BEST IN THE WORLD
- Leo
- Derke
- Less
- Aspas
- Suygetsu
Honourable mentions: Chronicle, Shao, Sacy, Mako and pAncada
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alitmanus [#3]those clowns aint better than aspas and less for winning an icebox on overtime with lucky clutches, clown
try nextAspas underperforming yet went positive against derke
imagine if the goat was on
Wouldn't even goto Icebox if Fnatic didn't get crowd buff in Map 3.
alitmanus [#3]those clowns aint better than aspas and less for winning an icebox on overtime with lucky clutches, clown
try nextAspas underperforming yet went positive against derke
imagine if the goat was on
so aspas and less are better cause they lost an 11-3 lead in the last map of the finals?
zardinez [#2]Shao over suy. Otherwise not an awful list.
Atleast we can agree no NA player is good enough atm
Yessirskiiii [#14]Shao not in top 3... They should lock you up for crimes against humanity
who would you take out of that top three to fit shao in dawg
h9zard [#11]so aspas and less are better cause they lost an 11-3 lead in the last map of the finals?
they are better because they had better results in 2022 and managed to have a 11-3 against 5 experienced players from 5 different countries with 2 rookies in their team
derke and LEO were watching Aspas and less from home when they were playing the most watched valorant series of all time
Dokka [#15]who would you take out of that top three to fit shao in dawg
Less obviously lol. Shao got the superior stats in every LAN they played + he's the best clutch player in the world. I'd put him over Derke too (slightly)
Yessirskiiii [#19]Less obviously lol. Shao got the superior stats in every LAN they played + he's the best clutch player in the world. I'd put him over Derke too (slightly)
Respectfully, Shao is not better then Derke
Also better stats =//= better player
I'd put mako, aspas and chronicle above shao imo
Valgod [#20]Derke is a very overrated choker, until icebox he was doing his best to lose the final. Rewatch that split game again and tell me he's a top 5 player in the world
lmfao
Dokka [#21]Respectfully, Shao is not better then Derke
Also better stats =//= better player
I'd put mako, aspas and chronicle above shao imo
Stats don't = best but when Shao has pretty much every LAN the best stats + the eye test tells me he's one of the best and on top of that easily the best clutch player itw. Respectfully if you think Mako is better than Shao you should stop watchiing Val. Mvp for a reason
Yessirskiiii [#23]Stats don't = best but when Shao has pretty much every LAN the best stats + the eye test tells me he's one of the best and on top of that easily the best clutch player itw. Respectfully if you think Mako is better than Shao you should stop watchiing Val. Mvp for a reason
Suygetsu was the MVP over Shao if you're forgetting
Shao is indeed the best clutch player in the world
However, there are better initiators than him in terms of utility, every time I watch Shao I'm incredibly impressed by his mechanics but his util is utterly average imo
He's also doesn't have the best stats for every category, just overall
However with Mako,
Mako is not only the best controller utility-wise, but he also saves DRX singlehandedly all. the. time. His impact is always visible even in losses
honestly im pretty sure k1ng is definitely the best player
Dokka [#24]Suygetsu was the MVP over Shao if you're forgetting
Shao is indeed the best clutch player in the world
However, there are better initiators than him in terms of utility, every time I watch Shao I'm incredibly impressed by his mechanics but his util is utterly average imo
He's also doesn't have the best stats for every category, just overallHowever with Mako,
Mako is not only the best controller utility-wise, but he also saves DRX singlehandedly all. the. time. His impact is always visible even in losseshonestly im pretty sure k1ng is definitely the best player
Suygetsu was only the finals mvp. Shao was the overall tourney mvp
Dokka [#24]Suygetsu was the MVP over Shao if you're forgetting
Shao is indeed the best clutch player in the world
However, there are better initiators than him in terms of utility, every time I watch Shao I'm incredibly impressed by his mechanics but his util is utterly average imo
He's also doesn't have the best stats for every category, just overallHowever with Mako,
Mako is not only the best controller utility-wise, but he also saves DRX singlehandedly all. the. time. His impact is always visible even in losseshonestly im pretty sure k1ng is definitely the best player
Shao was literally the MVP (just use google ffs) and he's got the best Fade util itw but ok 👍🏻
Yessirskiiii [#27]Shao was literally the MVP (just use google ffs) and he's got the best Fade util itw but ok 👍🏻
ok so show me, give me an example of him having the best fade util intw
Dokka [#30]ok so show me, give me an example of him having the best fade util intw
Watch a VOD of him on Fade and open your eyes lil bro. I'm not your babysitter
alitmanus [#3]those clowns aint better than aspas and less for winning an icebox on overtime with lucky clutches, clown
try nextAspas underperforming yet went positive against derke
imagine if the goat was on
Didn't derke have way better stats than aspas in every tournament they played together lmao
Yessirskiiii [#31]Watch a VOD of him on Fade and open your eyes lil bro. I'm not your babysitter
all i need is one
GreyDaze [#32]Didn't derke have way better stats than aspas in every tournament they played together lmao
Aspas in 1 year won champions in a dominant haven against Optic
derke in 3 years won Lock-in in a fluke icebox with lucky clutches
yeah DERKE is better
Shownu [#13]Atleast we can agree no NA player is good enough atm
Crashies should be in honorable mentions and if we were talking igls, fns solos. That being said yeah no NA player has a standout performance at lock in and made it deep (compared to most other regions).
