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Marshal_D_Teach

I saw Noyn and his followers (I know...) calling him overrated bcz he was placed 2nd in plat chat (I know...) individual rankings in this Lock-In
https://twitter.com/Noynvlr/status/1620882659990769678

But look at his stats in Denmark and Turkey
Champions turkey: 1st in ADR, 2nd in KPR, 2nd in KD, 3rd in ACS, 5th in Rating, 6th in HS% and 10th in First Kills
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1015/valorant-champions-2022

Masters Copenhagen: Not as good as in Champions, but 1st in first kills
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1014/valorant-champions-tour-stage-2-masters-copenhagen

Why people still calling this guy overrated?

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Why people still calling this guy overrated?

bc hes overrated

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horse69

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just like all members of C9 except yay

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You can drop the except yay part now

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jamppi owns that fraud

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https://www.vlr.gg/130687/team-liquid-vs-fnatic-valorant-champions-2022-lr1/?game=all&tab=performance
nah

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jamppi XDD

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oof

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Marshal_D_Teach

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Btw he lied about qck stomping him
https://www.vlr.gg/130635/furia-vs-fnatic-valorant-champions-2022-group-stage-elim-d/?game=all&tab=performance

qck killed him 7 times against 9 deaths

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omg derke FARMED the bot called jampi

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derke is not overrated

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compare any of those to yay
yay isnt even in the top 10
when derke is 2nd
thats why

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orqn

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bro how can yay be top 10 when they expect C9 to go out against PRX or DRX

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they arent sure about fnc vs sen too
but they put 2 fnc players in the top 5
and the best player whole of the open circuit isnt even top 10
when realistically chamber nerf is gonna affect them both
its literally just going of the redbull homeground which is dumb asf

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I agree they really shouldn't do yay like that, but 2 wrongs don't make a right. I think Derke as 2nd (maybe 3rd coz cryo) and yay as 4th is fair.

As Jett: Derke is slightly better than Yay (btw, YaY didn't play Jett more than 3 times since the Chamber meta started)
As Chamber: Yay is by far the best player who ever touched the game
As Raze: YaY never touched the agent

I think Yay loses ALOT without his chamber, but lets see. Btw, DRX is favorite to win C9 and Fnatic is favorite to win SEN.

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fair enough

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orqn

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Derke can play Jett and Raze. Yay never played Raze before. Who does the nerf effect more?

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They put bang(literally who?) above nats

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he isn't overrated, more like underrated by some

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I feel like he’s pretty fairly rated right now. And the only reason I say that is because it feels like he’s always just shy of being the best which makes it easy to overrate or underrate him. It’s just interesting because it feels like FNC has always had the tools to win and never do. It’d be interesting to see him with the likes of a squad like old FPX/current NAVI

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Bronzil brain

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alitmanus

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this guy hates brazil so much I guess some chad brazilian fucked his girl

that's why he's mad

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Marshal_D_Teach

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4sure ronaldinho gaucho was in a rolê aleatório and stole his girl's coochie

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SigmaMale

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Chad brazilian is an oxymoron

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jawn

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because he has never won, there is no reason to rank him above other duelists that play winning valorant

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Marshal_D_Teach

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So Cryo and mako should not be in top 10?

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jawn

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cryo shouldn't, mako should

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But mako has never won anything (i'm using your logic)

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he has been more succesful and clutch in half the time, derke has been touted as a top player for 2 years but would constantly dissapoint just like cned before he won his trophy, we can only hype players for so long, they have to back it up

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Look at his stats in champions. He is cracked, but it's impossible to win everything alone. YaY couldn't win against LOUD alone in Champions.
The ranking is about individual power in that tournament, considering who they gonna play against. look at #15

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then why isn't yay higher up, he has put up tenz iceland numbers twice and has won a trophy

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Look at #15

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jawn

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nv yay in berlin is all i gotta say about that, derke is not a better jett

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People tend to think Derke is overrated just because FNC have the Bad Reputation of choking on important matches, but on individual performance Derke is a beast

