Nah I always root for the underdog team in league doesn't matter which. I only have drx flair here cause it was the first val team I watched + mako is the goat.
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Nah I always root for the underdog team in league doesn't matter which. I only have drx flair here cause it was the first val team I watched + mako is the goat.
Also nah I don't count early tourney like 2021 sen when whole regions are omitted from the tournament. I see korea with the most winners and full 5 stack koreans too not the best from other countries mixed together into american teams. 2nd most player base lmao. Does brazil with 94% of player base as korea have 15 winners too? or germany with 85%? But whatever, you think they're not overperforming, I think they are overperforming. Agree to disagree.
Yes population is to some degree but my argument is still valid. In this case I believe it matters noticeably enough. Korea as a singular nation with pros retiring early all the time for military is most definitely overperforming in valorant despite no specific passion diff compared to many major regions.
Tf u even saying you went from culture matters a ton to passion doesn't matter if no ecosystem as if americans or brazilians or europeans or japanese are crippled third world regions that don't have access to pc's or internet. Also nah I just edited out the americans might have more winners part but that can be attributed to population since I went and counted and in fact korea is the nation with most winners, I still stand by my point.
This is one nation we're talking about, versus entire regions. When an NA or EU team wins it's often a mix of american canadian brazilian, or western european/russian players, the very best of each country. Korean teams are just 5 koreans with korean coaches.
Putting aside your factual fallacies, yeah culture matters. However your comparisons are pointless. You're acting like Korea is by far and away the most passionate valorant nation in the world. Europe is far more passionate, Japan most definitely is far more as well, Brazil is just as passionate, US is more too, etc. We're not comparing american football or basketball in the us vs korea since barely anyone cares for it there. We're comparing valorant which many places around the world care for more than Korea (who again has a minuscule young population relatively with pros who can't even stay for as long cause of military).
Kinda does matter. And no kr player base isn't bigger. This one source for 2025 shows that it's in fact almost double.
https://icon-era.com/blog/valorant-live-player-count-and-statistics.98/#:~:text=Table_title:%20Valorant%20Server%20Status%20by%20Region%E2%80%8B%20Table_content:,Status:%20Online%20%7C%20Players%20Online:%2079%2C365%20%7C
You also have to understand that it's a country with such a small youth population where all men have to do mandatory military service and we see pros leaving all the time for service.
def not as dominant for sure yeah but still not bad at all
pretty sure they have the most trophies of any nationality
why getting downvoted for facts lmao
Korean's aren't really good at raw mechanical shooting games like CS. They just practice a lot so they excel at games that require a lot of coordination and teamwork such as league. Valorant and Overwatch are more like that which are util and coordination heavy, hence being really the only two shooting games that they are good at.
Same. Always sad seeing a team go crashing out like that. After losing map 1, and that horrible start on map 2, everyone felt the series was over before the first half of split even ended, seeing as abyss, the prx permaban, was map 3. Still a good run though they beat nrg pretty convincingly in rematch ns just too good.
True Sen didn't drop a map then, very early on and not every region was there but fairs. Final was a really close 16-14, 14-12, 13-11 tho. Forgot about fnc they're a valid shout too, but imo eye test wise this looked most dominant along with gambit I think.
He's won shanghai
edit: nvm u were just reminding to add him to the list
Nah it's NS being great lowkey
That’s just 2 competitive runs and their best with still a pacific import. The whole region has completely crumbled every other time. Look no further than this tournament. The problem is that an even weaker 3rd seed Chinese team will stand no chance and is a waste of a slot. Imagine if Rrq had made it instead or smth who lost 3-2 to ns.
This guy has 10 alt accounts. Also yeah beyond me how this guy is trying to brainwash me into thinking China is remotely close to being competitive as any of the other regions.
Yeah riot owned by tencent ik. Either way my point stands. A random team going 0-4 on 4 uncompetitive maps is not going to crash the Chinese scene. As far as I’m concerned, if Rrq had made it instead it would have been more beneficial to riot. Also you were the one mentioning bad business so I brought you and corrected your false argument on money.
A random third or fourth seed chinese team that was gonna bomb out 0-2 anyways isn't gonna plummet viewership. Also where did you get this source that league has a more successful esport league than val? Viewership sure. Money no. I'm seeing plenty of articles online that shows League esports running at heavy deficits while Valorant is extremely profitable with higher profits for both riot and the participating teams. Over 100 million usd was was distributed to participating teams in vct for last year 2025 while everyone knows league esports has always struggled with profitability and often run heavy deficits in fact.
Imagine trying to take 1 fluke run with a pacific import lets not forget to justify anything. If china was playing in 2021 they would have been by far the lowest average placement.
Nice lies btw. This guy really trying to brainwash me into thinking chinese teams have ever come close in competitiveness to any other region lmao.
Imagine trying to contest such a fair argument that most would agree with, that china should not have the same amount of slots as pacific. Crazy stuff.
Neither unlike you. Just look at this tournament alone. I assume they simply didn't have enough time to prep lol.
Top 5 abwhahahaha, no you're wrong. Tied for 5/6th. Most definitely not top 5. Even TL who placed tied 5/6th beat then in head to head. And lets ignore literally every single other tournament as well.
Again, what are these excuses? Chinese teams had more than enough time even for 2022 champs.
No “real league” till 2023 what are these excuses
Yeah that's almost 5 years am I missing something? And even my grandma knows that one run with still an apac import was the single most fluke run in val history. They got absolutely slaughtered every international before that fluke, and then went back to their ways after once again as we can see rn.
Meh 5 years of bombing out feels enough to justify for me. Also I only mentioned league to refute the guy's point about bad business when clearly the alternative has been very successful.
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