alitmanus [#16]they are better because they had better results in 2022 and managed to have a 11-3 against 5 experienced players from 5 different countries with 2 rookies in their team
derke and LEO were watching Aspas and less from home when they were playing the most watched valorant series of all time
The results don't matter when it comes to who the best individual players are. The best player in the world can play on a bad team and not get very far. Of course, individual players are still a factor in how good a team is, but things like team synergy and chemistry determine a team's success the most (see Team Liquid).
zardinez [#2]Shao over suy. Otherwise not an awful list.
i think its arguable between those two but considering the role suygetsu plays i think i have to give it to him. Suygetsu is also much more consistent
zardinez [#39]Crashies should be in honorable mentions and if we were talking igls, fns solos. That being said yeah no NA player has a standout performance at lock in and made it deep (compared to most other regions).
we arent talking about igls...
I definitely think pancada especially as of right now shouldnt be on the list. His conversion to his old role isnt going as smoothly as i imagined.
Derke shouldnt be above chronicle cause bro is literally an overheat machine
alitmanus [#3]those clowns aint better than aspas and less for winning an icebox on overtime with lucky clutches, clown
try nextAspas underperforming yet went positive against derke
imagine if the goat was on
bros got 3-11ed and he thinks its luck x_x
alitmanus [#3]those clowns aint better than aspas and less for winning an icebox on overtime with lucky clutches, clown
try nextAspas underperforming yet went positive against derke
imagine if the goat was on
Kid is still crying from that loud throw lmfao. The way y'll got butthurt and left the stadium 😭💀💀.
gablin [#41]The results don't matter when it comes to who the best individual players are. The best player in the world can play on a bad team and not get very far. Of course, individual players are still a factor in how good a team is, but things like team synergy and chemistry determine a team's success the most (see Team Liquid).
so this just proves Aspas is better
Derke needed 4 best players from 4 different countries to beat Aspas with 2 rookies on overtime
Adrik [#46]Kid is still crying from that loud throw lmfao. The way y'll got butthurt and left the stadium 😭💀💀.
glad you know it was a Loud throw
Loud is times better than shitnatic
alitmanus [#34]Aspas in 1 year won champions in a dominant haven against Optic
derke in 3 years won Lock-in in a fluke icebox with lucky clutches
yeah DERKE is better
lmao
Swxtch [#45]Bro how does no one put yay on a top 5 list anymore. He absolutely smurfed on every team and region last year, everyone thinks he's just a chamber one trick. My boy Yay will come back with a vengeance after he practices all year
Because he is mid after Chamber nerf. He only won Iceland because FPX had visa issues and Derke had COVID.
Shownu [#52]Because he is mid after Chamber nerf. He only won Iceland because FPX had visa issues and Derke had COVID.
