twistzzz is a clown

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factsonly

https://twitter.com/dust2us/status/1526692070299119616?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1526692070299119616%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hltv.org%2Fforums%2Fthreads%2F2628414%2Ftwistzz-lmaoo

jealous of someone's success?

before you guys say he isn't wrong

tier 2/3 cs had no opputirunes so guess what im so grateful valorant came out for these guys why he can't be happy for those players too?

AND THESE VALORANT PLAYERS WORKING HARD ASF GRINDING 8-12 HOUR A DAY ITS NOT FREE MONEY

they deserve the success quit crying csgo pros/frogs

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Spittin straight facts with this one

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Rare factsonly W

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jawn

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he really thought he did something

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he won cologne, grand slam, pro league, katowice and many more..

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ok?

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lol

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hello, cologne is something men use to smell good. A grand slam is something you do in baseball. He's a cs player, how can win in professional league of legends? Katowice is a city lol, how'd he win that

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huge W

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ha?

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NA iq on display.

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Revlo

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EU humor can't detect a joke. dumb bot.

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true

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and major

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Name checks out

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he's so entitled and dint think about others people situation

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Says the guy who left NA CS lol

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I mean his gf is german and liquid had internal problems, as NA cs player you spend more than 50% of the year in Europe why not just move there if you are good enough?

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factsonly

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also idc what anyone says but it hard to stay on top in valorant compare to csgo

meta change almost every week and these teams are Prac 12h a day

eg com even said they practice 12hour a day and even stay at night sometimes vod reviewing

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I think Twistzz knows he would have a harder time staying on top due to the constantly changing meta and just doesn’t have the energy, so he somehow calls valorant lazy and easy

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bro chill if udk shit bout twistzz one of the most hard working cs player of all time lol

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Facts.

Twistzz isn't wrong that some people moved for easy money (at least in the beginning), but there are many other reasons why it made sense outside of that. Some people actually like Valorant more than csgo. Hell, even having a fresh take on a game that changes helps your mental state.

As a side note, I think the quote is taken out of context. Hell, there is no context and they just list the quote. I went to the article and it's not even there, it's only the headline.

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jawn

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he basically said "just get better", in what context is that not ignorant asf

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because we don't see the question asked, and the quote doesn't have to be his full statement. We can all admit that plenty of csgo players moved to Valorant for money, but Twistzz full statement could've been, "We saw so many new players move to VALORANT because they just wanted the easy money, and I can't blame them for it". Context means a lot.

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His full response is actually in the article, the question was:

"So you’re more experienced, you’re an older NA player that the region can look up to. Obviously, the region has been pretty decimated with VALORANT players and other things happening to the region. What are your thoughts on the current NA region?"

And his response was:

"This will come as no surprise that I am saying this, but I have to say that the current region is abysmal. I mean, we saw so many new players moving to VALORANT because they just want the easy money. They see a new game and they see everyone is trying to get into it and it's easy money. I think the switch is for the money and the work ethic wasn’t there in CS to become better."

He seems to think that the people that switched don't have good work ethic and maybe that's true for some players but saying generally "the switch is for the money" is a little odd

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it's on the article its somewhere in the middle I saw

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Then you have people like Jampii or Steel who cant compete in cs anymore (i know they kind of can but you get what i mean) so they chose to change and try to get to the top in another game

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thats what nitr0 said as well new agent is coming we have to learn whole game again its too much

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spookmeister

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rare factsonly W?
honestly though, i find it hard to respect him after that, wtf

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He should really worry about how FaZe to not choke at major instead of doing pointless interviews like this

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damn I really wanted Kerrigan to get a major but seeing them lose now would kinda put a smile on my face

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very uncommon factsonly W

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Holy moly what an ironic take and tone deaf take. As much as I hate to say it the NA cs scene is DEAD. No orgs are investing into the region so what are those players supposed to do? They can’t move to EU like SOME PLAYERS. Players need to move on to make money. This is the equivalent of bill gates saying money isnt everything lol.

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Its funny that top teams in VAL NA have very good work ethic, most teams scim/prac like 10+ h/day. I don't have much insights about NA CS work ethics before

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One issue that still seems to be true is that NA teams are less serious.
In CS and in Val, teams say that there is a real scrim diff between NA and EU where EU teams play seriously to try to get good practice and NA teams play and than start trolling halfway through cause they lost the scrim or got bored etc.

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idrk i havent heard anything about the throwing in scrims (in val) bit in ages, hopefully thats ended, esp since we have teams like 100t optic tgrd etc who are fuckin practicing hard.

