Leo » Shao | VLR.gg

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joellogic

In pretty much any agent they play.

Higher ACS, higher player ratting in most agents and Higher damage per round.

You might not like it but those are facts. not opinions.

Also. Alfajer » Suygetsu.

Same story and way bigger agent poll.

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No

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Kirya

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0/8
shao clears so does suygetsu

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alfa over suygetsu is some crazy glazing, alfa good but not that good on senti

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joellogic

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Data proves it bro. go watch stats.
Alfajer has a greater output on pretty much everyagent they crossplay bro.
This is not my opinion. Its the data.

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Ah yeah compare Alfajer stats with Raze with Suygetsu stats on Cypher

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joellogic

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and alfa prety much playes any agent.
He's cracked at raze and jett. Suygetsu doesn't touch that.

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the jett literally doesn't matter at all, the raze also doesn't bcz chronicle probably will br playing it so that's that.
as for the sentinel role suygetsu > alfa

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nice joke

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Marshal_D_Teach

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https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1188/champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo

huh?

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joellogic

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I'm not talking about this tournament alone dude.

I'm talking overall.

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babysasuke

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try not talking at all

you are confused 💀

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joellogic

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hey bro. you must be the more ratied dude on planet earth. why keep talking?

Eat the L chronicle gave u and shut up hahaha

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babysasuke

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crazy that an entire continent lives to downvote everything I say and you're STILL farming more than me in this thread

cut your losses, apologize for being wrong, and move on

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Adi69LassiSeller

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Babyshitter just quickly post another 60-70 posts and you'll become the GOAT of vlr.
First guy to reach 10k posts??

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mortadelo is on 12k

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Adi69LassiSeller

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Never heard from that guy tbh because maybe of different timezones.

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Mortadelo

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:/

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Adi69LassiSeller

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Hello :)
Mortadelo

continue thread →

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Mortadelo

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12k in 2 years is not the same than 9k on 1, he’ll def pass me

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Marshal_D_Teach

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Zn2neACv7s

1- He goes for kills coz they are in a disadvantage ✅ (kinda lucky in the 2nd one)
2- strafe to get info where Mazino is (since he only knew the position of other 2 entering the bombsite) ✅
3- Only peeks mazino when Zyppan arrives to help him ✅
4- He only engages to duel against King when the Tacolilla isn't available to trade him (He was dueling with zyppan) ✅
5- He waits for tacolilla get impatient coz his is not peeking him, breaking Tacolilla decision making ✅

Shao plays the perfect valorant, bro. How is this guy not the best player?

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joellogic

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yeah yeah yeah

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Zayol

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MWZERA clears everyone you mention, Shao, Leo, Suygetsu, Alfajer.
By far the most talented player ever.

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joellogic

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look another mwzera simp.
The conversation wasn't even about Mwzera but the simp still simped

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Zayol

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Leo copied Mwzera's playstyle...
That should tell you how good Mwzera is.

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joellogic

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hahahaha ofc he did bro. im sure

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sxfhmilf

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leo hasnt even heard of this subequatorial fraud

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Skuul13

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you know what is commong inbetween shao, leo, suy and alfa?

none of them are good with raze xD

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Moiraine

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Have you not seen alfa play raze ? what kind of blasphemy is this
yikes

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Skuul13

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its just a joke dude xD

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Shao -

Rating: 1.45
Acs: 217.5
K:D: 2.29
KAST: 91%
ADR: 141.1
KPR: .82
FKPR: 0.1
HS%: 25%
Clutches: 7/19

Leo -

Rating: 1.37
Acs: 228.3
K:D: 1.45
KAST: 82%
ADR: 143.1
KPR: 0.78
FKPR: 0.06
HS%: 17%
Clutches: 7/23

Shao has better stats for 7/9 stats this event. Quit spewing bullshit

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joellogic

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Hey morron.
Overall stats. stupid.

not only this turnament.

you might play 3 games better than any other person no?

gargoyle

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YvngKurry

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There's no way you are comparing shao who has played far more games and events with a much higher level of competition to Leo who played a single international event and failed to make all others LMFAO ur a fucking moron. Btw learn how to spell the word moron.

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joellogic

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hey stupid morron maybe because leo didint get carried by his teammates pretty much all year

nt tho

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Kirya

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how did shao get carried by his teammates kekw he literally was the mvp of copenhagen
anyways just wait til friday when shao will hard diff him and navi will 3-0 fnatic quickly

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joellogic

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well see about that

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Cope shao clears + ange1 is hotter than boaster

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Kirya

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FAX

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You lost all credibility when you said Shao got carried... (even though I believe Leo actually is really close in skill and output to him)

Sorry bruh, you got too deep on the KoolAid

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why use overall stats..
you cant control the level of competition you are playing against.
is perc30fishfillet best player all time!?!
no.
the best way to compare players is comparing their performances against similar opponents/the same tournament

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Brimstan

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leo mainly played in emea reigionally while shao played on international stages with teir 1 opponents, can't compare.

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There is no way u went to overall stats and compared the two. Leo played against much worse competition for the better part of his career and is only now starting to make it big internationally, Shao has been here for a while so obviously his stats aren't going to be as good as someone who farmed t2 in a t2 team like guild.

Same goes for alfa

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nutab1e

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no it actually makes perfect sense to include surreal, bonk and forze stats to who is the better player at the current moment. gargoyle

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joellogic

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he's been on Emea tier one for almost two years.
what a hell are you babling about dude?

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4rrowlol

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him individually? sure. His team? no.

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lol they both have bigger ACS's with many less games

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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2s9g1G4hjU4

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Leo is the best emea initiator and he's also got a lot more potential than shao. He can also play sova, fade and breach really well and I would not be surprised if he was good on kayo too.

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Valgod

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Leo > shao i might agree with, but for saying alfajer > suygetsu you deserve to get banned

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soraol

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shao>leo

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ValdemieGC

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gigachads admire both

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joellogic

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yeah thats more like it.
I was kinda tira of wathing all these threads dunkin on Leo.
thats why I made this one. to make a new case.

Anyway, both are fantastic S tier players