I have a big brain prediction that FNC won't win anything else other than lock-in💀 Great team but I have a feeling they'll get figured out. Yay will come back and save us all
Swxtch [#53]I have a big brain prediction that FNC won't win anything else other than lock-in💀 Great team but I have a feeling they'll get figured out. Yay will come back and save us all
Not happening, his fluke was until Iceland 2022, he is the one that figured out and now he is not wanted
alitmanus [#34]Aspas in 1 year won champions in a dominant haven against Optic
derke in 3 years won Lock-in in a fluke icebox with lucky clutches
yeah DERKE is better
Talk about stats Lil bro. Derke had far better acs and rating in Copenhagen,Istanbul and Sao Paulo. Not his fault fnc are serial chokers.
FDWC- [#54]don't disrespect my boy MaKo like that Shownu
He is in honourable mentions, that's enough respect. Also he ain't better than the current top 5 so no.
Valgod [#20]Derke is a very overrated choker, until icebox he was doing his best to lose the final. Rewatch that split game again and tell me he's a top 5 player in the world
I just watched that game and can tell he is not top 5 but top 3 itw
GreyDaze [#56]Talk about stats Lil bro. Derke had far better acs and rating in Copenhagen,Istanbul and Sao Paulo. Not his fault fnc are serial chokers.
yet it was Aspas lifting the trophy in istanbul
alitmanus [#59]yet it was Aspas lifting the trophy in istanbul
Derke has lifted too. Aspas was a ghost in the 2nd half of Icebox. Honestly speaking Fnatic was about to 3-0 but lost momentum
alitmanus [#59]yet it was Aspas lifting the trophy in istanbul
Yet it was derke with way better stats. Trophies are not the only indicator for a player's individual capabilities. If u can't comprehend that u can't follow a single competitive event
Shownu [#60]Derke has lifted too. Aspas was a ghost in the 2nd half of Icebox. Honestly speaking Fnatic was about to 3-0 but lost momentum
honestly speaking they wouldn't even win ascent if Loud was using their original comp
GreyDaze [#61]Yet it was derke with way better stats. Trophies are not the only indicator for a player's individual capabilities. If u can't comprehend that u can't follow a single competitive event
Laz also had better stats in istanbul
laz best player itw
also if you want to compare stats, Less had the best stats in the grand finals, he was the real MVP
but everyone was licking the balls of Leo and Chronicle lmao
alitmanus [#63]Laz also had better stats in istanbul
laz best player itw
also if you want to compare stats, Less had the best stats in the grand finals, he was the real MVP
but everyone was licking the balls of Leo and Chronicle lmao
Braindead logic. Look at the rounds played. U have room temp iq.
Also Leo had a way better tournament overall than less did. And no one says chronicle>less
GreyDaze [#64]Braindead logic. Look at the rounds played. U have room temp iq.
Also Leo had a way better tournament overall than less did. And no one says chronicle>less
lmao bro you're indian and lick the balls of europeans
alitmanus [#65]lmao bro you're indian and lick the balls of europeans
No comeback so u resort to try and insult me. Again proving how braindead and immature u are. I truly pity the ppl in ur life. Regardless aspas and less have had the outer layer of the skin on their balls ripped away from the vigorous licking u gave them. Also I didn't know it was possible to fit as many dicks up ur ass as u are able to with all the Brazilian players having one inside u at the same time
GreyDaze [#67]No comeback so u resort to try and insult me. Again proving how braindead and immature u are. I truly pity the ppl in ur life. Regardless aspas and less have had the outer layer of the skin on their balls ripped away from the vigorous licking u gave them. Also I didn't know it was possible to fit as many dicks up ur ass as u are able to with all the Brazilian players having one inside u at the same time
I just don't get why would someone from india do so much mental gymnastics to defend european team
alitmanus [#68]I just don't get why would someone from india do so much mental gymnastics to defend european team
I don't get how someone from Brazil,one of the most talented football countries itw would have 0 knowledge of how to rate players in a Competitive game
GreyDaze [#71]I don't get how someone from Brazil,one of the most talented football countries itw would have 0 knowledge of how to rate players in a Competitive game
bcuz you're the one rating wrongly here
alitmanus [#72]bcuz you're the one rating wrongly here
Didn't refute a single thing I said still😂. Cope and seethe. U literally don't have an answer for what I said
GreyDaze [#73]Didn't refute a single thing I said still😂. Cope and seethe. U literally don't have an answer for what I said
I really don't because it's a fallacy and it's not possible to refute fallacies because they lack coherence
you literally talked about rounds, ignoring that aspas played more rounds than Derke
then you didn't understand why I mentioned Less having better stats in grand finals;
I_am_from_the_future [#70]2022 MVP doesn't belong in april 2023 top5 list? kkkkkkkkkkkkk
Brother, this is post coming from a braindead shitposter. I wouldn't put too much thought into their choices
alitmanus [#74]I really don't because it's a fallacy and it's not possible to refute fallacies because they lack coherence
you literally talked about rounds, ignoring that aspas played more rounds than Derke
then you didn't understand why I mentioned Less having better stats in grand finals;
?? I called u braindead rightly so bcoz u brought in laz who had less than half of derke and aspas. the round differential is barely 50 between derke and aspas. How is it a fallacy. U are just too full of dicks up ur ass to realize the facts. Less having better stats ingf may make him better player in gf but in overall tournament Leo is clear mvp which is something even my grandma can agree upon lmao. God how can a person be this dumb I don't understand.....