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Derke

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People are actually making arguments in a whole community because of some list made by a couple of casters, scrolling through the video and not listening to a single word they say. They make assumptions based on nerfs and meta + who are they playing against. Anyone would realistically put yay above me and a lot of other players, am I wrong? Anyways shoutout to babysasuke for being the main clown of this website

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ily derke

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alitmanus

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cucksasuke didnt even post here bro

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Based

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yep.
the list is being spread around without any context.
idk why people take platchat list and takes so seriously.
like the show is really entertaining it doesnt need to be this thing that gets micro analysed over every point

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I like them when they aren't biased hyping NA teams for no reason and undervalue another region teams.
That Bren guy always says some weak team will win by a lucky shot against strong non-NA teams.

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shoutout to babysasuke for being the main clown of this website

W

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Derkelicious

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Chora não, bagre! Peidou na hora do vamo vê, nunca ganhou um camp internacional pq sempre chocam. Vc e seu time são superestimados mais que qualquer coisa nesse jogo, nunca ganharam nada e nem vão, PQ SÃO BAGRES.
A crítica maior é de colocarem um Bagre igual vc acima de player com muito mais resultado. Devia se preocupar mais com o tiktoker do seu time q paga de IGL e faz eco no OT, doq ficar rebatendo comentários de espectadores q machucaram seu ego inflado.
Tenho inglês fluente já faz 10 anos, mas tô escrevendo em pt mesmo, gringo metido aqui não!

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Dont worry lilbro all brazil teams are going home in round of 32 😂including brazils last hope Sentinels

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printed

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Is bagre a kind of slang or smth?

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bagel

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it's a slang for this fish: https://imgur.com/a/88AnwZn

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Bagre = Catfish = It's a euphemism for bad player

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thx for info

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Tá certinho, man kkkkk

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holy gigachadge

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LMFAOOOOOOOOO ur overrated asf keep coping

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Amazing comeback. How will he recover from that😱

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idk anything about what you said but thanks for the shoutout 👍

Def try to beat SEN tho, I've been drafting up some bangers if you go out winless ❤️

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those bangers gonna have to wait

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Lmao aged like milk. Cope shitty

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Além de superestimado, tem psicológico de novato

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Proving em wrong rn 🗿

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Congratulations!
my goat Derke<3

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🐐

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Brazillians malding 😂 Derke is GOAT lmao people are litreally saying some tier2 furia players are better than derke seems like they are living in there own world and OP is appreciatig people who are calling derke overrated L behaviour

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Derke owns NA

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He doesn’t own shit, cryo exposed his fraud ass

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Derke literally had higher acs when they faced each other lmao

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https://www.vlr.gg/167375/100-thieves-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-omega-sf
STAY DELUSIONAL NA FANS

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So where you at Revlo? How did Cryo expose Derke exactly?

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Yay clears Derke, L plat shi*t

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Yay fucking one trick, his bullets cant even go straight not playing Chamber

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is stats on jett and sage are literally higher than on chamber, stfu you low IQ brainlet

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Who clears derke?

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derke own asspas

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rare trembo W

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It took derke nearly 3 years to accomplish nothing and get hyped by some content creators on a podcast.
Took aspas one year to win champions. Common trembolona L

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individual performance has nothing to do with team achievements

btw, aspas was LOUD worst rated player in Champions, pretty bad for a duelist role, isnt it?

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Pretty bad only if you are a moron and if you watched the entire tournament with your eyes closed and your ears glued to your ass. The entire team was on fire, someone on the team had to have the "worst" stats on the team. Loud owned every team in that tournament.

I'm sure aspas is crying right now because the biggest joke in this website is talking about him having the worst stats in his own team. He would much rather be yay, who has amazing stats yet still got destroyed by him every map.

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He didn't watch the Breeze map in the finals. I wasn't aspas carrying and doing impossible things, was a clone of mwzera for sure.

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Aspas didn't have the worst stats
he had the second highest ACS, just after Less

his rating is low because he's the duelist, so he dies first
Rate shit ass system counts with how much you survive

let's rememebr rate system is only used on this shit forum

he and less were the only players who mvped in two series as well

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2nd is high. Maybe 5 but I could see him falling into the top 10

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Aspas and Derke made top 2 probably because they are the 2 players who can play Jett and Raze at the highest level. Players like tenz might be a little bit better at jett than someone like Derke but when it comes to raze he isn't the same. I think thats why they're so high because this meta is really good for them.

