But Yikes. Mkael. I mean. Like I knew this guy was bad. But how. Do. U. Throw. That. Hard.

#269
Hinata_Shoyo
0
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paragraph wasted KEKW

#271
yungjeezy
2
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ratio

#303
tsmftxtoberlin
0
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bonak

#2
BuffX4
3
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So would this match be Gen.G vs TSM?

#3
Asphyxia
-6
Frags
+

I don't believe so.

#4
BuffX4
2
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I'm not 100% sure how this works, but unless BBG 2-1 T1, TSM would be the only team to lose two maps in the open meaning they would be the 8 seed, right?

#5
Asphyxia
-2
Frags
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I'm pretty sure the brackets are just like different seeds. And it's not based off of win loss on maps. So I don't believe that TSM are playing here but who knows.

#8
No_Comments
4
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Seed is decided by Match win, Map win, Round win and pre tournament seeding in decreasing order of priority. Hence everyone qualifying will have 5-0 in matches, as per map win, TSM will be seeded last. So that makes pretty much plausible for TSM vs GenG.

#105
Asphyxia
-1
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Bro why are people downvoting me. I genuinely thought that it wasn't. It wasn't even like troll or bait Sadge.

#6
FilthyAnimal
0
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prob GenG win

#89
Mahj0ngMaster
1
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I kinda wanna see tsm win here for some reason. Don’t know why

#104
phydeva
2
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Bruh u always want the underdog to win its common human emotion

#125
Murphy
1
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both teams are underdogs

#7
blicey
-8
Frags
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GenG 10-0

#46
nOonEdefeaT
5
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Love to see that GenG gonna win more maps than there is in the game

#72
blicey
8
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nah im from the future we got Rust, Mirror, Dome, and Board as the last 4 maps

#110
Mahj0ngMaster
2
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Those maps low key sound legit lmao

#115
Asphyxia
0
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Yo are you mixing up Board and Checkers. I thought Board was released as the 11th map. I think they look quite similar but it's sad to see them being mixed up. Checkers was such a good map. Unlucky really. NaVi really went on a roll on that map. And Astralis flopped when that map was brought into rotation.

#117
blicey
0
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wait ur totally right it completely slipped my mind, sorry Australis is one of my favorite teams so it had made me really sad when they didnt run the meta of 5 duelists jn Checkers and lost against MIBR

#121
Asphyxia
0
Frags
+

Ah sorry I think I was mixing up the top region aka OCE with an inferior region aka EU. I meant to say Australs. I was just watching so many Astralis vods recently that I accidentally wrote them in. Astralis somehow fluked their way Masters Tokyo though. Unlucky really that they lost to MiBR which were filled with washed boomers aka ex-Gamelanders squad. They looked so brainless but I guess the meta was too strong. Astralis just threw away the game with trying to use whatever the new agent was. Apparently it was based off of a washed team called Sentinels so they tried to make it very reactionary. But it just ended up being shit.

On another note. NaVi looked insane bro. How did they rush B 15 rounds in a row and beat fucking Australs. No way they did that. Superior tactics from the god and IGL simple I guess.

#122
blicey
0
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+

IDK all ik is that B on checkers needs to be fixed, especially when the 2nd newest agent Gigabyte rushes it, his laser beams make it impossible to use the Famas which is debatably the best gun in the game right now

#129
Asphyxia
0
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Bro what are you talking about. Famas is only A tier. So overrated. We know that Vandale is S tier. All the pro's such as Gtn and Potter are calling it really bad in it's current state. But I think it is really strong with it's 10 tap potential. And yes Gigabyte is too op on that map. I have no idea why. It encourages very strategic strats such as rush b cyka blyad or rush a cyka blyad but rush a cyka blyad is very weak at the moment and Astralis were trying to use it on that strat. And they had a very good defense though. Literally up 23-0. How did they throw this bro. Astralis should just go back to LoL.

#133
DogeForPres
1
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I don't want to live in a world where potter is a top pro

#134
Asphyxia
0
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Wdym. Best player NA. Idk how such a good player from NA even exists.

