Cresp [#4]No way this is their final list. Wtf is up with lev Being over guild.
guild have more to prove now all good.
YvngKurry [#2]Guild being put that low has to be a crime. Sure they didnt perform well in pacement games but theyre still better than 10th.
Well this ranking is more about them beating both Optic or Loud to make it through groups. How can they be higher placed when they may have not a chance to make it further than 9-10th in the event? They are also a team with low LAN experience so it's pretty difficult to make a case where they go deeper in the tournament.
Top 6 (7th if you include fpx) are all reasonable in my opinion, but northeption and under is super muddy, i think xerxia levi and guild are all in similar rankings. Xerxia is a solid team with extensive lan experience, and guild has some s tier players, who, if they turn up at lan, could do some serious damage. Leviatan is untested but their coach onur isn't. If onur, who led kru to a top 4 finish can whip the team into shape they could do some damage. Northeption is a coinflip based on how meteor and derialy play, overall good list.
FlyingDoggoWoweeClap2 [#10]XIA BEING THAT LOW IS SO DISRESPECTFUL
they are atleast 7th
If XIA wins NTH, they would be 7th. If XIA loses to NTH, they would be 9th. Since one of them will not be able to make it to the playoffs (top 8), it's 50/50 and I think it's pretty fair I would say.
Cresp [#4]No way this is their final list. Wtf is up with lev Being over guild.
I mean seeing that Guild probably won’t make it out of groups and leviatan is already in playoffs….
C310 [#8]Well this ranking is more about them beating both Optic or Loud to make it through groups. How can they be higher placed when they may have not a chance to make it further than 9-10th in the event? They are also a team with low LAN experience so it's pretty difficult to make a case where they go deeper in the tournament.
this list was not about predicting the placement of each team. It's a power ranking, they ordered the teams based on how good they are.
sentinelmain377 [#21]fixed power rankings: FNC = OPT = LOUD > FPX w/o SUBS > PRX > XERXIA > DRX > XSET = FPX w/ 1 sub > LEVI > KRU > NTH > GLD > FPX w/ 2 subs
XIA over DRX is copium
Daniveus [#18]this list was not about predicting the placement of each team. It's a power ranking, they ordered the teams based on how good they are.
Yes, but actually no. This placement was very reliant on Guild not beating Optic and Loud, that was what they said in the stream. It's a bit of both, because genuinely you would not put Lev that high if they weren't already confirmed to get 7-8th placements at least.
NG1nS [#25]guild is gonna come for u guys remember this LMAO actually chose the wrong team to put as underdog
idk why everyone is underrating Guild.
Guild is underrated. I get where they are coming from with groups situation, but still if you base it on power. People are focusing too much on the seeding games. Guild literally had just qualified to their org's and 4 of their players' first LAN event after trying for long time and always being so close. They didn't have anything to prove going into seeding games. They pretty much won already no matter the seed going into Masters. FPX had to prove that they truly are the number 1 team in EMEA after stage 1, and Fnatic obviously wanted to prove that they are the best team in EMEA after going undefeated in groups and overall being in the scene for long time. This is what even Sliggy said about Guild's seeding games performance. And yes it might be the basic "seeding game" excuse, but I truly think they didn't go full in.
And I also understand that these are the best teams from all regions, so EMEA #3 being high up wouldn't make sense, but who out of these teams would place top 2 in EMEA over Fnatic and FPX? Because I wouldn't be too sure about teams like Northeption, Leviatan, Xerxia or KRU and arguably even teams like DRX, PRX, XSET are in ? area aka I think that FPX could win over them.
Sprouts [#23]XIA over DRX is copium
look who xia lost to
optic (m1 winners) also xia beat them earlier in the group
liquid (close game) and liquid lost to loud (liquid had more rounds throughout the series against loud) and zeta (honeymoon)
sentinelmain377 [#31]look who xia lost to
optic (m1 winners) also xia beat them earlier in the group
liquid (close game) and liquid lost to loud (liquid had more rounds throughout the series against loud) and zeta (honeymoon)
then i could argue that drx>prx>xerxia? this logic is so dumb lol
C310 [#26]Yes, but actually no. This placement was very reliant on Guild not beating Optic and Loud, that was what they said in the stream. It's a bit of both, because genuinely you would not put Lev that high if they weren't already confirmed to get 7-8th placements at least.
they beat them now
M0K1 [#39]they beat them now
I know, I have it in my pickems https://www.vlr.gg/pickem/0ebe8ea0
I just explained what Platch Chat probably thought nothing more there
C310 [#8]Well this ranking is more about them beating both Optic or Loud to make it through groups. How can they be higher placed when they may have not a chance to make it further than 9-10th in the event? They are also a team with low LAN experience so it's pretty difficult to make a case where they go deeper in the tournament.
