MxM 2-1 M80
Lotus 9-13
Haven 13-7
Pearl 13-10
thief goes bananas
sym
MxM
|
flyuh
MxM
|
thief
MxM
|
aproto
MxM
|
brawk
MxM
|
|
johnqt
M80
|
6
1
+5
|
5
0
+5
|
7
8
-1
|
7
10
-3
|
3
7
-4
|
NiSMO
M80
|
7
4
+3
|
11
5
+6
|
3
4
-1
|
5
5
+0
|
7
8
-1
|
koalanoob
M80
|
8
7
+1
|
9
4
+5
|
4
8
-4
|
10
5
+5
|
8
3
+5
|
eeiu
M80
|
11
3
+8
|
2
5
-3
|
6
5
+1
|
7
4
+3
|
6
4
+2
|
zander
M80
|
7
3
+4
|
8
7
+1
|
11
5
+6
|
5
4
+1
|
7
4
+3
|
sym
MxM
|
flyuh
MxM
|
thief
MxM
|
aproto
MxM
|
brawk
MxM
|
|
johnqt
M80
|
1
0
+1
|
|
1
0
+1
|
1
1
+0
|
|
NiSMO
M80
|
2
2
+0
|
4
0
+4
|
1
0
+1
|
1
1
+0
|
2
1
+1
|
koalanoob
M80
|
2
4
-2
|
2
1
+1
|
1
1
+0
|
3
2
+1
|
1
0
+1
|
eeiu
M80
|
|
|
1
0
+1
|
|
1
0
+1
|
zander
M80
|
3
0
+3
|
0
1
-1
|
|
|
|
sym
MxM
|
flyuh
MxM
|
thief
MxM
|
aproto
MxM
|
brawk
MxM
|
|
johnqt
M80
|
|
|
|
1
0
+1
|
|
NiSMO
M80
|
|
|
|
|
|
koalanoob
M80
|
1
0
+1
|
1
0
+1
|
1
0
+1
|
2
0
+2
|
1
0
+1
|
eeiu
M80
|
1
0
+1
|
|
|
|
|
zander
M80
|
|
|
|
|
|
2K | 3K | 4K | 5K | 1v1 | 1v2 | 1v3 | 1v4 | 1v5 | ECON | PL | DE | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
eeiu
M80
|
|
5
|
1
|
|
|
|
1
|
|
|
|
73
|
11
|
1
|
johnqt
M80
|
|
4
|
|
|
|
1
|
|
|
|
|
62
|
3
|
0
|
koalanoob
M80
|
|
10
|
3
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
65
|
1
|
0
|
NiSMO
M80
|
|
3
|
3
|
1
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
63
|
0
|
2
|
zander
M80
|
|
5
|
1
|
1
|
1
|
1
|
1
|
|
|
|
70
|
3
|
0
|
thief
MxM
|
|
4
|
2
|
|
|
1
|
|
|
|
|
60
|
1
|
0
|
aproto
MxM
|
|
2
|
2
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
54
|
2
|
0
|
brawk
MxM
|
|
5
|
3
|
|
|
|
1
|
3
|
|
|
53
|
8
|
1
|
flyuh
MxM
|
|
5
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
37
|
1
|
0
|
sym
MxM
|
|
1
|
|
|
|
1
|
|
|
|
|
35
|
1
|
0
|
sym
MxM
|
flyuh
MxM
|
thief
MxM
|
aproto
MxM
|
brawk
MxM
|
|
johnqt
M80
|
4
0
+4
|
5
0
+5
|
2
3
-1
|
5
7
-2
|
3
3
+0
|
NiSMO
M80
|
4
4
+0
|
5
2
+3
|
1
3
-2
|
5
3
+2
|
3
4
-1
|
koalanoob
M80
|
4
3
+1
|
4
3
+1
|
4
4
+0
|
3
2
+1
|
7
3
+4
|
eeiu
M80
|
5
3
+2
|
1
2
-1
|
3
3
+0
|
4
4
+0
|
2
2
+0
|
zander
M80
|
4
1
+3
|
2
5
-3
|
7
3
+4
|
1
2
-1
|
3
2
+1
|
sym
MxM
|
flyuh
MxM
|
thief
MxM
|
aproto
MxM
|
brawk
MxM
|
|
johnqt
M80
|
1
0
+1
|
|
1
0
+1
|
1
1
+0
|
|
NiSMO
M80
|
1
2
-1
|
3
0
+3
|
1
0
+1
|
1
0
+1
|
1
1
+0
|
koalanoob
M80
|
0
1
-1
|
1
0
+1
|
1
0
+1
|
2
0
+2
|
1
0
+1
|
eeiu
M80
|
|
|
1
0
+1
|
|
|
zander
M80
|
1
0
+1
|
0
1
-1
|
|
|
|
sym
MxM
|
flyuh
MxM
|
thief
MxM
|
aproto
MxM
|
brawk
MxM
|
|
johnqt
M80
|
|
|
|
1
0
+1
|
|
NiSMO
M80
|
|
|
|
|
|
koalanoob
M80
|
|
|
1
0
+1
|
|
1
0
+1
|
eeiu
M80
|
|
|
|
|
|
zander
M80
|
|
|
|
|
|
2K | 3K | 4K | 5K | 1v1 | 1v2 | 1v3 | 1v4 | 1v5 | ECON | PL | DE | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
eeiu
M80
|
|
3
Round 1
aproto
flyuh
Round 20
thief
brawk
Round 23
aproto
sym
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
54
|
6
|
1
|
johnqt
M80
|
|
3
Round 3
sym
aproto
Round 19
brawk
flyuh
Round 23
brawk
flyuh
|
|
|
|
1
Round 23
flyuh
|
|
|
|
|
73
|
3
|
0
|
koalanoob
M80
|
|
7
Round 5
brawk
thief
Round 9
flyuh
brawk
Round 10
brawk
flyuh
Round 11
flyuh
brawk
Round 14
thief
brawk
Round 17
flyuh
sym
Round 20