#9
ritdro2211
4
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tsm vs geng gonna be a very nice and fiesty game
could go either way

#10
WitLitning
-2
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tsm dunks on gen.g if they end up playing. i see a lot of comments for tsm vs V1, though, on the other page.

#11
mattgg2015
0
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GenG 2-1

#12
Aris
0
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TSM 2-0 GENG

#13
gweees
1
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Gen.G 2-1

#14
Netero
6
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tsm with vods now??? 2-1 GenG

#99
sampenn1
0
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lol faxx mce got the fatty setups

#15
dignityx3
-2
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TSM 2-0 GENG

#203
Asphyxia
-2
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clown

#302
NaBetter
0
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?

#16
cloud9bluefan
0
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Geng Easy

#17
gradualhorizon
6
Frags
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Excited for this match up, I can see either GenG winning 2-1 or TSM winning 2-0 but with close matches once again to stress out all their fans. Either way, good luck to both.

#30
Maniax19
-10
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+

this is actually the first time i see a sen fan not saying dumb shit lol

#44
Ahmed_Fadel
-5
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Wtf how u r a sen fan????

#18
Crayzid
9
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im sick and tired of TSM vs Gen.G this is scripted for sure.
anyway 2-1 could go either way, hoping TSM wins tho

#20
mAko
2
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At this point its for views

#266
Crayzid
0
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+

ayyyy

#19
mAko
1
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AGAINNN?

#21
Aris
2
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ya man we play geng evrey time man

#22
Zoxlr
1
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+

ez tsm win

#23
teilwal
0
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+

JUICY game, I think geng take this but could be close

#24
dogegamer
-1
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GENG 2-0 TSM can take icebox maybe

#88
WitLitning
1
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just like we took icebox against abx…

#25
Zaynio
1
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TSM 2-0. I know scrims don't mean shit but it was a big slap each scrim we saw basically.

#26
cyclone221
1
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Will be a great matchup could go either way gonna definitely go to 3 maps.

#27
plas
-1
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GENG 2-0

#28
unchained66x
0
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TSM is literally GenG's father, they never win, TSM 2-0

#29
Yagami
1
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So it's going to be : Bind, Haven and Icebox. Unless TSM bans Bind instead of Breeze. And Gen.G is going to ban Ascent for sure.

#40
Bricckk
0
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My guess is the same TSM have been banning Breeze and Geng can play it so it will probably be Bind,Haven,Icebox

#31
yunoo
1
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+

why do TSM and GenG always end up against eachother lol

#32
teezmageez
-5
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TSM 2-0 GEN.G NO CYAP

#47
pewpew
0
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Just from that "NO CYAP" and I know you are from Subroza stream lmao.

#103
Abdul
0
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TOO true the NO CYAP but people say no cap

#33
drabr420
3
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if they play breeze 😬 geng free map

#34
blicey
-1
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GenG 2-1, 2-0 if TSM play bad

#35
Aris
0
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2-0 for TSM

#36
redlotus
1
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TSM was dogging gen.g in scrims which means im predicting a gen.g 2-1 win

#37
Bricckk
0
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where did you get this from?

#38
redlotus
0
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there was a couple times the scrim result was posted between iceland and now and tsm was always winning

#39
blicey
1
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c9 was dominating xset in scrims and they still got slurped dry

#41
redlotus
0
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thats why I said gen g wins 2-1 lmao

#42
majincringe
0
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i wanna have hope in tsm that they can win but their performance against some lesser teams wasnt very convincing

#91
Yagami
1
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Idc whatever but I just want TSM to get that Top 4 spot. Let's see

#43
gangstacool
0
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I don't want Gen G to win, but lets be real, they probably will.

#45
TSMFTXFAN123
1
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2-1 TSMWIN

#48
pewpew
1
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Has TSM ever gotten an easy bracket lol. Although it doesn't matter cuz they need to beat 2 teams to qualify.