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carai viado... tu saiu no smoke mid KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

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eu vi kkkkkkkkkkkk

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Derke is really good, fnatic is usually just overhyped and never perform is the main issue. Not the mention the fans are pretty awful lmao

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I won't give my opinion but we will find out in a couple of weeks won't we? Whether derke is overrated or not. If he can diff tenz and sentinels, then he will not be overrated.

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It's impossible to judge any team from the lock in just saying. Single elimination is never fair. Lock in is almost like a show match tournament

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noyn hates derke

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Essa comunidade do Noyn é muito acéfala

Fala mal do cara que carrega o b0tster na FNC mas pagam pau pros GTNs, Jonns e outras mulas que só envergonham o país em camp lá fora.

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Mano, claramente o Noyn ta só querendo ganhar um engajamento em cima dos "defensores de Fallen" da vida, que não importa o quão mal um BR jogue, eles sempre serão superiores aos europeus e americanos kkkkkk

o próprio Noyn sabe que o Derke é simplesmente top 3 duelistas do EU, o cara vivia falando que ele carregava a FNATIC (que É SIM pipoca demais), mas ele é o único que se mantém sempre em alto nível e não pipoca... e não digo nem por ACS, pq duelista é easy demais de pegar ACS alto, mas sim por todas as outras estatísticas, onde ele sempre aparece em top 5 em pelo menos 6 stats entre 80 jogadores

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Mas ai que tá a questão, se ele acha o Derke bom mas faz isso por engajamento e alimenta essa comunidade horrenda... Então ele é mais desprezível do que quer pagar de good guy.
Imagina ficar forçando drama e dando pilha num bando de acéfalo só pra gerar view em tweet, intankável

Esse fato só reforça minha teoria de que o Noyn é o MELÃO.

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KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK pior que a teoria faz sentido mesmo

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e levando em conta o ego dele, faz todo sentido já que em TRANSMISSÃO OFICIAL ele cita o Noyn e fala muito no nome dele, isso é tudo pra alimentar o ego de dizer o nome da segunda personalidade dele em rede nacional

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krl transcendeu

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Fnatic's inability to win the big one even though they dominate domestically continue to overshadow the players individual abilities. I don't know if derke is the second best player in the tourney, there's so many good players to choose from, but he's absolutely top 5.

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fr... agree about everything u said

for me, the Top 5 duelists in LOCK//IN are:

1 - yay
2 - aspas
3 - zekken
4 - Derke
5 - cryo

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Zekken above derke?
dementia

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aren't you 35? pretty sure ur the most likely to have dementia here

+derke sucks ass

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Derke neon and raze suck

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Derke and Yay are basically the same in my mind. They are pure aimers. It's hard with guys like them since when they're doing well, they just win every gunfight, but when they play bad its more noticeable than any other player doing poorly. It's really hard to transfer out of the chamber meta and expect Yay and Derke to do the same thing, because they are now on a new or modified role. Between a second-contact player and a pure entry, we shouldn't expect the same production out of them from the Chamber Meta. Now, a bad game from Derke or Yay will mean less than before, since they are not on a role meant to drop 25+ every map. It's a lot more team-oriented success to have them succeed while being an entry or supporting the entry. For that reason, Derke and Yay are not over or underrated for the next while since they are just put into a whole new position. Either way, what does it matter, we're heading back into a meta that compliments more of the guys who succeeded in 2021 rather than the guys who carried in 2022. This is the meta where Aspas is consistently called best in the world, and Tenz returns to around his former level.

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L, Derke is way superior + knows how to entry and play other agents than chamber

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Post n°100 xd

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We here.

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Where is Noyn now?

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What about now

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@noyn talk more shit brother

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Noyn braindead

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Noyn is braindead

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KEKW

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Noyn where are you???

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LOUD FLAIR LUL

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LOL do you know how to read?

Is Derke really overrated?

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