aproto
sym
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
69
|
1
|
0
|
NiSMO
M80
|
|
3
Round 10
thief
aproto
Round 15
brawk
aproto
Round 16
flyuh
aproto
|
1
Round 22
flyuh
brawk
aproto
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
67
|
0
|
1
|
zander
M80
|
|
2
Round 13
flyuh
thief
Round 19
sym
aproto
|
1
Round 7
brawk
flyuh
thief
|
|
|
1
Round 19
aproto
|
|
|
|
|
55
|
0
|
0
|
thief
MxM
|
|
|
2
Round 8
johnqt
NiSMO
zander
Round 12
NiSMO
eeiu
zander
|
|
|
1
Round 1
eeiu
|
|
|
|
|
54
|
1
|
0
|
aproto
MxM
|
|
2
Round 7
johnqt
NiSMO
Round 10
zander
johnqt
|
2
Round 6
johnqt
eeiu
koalanoob
Round 19
NiSMO
koalanoob
eeiu
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
59
|
2
|
0
|
brawk
MxM
|
|
2
Round 2
NiSMO
eeiu
Round 21
koalanoob
johnqt
|
2
Round 3
zander
koalanoob
johnqt
Round 4
zander
eeiu
johnqt
|
|
|
|
|
2
Round 4
johnqt
zander
eeiu
Round 17
johnqt
zander
eeiu
|
|
|
45
|
6
|
1
|
flyuh
MxM
|
|
3
Round 1
koalanoob
zander
Round 5
zander
NiSMO
Round 15
zander
koalanoob
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
34
|
0
|
0
|
sym
MxM
|
|
|
|
|
|
1
Round 21
eeiu
|
|
|
|
|
40
|
1
|
0
|
sym
MxM
|
flyuh
MxM
|
thief
MxM
|
aproto
MxM
|
brawk
MxM
|
|
johnqt
M80
|
2
1
+1
|
|
5
5
+0
|
2
3
-1
|
0
4
-4
|
NiSMO
M80
|
3
0
+3
|
6
3
+3
|
2
1
+1
|
0
2
-2
|
4
4
+0
|
koalanoob
M80
|
4
4
+0
|
5
1
+4
|
0
4
-4
|
7
3
+4
|
1
0
+1
|
eeiu
M80
|
6
0
+6
|
1
3
-2
|
3
2
+1
|
3
0
+3
|
4
2
+2
|
zander
M80
|
3
2
+1
|
6
2
+4
|
4
2
+2
|
4
2
+2
|
4
2
+2
|
sym
MxM
|
flyuh
MxM
|
thief
MxM
|
aproto
MxM
|
brawk
MxM
|
|
johnqt
M80
|
|
|
|
|
|
NiSMO
M80
|
1
0
+1
|
1
0
+1
|
|
0
1
-1
|
1
0
+1
|
koalanoob
M80
|
2
3
-1
|
1
1
+0
|
0
1
-1
|
1
2
-1
|
|
eeiu
M80
|
|
|
|
|
1
0
+1
|
zander
M80
|
2
0
+2
|
|
|
|
|
sym
MxM
|
flyuh
MxM
|
thief
MxM
|
aproto
MxM
|
brawk
MxM
|
|
johnqt
M80
|
|
|
|
|
|
NiSMO
M80
|
|
|
|
|
|
koalanoob
M80
|
1
0
+1
|
1
0
+1
|
|
2
0
+2
|
|
eeiu
M80
|
1
0
+1
|
|
|
|
|
zander
M80
|
|
|
|
|
|
2K | 3K | 4K | 5K | 1v1 | 1v2 | 1v3 | 1v4 | 1v5 | ECON | PL | DE | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
eeiu
M80
|
|
2
Round 12
thief
brawk
Round 17
thief
sym
|
1
Round 18
sym
thief
aproto
|
|
|
|
1
Round 12
thief
brawk
|
|
|
|
92
|
5
|
0
|
johnqt
M80
|
|
1
Round 10
aproto
thief
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
51
|
0
|
0
|
koalanoob
M80
|
|
3
Round 2
aproto
brawk
Round 9
aproto
flyuh
Round 11
sym
aproto
|
3
Round 3
flyuh
aproto
sym
Round 7
flyuh
sym
aproto
Round 16
sym
aproto
flyuh
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
60
|
0
|
0
|
NiSMO
M80
|
|
|
2
Round 4
sym
brawk
flyuh
Round 5
thief
sym
brawk
|
1
Round 14
brawk
flyuh
sym
thief
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
59
|
0
|
1
|
zander
M80
|
|
3
Round 11
brawk
thief
Round 12
flyuh
aproto
Round 15
aproto
thief
|
|
1
Round 1
sym
brawk
flyuh
aproto
|
1
Round 8
sym
aproto
flyuh
thief
brawk
|
|
1
Round 8
thief
brawk
|
|
|
|
85
|
3
|
0
|
thief
MxM
|
|
4
Round 3
koalanoob
eeiu
Round 6
koalanoob
zander
Round 8
johnqt
eeiu
Round 12
zander
johnqt
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
65
|
0
|
0
|
aproto
MxM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
