I think Americas 1 for sure and apac and emea fight for second
HershieBoi [#3]forgetting China exists. Watch in like 1-2 years China will be the same as Americas.
next level cope
OkOkay [#2]americas> apac> africa > russia> EUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU ( 0DIGUSTING REGION AAAAAAA)AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa
then why are you using an emea flair?
HershieBoi [#3]forgetting China exists. Watch in like 1-2 years China will be the same as Americas.
Why the same level as a trash region? China will be the best
vooooooooooooooooooooooop [#4]next level cope
nah he spittin fax. In fact, China will be the best region!
CoCloudy [#9]delulu answer: apac > kr > jp > oce > cn > eu> na > sa > mena > russia
for real answer: russia > eu > na > sa > apac > kr > cn > oce > jp > mena
swap oce and jp otherwise good list
msarez [#10]swap oce and jp otherwise good list
I agree with you to some capacity, you can still see oce players perform in regions outside of their own and still do well
but with jp players, you dont really see them go outside of kr or jp,
CoCloudy [#9]delulu answer: apac > kr > jp > oce > cn > eu> na > sa > mena > russia
for real answer: russia > eu > na > sa > apac > kr > cn > oce > jp > mena
russia is a region? LMFAO
also, APAC includes KR JP CN😭
StutterSt3p [#13]If we're going based on depth as of now, which is how we should be going, it's: Americas >> EMEA > Pacific > CN (Pacific is close to catching EMEA tbh though)
emea over all has more talent just not as much structure compared to americas
dapada [#12]russia is a region? LMFAO
also, APAC includes KR JP CN😭
im just doing them in terms of how riot considers them
CoCloudy [#15]emea over all has more talent just not as much structure compared to americas
I was judging depth based on teams not on players, because judging the overall talent of an entire region is extremely difficult. However, you can look at the results of teams in a given region, and specifically the players on those teams to help determine the depth of a region based on how many competitive teams it can produce.
dapada [#12]russia is a region? LMFAO
also, APAC includes KR JP CN😭
vro started watching vct this week
StutterSt3p [#18]I was judging depth based on teams not on players, because judging the overall talent of an entire region is extremely difficult. However, you can look at the results of teams in a given region, and specifically the players on those teams to help determine the depth of a region based on how many competitive teams it can produce.
emea js needs another year or 2 cause franchising broke apart all the good teams pretty much
which is the main reason why they arent their best compared to americas
FolkHunter14 [#22]honest opinion Americas will be ass
i no longer have hope for g2 and the only saving grace might be nrg but crashies needs to wake the fuck up
Bro thought the 2nd best team in t2 who had 1 good tournament was going to be the “savior” of the region that won champions. 😆
Americas > Pacific > EMEA > CN
PRX/LOUD/FNC > EG > DRX = CN > NA > EMEA > KR = BR > APAC > JPN = LATAM
EG are an one time exception this year by NA, the rest of the region just choked really hard and I can't see them being better in an rematch between them and the other TOP 4 teams (LOUD played against them after almost 3 days of non-stop series, Champions was the first international LAN from that PRX full squad and FNC was probably the strongest team to have some chance, but got knocked out before)
DRX and China had similar results this year
Chinese teams are better than the rest of the NA teams
NA teams are more competitive than EMEA teams
KR teams just doesn't exist besides DRX, same to BR with LOUD (maybe Furia could do something, but choked)
APAC outside PRX can't do anything too
JPN and LATAM, I don't think I need to say something more than this
If we are going off of most likely rosters going into next year
Pacific < EMEA < Americas (need to see more of China in the VCT before I make a judgement on them)
Teams in both Pacific and EMEA are cooking with their rosters at the moment, there is a lot of competition growing the middle of the table in both regions. Meanwhile in America, maybe aside from LEV, nothing really excites me. I would have put more faith in G2 but they have slightly disappointed in their friendlies so far (not ridiculously but imo they should have been the team to win the Sen Invitational on paper), hopefully though they can find their groove quickly because I want them to do well.
LouBag [#24]Bro thought the 2nd best team in t2 who had 1 good tournament was going to be the “savior” of the region that won champions. 😆
Have fun with stellar and corey on your team kekw
CoCloudy [#9]delulu answer: apac > kr > jp > oce > cn > eu> na > sa > mena > russia
for real answer: russia > eu > na > sa > apac > kr > cn > oce > jp > mena
hahahaha you fucking disguting kangaroo
MENA shits on OCE all day why you ranking like this?
Styling911 [#28]hahahaha you fucking disguting kangaroo
MENA shits on OCE all day why you ranking like this?
oce has talent across multiple regions
and they also get way less chances to compete rather than mena
CoCloudy [#29]oce has talent across multiple regions
and they also get way less chances to compete rather than mena
he is a known baiter
SmartPerson [#5]then why are you using an emea flair?
Because KC is the only good EU team (they will be carried by NA import n4rrate)
CoCloudy [#21]emea js needs another year or 2 cause franchising broke apart all the good teams pretty much
which is the main reason why they arent their best compared to americas
gambit- already broken
fnatic- got better
21 acend- alr gone
fut- got better
bbl- got better
The idea that franchising broke EMEA is crazy
Psion [#32]gambit- already broken
fnatic- got better
21 acend- alr gone
fut- got better
bbl- got betterThe idea that franchising broke EMEA is crazy
it did break emea tho?