#49
WitLitning
0
Frags
+

we're going to SHIT on Gen.G

#50
pewpew
1
Frags
+

hopefully cuz they strong strong without Huynh

#52
camcars
0
Frags
+

but we're also reformed with levi and bang

#53
pewpew
0
Frags
+

they have had more time to practice i guess. And also our coach Chet seems so lost with counter strats. Felt like TSM didn't prepare for DZ strats at all. DZ was using the same shit from previous matches and still clapped TSM...

#61
WitLitning
0
Frags
+

tsm is strong strong without drone and cutler ;)

#87
connorwalsh
1
Frags
+

They're not so strong. I don't see analysts job in TSM. Not micros/macros against DZ. I hope analysts work their 4$S off

#51
Fon
1
Frags
+

TSM 2-1
Prayge

#155
Tsrjas
0
Frags
+

Finally a realistic fellow TSM fan.

#54
pewpew
0
Frags
+

...

#55
Derkshu
1
Frags
+

GenG will probably win but I want TSM to win

#56
vern
-1
Frags
+

Perfect track record vs GEN.G for TSM which can only mean 1 thing... 2-1 GEN.G

#62
pewpew
0
Frags
+

I remember TSM losing 2-1 to GenG is Masters 1 challengers 2 tho? I might be wrong but they definitely lost to them once in a clutch match.

#57
Sentin_Val
0
Frags
+

It's been awhile that these two teams fought.

#58
gl1tch
0
Frags
+

Here we are
Once again

#59
Hunt
3
Frags
+

El classico
TSM new roster new look, hoping for a clean 2-0 W
Probably a close 2-1

#60
Fire737
-1
Frags
+

Geng 2-0 because geng played well against sentinels

#66
alum
7
Frags
+

wardell gapped huynh so hard last time he had to leave, lets see wardell kick another player off gen g

#67
BerZergg
1
Frags
+

feels like geng should win this but then again tsm always seems to find a way to beat geng somehow...Man am I confused af...

#68
AllAimNoBrain
1
Frags
+

My pick’em https://www.vlr.gg/pickem/285cac65
I just used my intuition

#69
Zaynio
0
Frags
+

Fair, but you don't think T1 will make it that far?

#78
whatspoppin
0
Frags
+

big hopes for tsm against t1 teams kekw

#95
vern
0
Frags
+

really think TSM takes it all? Seen a lot of non-Tsm fans say that

#73
adityanambiar08
1
Frags
+

Tsm 2-1 gng

#74
cnfpsworstfps
1
Frags
+

es for gen.g 2-0

#75
sheeesh_gamer
0
Frags
+

2-0 tsm

#77
Fire737
-3
Frags
+

In your dream

#79
Rizvi
5
Frags
+

TSM 17 - 7 GEN G
If we count the maps they have played against each other

It would be 19 - 7 in 3 days. No Cap!

#80
NightMonkey
0
Frags
+

tooo esy for the bois

#82
wanted
0
Frags
+

hoping geng wins this

#83
Wisdom31
1
Frags
+

#TSMWIN

#84
rxylus
0
Frags
+

2-1 TSM roza diff

#85
mAko
2
Frags
+

The last time they played each other, wardell ended someone's career

#86
Aris
4
Frags
+

TSM 2-0 Wardel ending someone's career again

#90
LNG
0
Frags
+

Gen G 2-1 close game all maps

#92
Yagami
0
Frags
+

Comparing recent games I think among both, TSM is strong on Ascent, Haven, Icebox and Gen.G is on Bind and Breeze and Split is rng. Let's see what is the map selection.

#93
swaglord69
9
Frags
+

tbh i think tsm can win this challengers

#97
thebrownlegend
0
Frags
+

i do too. they can def beat v1

#94
leleuu
0
Frags
+

Nice run tsm

#98
TSMAL1X
1
Frags
+

I believe in my team, at least i hope they not gonna be 13-0 both maps
Even against all the odds TSM 2-1 GenG

#101
drabr420
1
Frags
+

2-1 geng 13-11 9-13 15-13 maps: bind haven and spilt

#116
Asphyxia
0
Frags
+

Yo. How did we have the same exact preds almost. I went to check the comment section below like right now and I edited my comment like 7 hours ago. kekwut.