48
|
0
|
0
|
brawk
MxM
|
|
3
Round 3
zander
johnqt
Round 6
eeiu
NiSMO
Round 10
eeiu
johnqt
|
1
Round 15
zander
NiSMO
johnqt
|
|
|
|
1
Round 10
johnqt
eeiu
|
1
Round 15
NiSMO
johnqt
zander
|
|
|
61
|
2
|
0
|
flyuh
MxM
|
|
2
Round 13
NiSMO
eeiu
Round 14
zander
eeiu
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
40
|
1
|
0
|
sym
MxM
|
|
1
Round 10
koalanoob
zander
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
30
|
0
|
0
|
https://www.vlr.gg/event/1458/challengers-league-north-america/playoffs sadly no, they destroy sr.. but we'll see what are both of these team doing, or maybe lower bracket team.
i mean it all doesn't matter until the playoff (because you can look good in the split but when it matters the most you choke), and I also think m80 was actually strat saving in the split.. (G2 is diff case LMFAO) + m80 destroyed them in the playoff.. (not an m80 fan, just saying the truth) but let's see if Moist can make it happens :D
tgrd beating g2 [tgrd having an even CLOSER match with m80 than with moist] (https://www.vlr.gg/185980/m80-vs-the-guard-challengers-league-north-america-ubf/?game=120857&tab=overview)
Think about it. If moist 2-0'd tgrd, but the match-up with m80 vs tgrd was a 2-1, moist more easily beat tgrd, which means they played better than m80. Even in the LAST match up with m80 vs moist, moist should've won it because on ascent moist got 7 rounds while attacking on a defender sided map, but back then, moist's defense was definitely lacking. Now their defensive side of ascent is much better, since they have a new comp now as well. Also, flyuh had an off match while everyone else was on point. When your igl is playing bad, it's practically impossible to win the match. Anyways, it'll be close, but I'm definitely leaning on moist's side. I understand supporting m80, but saying it won't be close is beyond delusional.
I think bind is a fake perma ban for m80 and they might not ban it. Even if it is they can bluff it and keep it floating. I don’t see a world where mxm pick bind especially since they have 0 footage of m80 on bind while m80 do. The vetos will be hard to predict but a possible one could look like this
Mxm ban split
M80 ban haven
Mxm pick lotus
M80 pick fracture
Mxm ban bind
M80 ban ascent
Pearl remains
The vetos would favor m80 more since mxm aren’t good on fracture and m80 can pick attack first on lotus get a big lead and close it out on defence
Edit: I was wrong about bind and I think mxm will 2-1. Fracture is a fake perma ban for moist
Here's a question though: Do you think MxM will keep their comps the same? If MxM change their Lotus comp, it makes it very likely for me that they take Lotus. Even if they keep their comp the same, MxM have good odds of taking Lotus.
Also, we haven't seen MxM play fracture in a long time. They played Bind for the first time against the Guard and beat them. I'm pretty sure they'll have something ready for Fracture.
M80 could pull a comp change on Pearl, but even so, I'd say MxM's odds look pretty good. As it stands, M80 is favored, but only just a bit.