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who

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god aimer
he makes every1 sit the fuck down

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rare W
name checks out

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literally delusional from him, so many players and teams go through hours of just prepping and practicing
that's why i'll never understand why some csgo players have hate boners for the valorant community

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cs players are the most elitist gaming community i've seen on the internet tbh so it's no surprise

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dazzle comments:
https://twitter.com/dazzLeGO/status/1526732713797066756

lol

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says the guy that left NA bcs it was too difficult to win with NA team

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from what i see, tier 2 valorant team actually making more money & living than tier 2 CS pro scene
so, it's better be tier 2 in valorant than tier 2 in CS

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Oh no this guy doesn’t know about CS salaries lol

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other region like SEA, JP, and (NA maybe) i meant
not EU or BR

valorant is bigger than CS in other region

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Twistzz be like
yes, lets not blame TOs and orgs fr destroying NA CS, but the NA Pros didnt have passion KEK
yes, 16 yo Asuna mada leaf etc should all just move to another continent away from families like me else they are lazy and no passion KEK
yes, if u play cs once in mdl, u cant try or like any other game KEK

Twistz is an amazing FPS player, but a cringe ass person for sure

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id say that the death of NA cs is more of the fault of the top NA teams than the tier 2/3 players that left for val, its not their fault that top NA teams would rather recycle washed players than give new talent a shot

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look at the EG CSGO roster lmfao, the "passionate" players that stayed in csgo and didnt "sell-out" for valorant are the players that literally killed the scene

EG: hm.... what should we do in our rebuild? pick up floppy? nope. pick up clasia? nope. pick up fang? nope. stick with brehze and cerq and pickup stewie + 2 players who havent played pro csgo in a year? sounds great to me!

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washed NA pros getting mad that he called them out,in a few months they will all be out of a job and will move onto the next game

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-100 respect for twitstzz

NA ex cs pros have found a new way of life instead make a gamble on dead scene but this guy didnt respect their effort like saying its easy to compete without having support financially + future

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you're the only clown here

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L Take by Twistzz but shit i love his hair dude.

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TBH, I expected worse when I clicked that. We should honestly focus on shaming the website for choosing that quote when the article was about their journey at this Major. They clearly wanted to bait, I'm pretty mad about that.

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He is probably still salty that nitr0 abandoned Liquid for Valorant because of Stewie and now Stewie is showing interest in Valorant so Twistzz just wanted to throw shade at him

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W take by twistz

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Lmao twistzz being jealous of vanity?
Twistzz is probably the best aimer coming out of NA in valorant and cs combined.

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factsonly says a fact :o

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lets be real twistzz is clear of everyone, if you disagree you clearly don't know who he is LOOOL

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This is literally the "pull yourself by your bootstrap" bullshit lol

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Calling tier 2 n 3 cs players having a poor work ethic like what? Good luck for him in the future when the org drop him out lol.

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literally its not like Cs gives tier 2/3 players many chances at tier 1 . The entire scene is built around recycling Tier 1 players .

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Recycling tier 1 players and having these thoughts of why t2,3 players switched to the new game lol.

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highly doubt the org will drop him but cool

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read the article pls

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Valorant is just a great game lol. Money you get it from jobs.

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I think its weird he says this but left NA because it was already gonna be a dead region. ppl sitting in Tier 2/3 na cs would basically never have a decent chance and not making any money its only logical to either move to valorant or leave NA. Twistz found success leaving Na good for him but to say that they don't try is weird lol

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Breh NA region died cause they left for val

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Twistzz hairstyle >>> whole Valulrant scene

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It's like when Kim Kardashian said people don't want to work hard nowadays LMAO

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wot?

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your interests in life are not allowed to change you must stay committed to one thing #SigmaGrindset #zyzz

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Well NA is lazy and if they can just stream and make money they don't care about winning so...

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W take by twistz

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Is he wrong tho? He isnt questioning the morals behind it afaik, its a fact its easy money, most got signed even before they downloaded the game

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rare W

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People in this thread clearly missed something, he didnt project those words to every cs immigrant. He prolly aims at some players (im guessing nitr0).

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coming from someone who left NA and went to EU.

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dk what IQ u have but NA died cause of t2/t3 players leaving for val and the whole scene died

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dk what IQ u have cuz u didn't get wut i meant

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esports is just business. players will always have the option to stay in a game that doesnt love their region or go to another game with good money.

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I mean he isn't completely wrong. That was 100% the reason why some CSGO pros switched to Valorant. Not the case with everyone, but some.

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turned into a bitch after leaving the grand slam TL roster

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Based Twistzz take.
Like look at BNE, an orgless team from Kosovo did as good if not better than NA in the major. So even if there's "no investment " in NA cs, if a group of good 5 NA players worked hard for it then they would certainly do well.
But I can also understand that from the player's perspective, they have a better chance to boost their careers in Valorant than in CS.
They might switch because they want free money (paycheck stealers + full-time streamers disguised as pro players) or because they genuinely love the game and want a fresh start.