#102
alum
1
Frags
+

Only competition TSM has is V1 and possibly luminosity(since they always play like shit against them) best of luck though

#111
Zaynio
1
Frags
+

haven't TSM only played LG like once?

#106
kurama3x
1
Frags
+

TSM 2-1 or 2-0

#108
PotatoKing__
2
Frags
+

they were winning 9-1 vs geng in scrims a few weeks ago

#109
sheesh_gamer
1
Frags
+

This is light work for TSM...

#112
WitLitning
2
Frags
+

I've predicted losses for my own damn team from 303 Esports and Squirtle Squad all the way up to DarkZero. They keep winning instead, and i'm not tryna jinx anything, so: No way tsm can beat gen.g! No shot they can beat a team that they routinely shit on with even their old roster.

#114
Crayzid
1
Frags
+

yeah bro theyre gonna get destroyed... Gmd too stronk

#113
sheeesh_gamer
0
Frags
+

Very easy for tsm imo.

#118
item
2
Frags
+

TSM win this matchup even though I think Gen.G look more solid atm, Gen.G always seem to struggle against TSM.

#119
TSM_FOREVER
-1
Frags
+

TSM on top

#120
TSM_FOREVER
-2
Frags
+

TSM

#123
Xupra
1
Frags
+

Another classic match up!

#126
M4trix
2
Frags
+

Gonna be a close series I expect some OTs and some 13-11 ish
# #

#128
drabr420
1
Frags
+

el clasico

#131
BenjiZ___
0
Frags
+

TSM 2-1 GENG

#139
Aris
2
Frags
+

TSM 2-1 or 2-0 ez for WARDELL

#140
Kiko
-4
Frags
+

GENG 2-1 TSM
13 - 7 GenG map 1
13 - 11 TSM map 2
13 - 10 GenG map 3

#144
Zaynio
0
Frags
+

you are the first person with a faze flair that I've seen in a while....

#147
Kiko
3
Frags
+

only faze fan world sadge

#149
Zaynio
0
Frags
+

unlucky really

#143
sheesh_gamer
1
Frags
+

LET'S GO TSM

#145
OGBabyboy
-4
Frags
+

Easy for Gen.G NO KYAAAAAP

#146
Aris
2
Frags
+

2-0 for TSM EZ CLAP

#148
Goldenoodles31
0
Frags
+

can someone tell me who is tsm igl
idk if it's still hazed or not

#150
rivr
1
Frags
+

it's still hazed

#151
Zaynio
1
Frags
+

Its hazed but from Wardells coms video, it seemed like Wardell was calling some shots.

#152
WitLitning
2
Frags
+

hazed is def the official IGL, but everyone is calling shots from what i saw. they all have good ideas (so far) and work well together. roza and levi are unofficial “secondary IGLs” since they play info agents in sova and skye.

#154
Skyyy21
0
Frags
+

Pagman

#156
Kepin
0
Frags
+

Leviathan diff.

TSM Win 2-1

#157
Qurfet
0
Frags
+

#TSMWIN

#158
Mbappe
0
Frags
+

Unlucky seedings, first Sentinels and now probably the best possible opponent in TSM. #GENGWIN I guess

#166
blicey
0
Frags
+

bruh wdym we got the easiest opponent GENG ON TOP

#159
jjj1
0
Frags
+

TSM vs GENG for the millionth time

#160
TSMice
0
Frags
+

lets gooo tsm

#161
M4trix
0
Frags
+

pls pick Ascent
I wanna see LEVI+ASCENT+ODIN

#162
M4trix
0
Frags
+

no Ascent 😥

#163
pewpew
0
Frags
+

Goddamn Brimstone, gg go next. We can still win Split and IceBox.

#165
pewpew
0
Frags
+

It's incredible how careless TSM is during pistols rounds.

#167
thebrownlegend
0
Frags
+

always careless during start of games

#168
Rizvi
0
Frags
+

17th round was a seriously game changing throw for TSM :(

#169
thebrownlegend
0
Frags
+

TSM feels so throwy / wack / not confident

#177
stevemclaren
-1
Frags
+

or just bad?