GreyDaze [#76]?? I called u braindead rightly so bcoz u brought in laz who had less than half of derke and aspas. the round differential is barely 50 between derke and aspas. How is it a fallacy. U are just too full of dicks up ur ass to realize the facts. Less having better stats ingf may make him better player in gf but in overall tournament Leo is clear mvp which is something even my grandma can agree upon lmao. God how can a person be this dumb I don't understand.....
Less and Aspas are brazilians, they speak portuguese, they represent my country, they have portuguese ancestry like me, they share the same culture as me
Derke doesn't know a single word in hindi bro
and your ass is filled with his dick
he actually knows "Saadhak", but I think it's sanskrit and Idk if he knows it
lmao
Shownu [#57]He is in honourable mentions, that's enough respect. Also he ain't better than the current top 5 so no.
He’s had better stats than Suygetsu, diffed him in their last two games, and is way more consistent. Genuinely don’t see what you EMEA fanboys see in this Suygetsu crybaby
alitmanus [#77]Less and Aspas are brazilians, they speak portuguese, they represent my country, they have portuguese ancestry like me, they share the same culture as me
Derke doesn't know a single word in hindi bro
and your ass is filled with his dick
he actually knows "Saadhak", but I think it's sanskrit and Idk if he knows itlmao
Again completely unintelligible,immature and brain rot response that again proves everything i said about u and ur pathetic life. Smh try for better comebacks and next time try to use something called logic and common sense to try and refute atleast a single of my point rather than make urself look a bigger buffoon with each letter u type and the random bs u spew. God anonymity on the internet has made dipshits like u pop out of their mom's basements and showcase their room temperature iq and 12 yr old logical capabilities
Shownu [#55]Not happening, his fluke was until Iceland 2022, he is the one that figured out and now he is not wanted
Tell yourself that bro 💀
GreyDaze [#82]Again completely unintelligible,immature and brain rot response that again proves everything i said about u and ur pathetic life. Smh try for better comebacks and next time try to use something called logic and common sense to try and refute atleast a single of my point rather than make urself look a bigger buffoon with each letter u type and the random bs u spew. God anonymity on the internet has made dipshits like u pop out of their mom's basements and showcase their room temperature iq and 12 yr old logical capabilities
stay mad, european's bootlicker
Sprouts [#80]He’s had better stats than Suygetsu, diffed him in their last two games, and is way more consistent. Genuinely don’t see what you EMEA fanboys see in this Suygetsu crybaby
fr, shao > soygetsu
GreyDaze [#87]Stay mad Brazilian dick chomper
it doesn't even make sense
less and aspas are the current world champions + they're my fellow countrymen
alitmanus [#88]it doesn't even make sense
less and aspas are the current world champions + they're my fellow countrymen
Current world champions=automatically best players itw😂🤡. De Paul and macallister best midfielders itw. Alvarez best striker itw. Molina best rb itw. Acuna best lb itw😱
GreyDaze [#89]Current world champions=automatically best players itw😂🤡. De Paul and macallister best midfielders itw. Alvarez best striker itw. Molina best rb itw. Acuna best lb itw😱
I didn't mean that
you're a illiterate
alitmanus [#90]I didn't mean that
you're a illiterate
Ironic coming from u who is probably the most braindead user on this site
GreyDaze [#91]Ironic coming from u who is probably the most braindead user on this site
says the indian who bootlicks europeans
alitmanus [#92]says the indian who bootlicks europeans
Says the Brazilian with 10 over Brazilian dicks inside of him constantly. BTW still haven't disproved my point. Expected as much from u.