Psion [#34]like 1/2 of the teams in franchising got better
how? the only real contenders from emea this year was navi and fnc?
CoCloudy [#11]I agree with you to some capacity, you can still see oce players perform in regions outside of their own and still do well
but with jp players, you dont really see them go outside of kr or jp,
True but Japan still got second in ascension(even though it was carried by Russians) And have a t1 team that made champs, OCE has great players but not really any one great team
Pengu12 [#36]True but Japan still got second in ascension(even though it was carried by Russians) And have a t1 team that made champs, OCE has great players but not really any one great team
yeah cause its really hard for oce to get good opportunities internationally unless they get imported. which is why oce kinda has its own small league.
NA_BEST_COUNTRY [#31]Because KC is the only good EU team (they will be carried by NA import n4rrate)
based. n4rrate stomps all over these washed shitmea bots
CoCloudy [#37]yeah cause its really hard for oce to get good opportunities internationally unless they get imported. which is why oce kinda has its own small league.
oce is just bad
Nakao [#25]Americas > Pacific > EMEA > CN
PRX/LOUD/FNC > EG > DRX = CN > NA > EMEA > KR = BR > APAC > JPN = LATAM
EG are an one time exception this year by NA, the rest of the region just choked really hard and I can't see them being better in an rematch between them and the other TOP 4 teams (LOUD played against them after almost 3 days of non-stop series, Champions was the first international LAN from that PRX full squad and FNC was probably the strongest team to have some chance, but got knocked out before)
DRX and China had similar results this year
Chinese teams are better than the rest of the NA teams
NA teams are more competitive than EMEA teams
KR teams just doesn't exist besides DRX, same to BR with LOUD (maybe Furia could do something, but choked)
APAC outside PRX can't do anything too
JPN and LATAM, I don't think I need to say something more than this
both latam teams CLEAR jpn and most apac teams, even br (furia and mibr)
keep in mind that you put mibr above apac like wtf is that take
CoCloudy [#37]yeah cause its really hard for oce to get good opportunities internationally unless they get imported. which is why oce kinda has its own small league.
So essentially Japan >>>
OkOkay [#2]americas> apac> africa > russia> EUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU ( 0DIGUSTING REGION AAAAAAA)AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa
EMEA > AMERICAS > APAC > CHINA
CoCloudy [#35]how? the only real contenders from emea this year was navi and fnc?
FUT who literally did better than n0vi
number2_cNed_fan [#50]FUT who literally did better than n0vi
they had the easiest group ?
you cant tell me fut played better at champs over navi...
CoCloudy [#51]they had the easiest group ?
you cant tell me fut played better at champs over navi...
Even if FUT had an easy group, n0vi played like they didn't want to win. They sold so many easy rounds against DRX and LOUD.
Now that the goat is free from n0vi, FUT will clear that fraud team + Suygetsu
number2_cNed_fan [#52]Even if FUT had an easy group, n0vi played like they didn't want to win. They sold so many easy rounds against DRX and LOUD.
Now that the goat is free from n0vi, FUT will clear that fraud team + Suygetsu
think everyone can agree navi was miles better than they looked like at tokyo or lcq, they just had to get the hardest group
This is very difficult. But I think it looks something like this:
EMEA > Americas > Pacific >= China
People are sleeping on CN imo, and EMEA is still objectively speaking the best region. Heck, they've got FNC and countless amazing talents. NA teams are overrated and imo LEV is the only remaining savior of Americas. Sentinels and C9 just don't look that good.
geospliced [#60]This is very difficult. But I think it looks something like this:
EMEA > Americas > Pacific >= China
People are sleeping on CN imo, and EMEA is still objectively speaking the best region. Heck, they've got FNC and countless amazing talents. NA teams are overrated and imo LEV is the only remaining savior of Americas. Sentinels and C9 just don't look that good.
I'm going to get so cancelled :(
CoCloudy [#35]how? the only real contenders from emea this year was navi and fnc?
that doesnt mean teams didnt get better lol it just means a lot of teams were bad
Giants got better
FUT got better
Navi got bEtter
FNC got better
Vitality got better before the incident
thats 5 already and bbl and Liquid both debatably got better (Liquid actually won something and BBL was bad before)
heretics aswell ^
geospliced [#61]I'm going to get so cancelled :(
yes you are, speaking facts is illegal in this site
Psion [#62]that doesnt mean teams didnt get better lol it just means a lot of teams were bad
Giants got better
FUT got better
Navi got bEtter
FNC got better
Vitality got better before the incident
thats 5 already and bbl and Liquid both debatably got better (Liquid actually won something and BBL was bad before)
heretics aswell ^
sure they did better but still were not that good to start off with
CoCloudy [#65]sure they did better but still were not that good to start off with
then how tf was EMEA broken if they were not that good to start off with?
NA_BEST_COUNTRY [#31]Because KC is the only good EU team (they will be carried by NA import n4rrate)
delusional