#170
thebrownlegend
1
Frags
+

yup there it is!

#171
M4trix
0
Frags
+

natch title: ECOeD

#172
pewpew
2
Frags
+

3 ecos by GenG and 4 pistol rounds. Same old TSM.

#174
Mbappe
0
Frags
+

Hazed lives in the viper pit

#175
Tundai
0
Frags
+

Pog!

#176
Elol
2
Frags
+

KEKW

#180
Tsrjas
1
Frags
+

SADGE, i really thought they had a chance in the upper bracket.

#181
thebrownlegend
0
Frags
+

GG pistol lost. Changing flair to Acend again

#183
EsportUpdate
0
Frags
+

TSM really slept on picking up so much talent and picked up some questionable players.

#184
thebrownlegend
0
Frags
+

Thwifo D:

#187
EsportUpdate
0
Frags
+

Andersin, Aleksandr as well.

#185
raka_gg
0
Frags
+

looks like easy 13-11 for TSM

#186
connorwalsh
2
Frags
+

Man.... 2 pistols ( and ofc 2 second rounds) + 1 bonus + 3 ecos lost on Bind. I can't believe they give free 8 rounds. I used to be fan but I hope they lose, that's pure embarrassment. Throw Solo Mid. Don't @ me r4t kids

#188
thebrownlegend
0
Frags
+

knock on wood, TSM win

#189
EsportUpdate
0
Frags
+

Not even sure what leviathan role is on the team. Seems to always be last alive.

#190
FireII
0
Frags
+

hiko role

#191
Stratum7
-1
Frags
+

TSM SO BAD LOL

#227
Zoxlr
0
Frags
+

who bad LOL

#192
EsportUpdate
0
Frags
+

This team play from TSM is the same from tsm 9 months ago. Wardell and subroza get early kills or rounds over.

#193
Sprouts
-1
Frags
+

Is it just me or does Bang whiff way more then the average pro player
Everytime they cut to his pov, its just him missing shots

Edit: Nvm bang with the redbull clutch

#194
M4trix
0
Frags
+

everyone in TSM is missing
Hazed one round took so long to kill the kay/o from behind that he got traded

#195
TinglyPiano
0
Frags
+

Split OT is such clown fiesta. Most CT sided map ever

#196
vollizie
0
Frags
+

PLEASE END AHHHHH

#197
Luffy_vlr
2
Frags
+

Jesus this game is ugly as fuck

Team that wants to lose vs Team that don't want to win

#198
Torogoro
0
Frags
+

Wardell take op in Defense, TSM won the round. Wardell take op in Attack, TSM lose the round.

#199
Tundai
1
Frags
+

Bang uselss entire game until that clutch

#200
swaglord69
1
Frags
+

this is one of the best series this vct

#201
za1x
1
Frags
+

they still didint fix this 90 min match limit?

#202
Flamephoenix11
0
Frags
+

what is this game man

#204
BluWasTaken
0
Frags
+

Fuck it, put both teams in the lower bracket

#205
Vitiare
1
Frags
+

HOLY SHIT JUST END ALREADY

#208
Tsrjas
-1
Frags
+

It ended, rematch I guess.

#206
ValorantLowSkillGame
1
Frags
+

Split is the worst map by far. Need more maps like Ascent, Breeze, and Haven that has some decent spacing and not utility spammage like split/bind

#207
Stratum7
22
Frags
+

Its 2077. I m still watching the TSM x GenG Match. I had 4 children, 2 of them had a stroke while watching the match and died. Subroza retired and his son his playing for him now. Wardell has over 3000 kills and TSM has a map point but naturE clutches 1v4. My wife left me. I might pass out soon.

#209
HaSanity
0
Frags
+

THIS IS GOLD

#237
vollizie
0
Frags
+

Congratulations, you've started a copy pasta all over Twitter. How does that make you feel?