GreyDaze [#93]Says the Brazilian with 10 over Brazilian dicks inside of him constantly. BTW still haven't disproved my point. Expected as much from u.
european's bootlicker talking about dicks inside is ironic
what point? you contradicted yourself
alitmanus [#94]european's bootlicker talking about dicks inside is ironic
what point? you contradicted yourself
How exactly did I contradict myself lmao? All I can take away from our convo is u have not even room temp iq even lower, u are just braindead,u can't handle truth, u will resort to the same kind of insults when u have no comeback, u are braindead, u ignore stats that are lying right in front of u, u ride too many Brazilian dicks at once, u are braindead, u can't accept that u are wrong, ur comprehension skills are 0, u don't know what logic and common sense are and how to apply them, and did I mention u are braindead?
GreyDaze [#95]How exactly did I contradict myself lmao? All I can take away from our convo is u have not even room temp iq even lower, u are just braindead,u can't handle truth, u will resort to the same kind of insults when u have no comeback, u are braindead, u ignore stats that are lying right in front of u, u ride too many Brazilian dicks at once, u are braindead, u can't accept that u are wrong, ur comprehension skills are 0, u don't know what logic and common sense are and how to apply them, and did I mention u are braindead?
bro I have italian ancestry and citizenship and even tho I would never dickride europeans that bad
I feel bad for indians having a countryman like you
alitmanus [#96]bro I have italian ancestry and citizenship and even tho I would never dickride europeans that bad
I feel bad for indians having a countryman like you
Again no comeback😭. Lil bro sidestepped my question entirely. Bro stop embarrassing urself and exposing ur immaturity and stupidity. Everyone already knows it but u dont need to put urself out there with the clown paint and all. I don't need to feel bad for Brazilians for having someone like u coz Brazilians and ur family themselves hit their head against the wall everyday when thy remember u exist
GreyDaze [#98]Again no comeback😭. Lil bro sidestepped my question entirely. Bro stop embarrassing urself and exposing ur immaturity and stupidity. Everyone already knows it but u dont need to put urself out there with the clown paint and all. I don't need to feel bad for Brazilians for having someone like u coz Brazilians and ur family themselves hit their head against the wall everyday when thy remember u exist
you're talking about "dick inside" vro you cant talk about immaturity
alitmanus [#99]you're talking about "dick inside" vro you cant talk about immaturity
What a comeback!! How will I ever recover from that😭😱
GreyDaze [#100]What a comeback!! How will I ever recover from that😭😱
I've already countered this stats fallacy, you're just too dumb to understand
I bet you don't even know what "fallacy" means
instead of bullshiting on forums, go study english vro
alitmanus [#101]I've already countered this stats fallacy, you're just too dumb to understand
I bet you don't even know what "fallacy" meansinstead of bullshiting on forums, go study english vro
Ur facts fallacy🤓🤡. I am always correct💩
GreyDaze [#102]Ur facts fallacy🤓🤡. I am always correct💩
if you want me to help you with english you can add me on discord
you clearly have a poor vocabulary
alitmanus [#103]if you want me to help you with english you can add me on discord
you clearly have a poor vocabulary
No my English better than British🤓. Also what can a basement dweller teach me about vocabulary and grammar. Go and scrub the cheetos dust off ur triple chins. I can conclude how useless it was to argue with a dick gobbler like u. Thanks for entertaining me clown. Always need some entertainment just b4 i sleep watching kids like u cope+mald+seethe and finally cry their asses out after giving their most braindead takes ever and get shit on by me. Good night😘
GreyDaze [#104]No my English better than British🤓. Also what can a basement dweller teach me about vocabulary and grammar. Go and scrub the cheetos dust off ur triple chins. I can conclude how useless it was to argue with a dick gobbler like u. Thanks for entertaining me clown. Always need some entertainment just b4 i sleep watching kids like u cope+mald+seethe and finally cry their asses out after giving their most braindead takes ever and get shit on by me. Good night😘
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