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Vortexy [#44]👀
Just because the ranking was wrong doesn't mean what I said was wrong, that's how Platchat thought it would go out they went for the more realistic placements instead of the actual power of the teams in the ranking they did. I literally predicted both Loud and Optic to lose in those first matches
C310 [#49]Just because the ranking was wrong doesn't mean what I said was wrong, that's how Platchat thought it would go out they went for the more realistic placements instead of the actual power of the teams in the ranking they did. I literally predicted both Loud and Optic to lose in those first matches
a power ranking is a power ranking, not their likelihood of advancing based off their placement in various groups (refer to what the Portuguese guy said above)
and newsflash, that power ranking is awful
Vortexy [#50]a power ranking is a power ranking, not their likelihood of advancing based off their placement in various groups (refer to what the Portuguese guy said above)
and newsflash, that power ranking is awful
newsflash I never said the powerrankings were good, I just fucking explained their probable thought-process they had for this ranking. I swear people in VLR can't read for some reason
C310 [#51]newsflash I never said the powerrankings were good, I just fucking explained their probable thought-process they had for this ranking. I swear people in VLR can't read for some reason
that wasn't their probable thought process though, a power ranking is literally a rank of the teams and how good they think they are, not their possibilities and chances of advancing through groups. I swear some people just can't read
Vortexy [#52]that wasn't their probable thought process though, a power ranking is literally a rank of the teams and how good they think they are, not their possibilities and chances of advancing through groups. I swear some people just can't read
Did you even watch the stream? Because I swear to God you didn't do it, they literally said it dude that they placed Guild that low because they didn't believe they would beat Optic or Loud. My fucking point is them saying it, the power ranking title is confusing because they actually don't rank it like you said they did.
C310 [#54]Did you even watch the stream? Because I swear to God you didn't do it, they literally said it dude that they placed Guild that low because they didn't believe they would beat Optic or Loud. My fucking point is them saying it, the power ranking title is confusing because they actually don't rank it like you said they did.
kekw "power ranking"
C310 [#8]Well this ranking is more about them beating both Optic or Loud to make it through groups. How can they be higher placed when they may have not a chance to make it further than 9-10th in the event? They are also a team with low LAN experience so it's pretty difficult to make a case where they go deeper in the tournament.
HAHAHAHAHAH u ate these words crazy how both loud and optic lost
Nips [#56]HAHAHAHAHAH u ate these words crazy how both loud and optic lost
https://www.vlr.gg/pickem/0ebe8ea0
Nah my preds are doing ok, I am pretty happy with how the matches went actually.
Vortexy [#50]a power ranking is a power ranking, not their likelihood of advancing based off their placement in various groups (refer to what the Portuguese guy said above)
and newsflash, that power ranking is awful
plat chat uses the word power ranking in the complete incorrect way just so you know, this list was basically a list of where they thought the teams would finish and not actually who was the best
V0sotros [#58]plat chat uses the word power ranking in the complete incorrect way just so you know, this list was basically a list of where they thought the teams would finish and not actually who was the best
that's still a pretty L list ngl
at least as of now
Vortexy [#59]that's still a pretty L list ngl
at least as of now
well of course with hindsight you can say it was a bad list, but I don't think many people would have taken KRU over LOUD with how hot LOUD was in BR playoffs and how flat KRU looked against LEV, and taking Optic over Guild was kinda seen as common logic considering Optic are the defending masters champs and Guild got 0-2'd by FNATIC and then 0-3'd by FPX
V0sotros [#60]well of course with hindsight you can say it was a bad list, but I don't think many people would have taken KRU over LOUD with how hot LOUD was in BR playoffs and how flat KRU looked against LEV, and taking Optic over Guild was kinda seen as common logic considering Optic are the defending masters champs and Guild got 0-2'd by FNATIC and then 0-3'd by FPX
tbh not at all, we know how close all the regions were as proven by the last Lan event. I saw a solid chance of Kru beating Loud even tho I still gave Loud the slight edge in my pickems (they did poorly last lan but improved a lot in their domestic matches since and looked better than almost all br teams imo). I also predicted Guild beating Optic which proved to be correct.