#300
PotatoCh1ps
0
Frags
+

heyyyy, you made it to roza twitter, damnnnnnnnnnn

#210
cauhzi
1
Frags
+

its torture someone win pls

#226
Miu
0
Frags
+

Free entertainment I always enjoy long overtime’s

#211
Hudsen
0
Frags
+

Split is a great map :)

#305
meyournightmare
0
Frags
+

common hudsen W

#212
Kiko
2
Frags
+

Its 2077. I m still watching the TSM x GenG Match. I had 4 children, 2 of them had a stroke while watching the match and died. Subroza retired and his son his playing for him now. Wardell has over 3000 kills and TSM has a map point but naturE clutches 1v4. My wife left me. I might pass out soon..

#213
ValorantLowSkillGame
-2
Frags
+

losing to tsm bots hahahahhahahahah

#225
Zoxlr
0
Frags
+

cry

#214
cauhzi
9
Frags
+

Its 2077. I m still watching the TSM x GenG Match. I had 4 children, 2 of them had a stroke while watching the match and died. Subroza retired and his son his playing for him now. Wardell has over 3000 kills and TSM has a map point but naturE clutches 1v4. My wife left me. I might pass out soon

#217
Rizvi
0
Frags
+

Its 3am here and this comment just cracked me up LMAOOOOO

#301
DeathStroKE
0
Frags
+

lmao

#215
Tsrjas
0
Frags
+

Gg?

#216
C9fansarecucks
0
Frags
+

That was a huge lmaoathan

#219
isashoow
1
Frags
+

longest map ever, let's go #TSMWIN

#220
caoguo_jiu
2
Frags
+

ez win for TSM xd

#221
CAL
4
Frags
+

wait GenG Nature is supposed to have 49 kills

#222
Vitiare
1
Frags
+

FUCKING FINALLY

#223
connorwalsh
4
Frags
+

Mods, update the Split statistics after the reset. Wardell killed more than 41 and NaturE more than 45

#228
Pemetro
1
Frags
+

I noticed that too

#291
Pemetro
0
Frags
+

He broke the last record and got 49 Kills

#224
STRAWHAT
0
Frags
+

CRAZY GAME 2

#229
redlight
0
Frags
+

@enigma nature got 49 kills not 45

#230
cyclone221
0
Frags
+

Its also been longer than 1 hr 29 mins im p sure.

#232
M4trix
0
Frags
+

Imagine winning that OT just to lose Icebox
ps: I hope they win
#TSMWIN

#233
PrTsty
-3
Frags
+

Lets go 48 kills didnt get beaten

#234
M4trix
0
Frags
+

who has the record?

#235
Stratum7
2
Frags
+

It did. Nature got 49 but vlr gg isnt updated

#236
SharubuNguvu
1
Frags
+

it did get beaten, the server crashed so it only has the kills until 20-20. Nature dropped 49 in this map

#238
Cheasle2
-1
Frags
+

Do it for Ploo

#240
wanted
0
Frags
+

she didn't tweet anything??

#247
Cheasle2
0
Frags
+

do it for her anyway

#239
vollizie
1
Frags
+

TSM really griefing by not picking Sova on Icebox.

#241
Mbappe
1
Frags
+

Hazed the scariest player on TSM rn, can win rounds by himself and turn the momentum every time

#242
taxxje
0
Frags
+

Been saying this for a while. He’s the only one of the core that has actually looked like they’ve improved. People are actually saying he should be dropped lmao.

#243
hiyo
0
Frags
+

because people only look at scoreboards

#244
Mbappe
0
Frags
+

just did it again, with clutch on nature

#245
ValorantLowSkillGame
-3
Frags
+

GenG struggling to close out rounds vs BOT Bang, Hazed, and LeviathanGG along with subroza a braindead aimer with 0 IQ

#288
changevaluable2143123
0
Frags
+

bro its just a game its not that serious... lol

#246
Sogou
0
Frags
+

oh no Gen G not again

#248
pewpew
0
Frags
+

Levi is only good in Ascent, kinda pepega on all the other maps.

#249
M4trix
0
Frags
+

you mean on the sova

#250
ValorantLowSkillGame
-2
Frags
+

GenG is so bad hahahahaha disband ASAP and MkaeL being paid to play pro valorant must be the biggest meme of the year

#251
Dieguzz00
2
Frags
+

10-3 and lost,7-0 and lost😂😂😂GEN.G better find an explanation for this fantastic matchfix🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

#252
M4trix
0
Frags
+

Oh my God!! Okay, it’s happening. Everyone stay calm! STAY F***ING CALM

#253
Mbappe
1
Frags
+

This is the huynh vs tsm for mckael, how you dying so quick, so often with sova

#254
Neon74
0
Frags
+

what
7-0 --> 10-13
thank you for saving my pick'ems TSM but wtf GenG are you autistic?

#255
WorthyRogue
0
Frags
+

KEKW GGBET PEOPLE SUPPORTING GENG 😆

#257
M4trix
0
Frags
+

HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

#258
pewpew
0
Frags
+

LET'S GOOOOOO! TSM TAKES IT ONE STEP AT A TIME!
LET'S GOOOOOO! TSM TAKES IT ONE STEP AT A TIME!
LET'S GOOOOOO! TSM TAKES IT ONE STEP AT A TIME!
LET'S GOOOOOO! TSM TAKES IT ONE STEP AT A TIME!
LET'S GOOOOOO! TSM TAKES IT ONE STEP AT A TIME!

#260
Neonsharoo123
0
Frags
+

HAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAA

#261
Vitiare
0
Frags
+

TSM FUCKING BETTER 3-9 and 4-8 WE'RE GOING TO BERLIN

#262
WorthyRogue
0
Frags
+

KEKW GGBET PEOPLE SUPPORTING GENg 😆

#263
gautam2909
0
Frags
+

Hello everyone.. TSM is coming back...!!

#264
ToastByToast
1
Frags
+

GG. what a fucking comeback, holy shit

#265
M4trix
0
Frags
+

Hats off To TSM man
proud of the bois

#267
Dieguzz00
0
Frags
+

I only hope Gen.G gets fined for this shitshow,how is possible in competitive doing shit like this and not being punished ahahahah

#270
NightMonkey
1
Frags
+

the bois don't know how to quite lets freaking goooooooooooo

#272
Dieguzz00
0
Frags
+

Spero in qualche malattia rara su Gen.G,qualcosa di incurabile che non li lasci più vivere normalmente🙏

#273
wanted
0
Frags
+

big copium

#279
FilthyAnimal
0
Frags
+

dw they still prob gnna qual

#274
FilthyAnimal
1
Frags
+

20-2 first k/d

#275
1234567890
0
Frags
+

20-2 fk/fd sheeesh

#276
pewpew
1
Frags
+

Wardell First Kills 20 to First Deaths 2...This man is cracked.

#278
Dieguzz00
1
Frags
+

TEN MATCHPOINTS,7-0 and 9-4 in the decider,still lost😂😂😂Gen.G dovete morire di qualcosa di grave

#283
Dieguzz00
1
Frags
+

O magari bruciate vivi,merde umane dovete andare a lavorare figli di troia

#285
pewpew
2
Frags
+

It's incredible to think that GenG was 1 kill away from winning lol. So close yet so far.

#287
sampenn1
0
Frags
+

to think that mkael not whiffing ONCE couldve won them the game, but nope too much to expect from him

#286
Yagami
4
Frags
+

Everyone knew it well, this was going to happen. This is the new TSM.

#289
D2ip
-2
Frags
+

Levithan was bottom fragging in all 3 maps any thoughts ?

#290
ILL
8
Frags
+

Take a look at his assists maybe? Mans a perfect support player

#297
WitLitning
1
Frags
+

he also got six first kills which happened to he more than ANYBODY on geng lol

#299
ranker11
-1
Frags
+

watch the game and not scoreboard smh

#294
mAko
-3
Frags
+

Tbh if Levi gonna be meh, I could see TSM picking Sinatra

#295
WitLitning
1
Frags
+

Final stats on Split, per the VOD. The website was not updated (EDIT: at the time, but now it is thanks)
https://gyazo.com/e566610413efbc51163ad76e96068b23

#296
pluggg
0
Frags
+

so NaturE holds the most kills now?

#298
Reta_lol
0
Frags
+

GG Gen G. Not even close ****

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