yea but people cant accept that their daddies the optic core can be bad and might have fallen off without FNS at the helm IGLing, I mean look at yay, no one other than FNS has ever used his skills that efficiently even on ABX right before he moved to NV he wasnt that good

because of how bad they are in comparison to how good they were expected to be people are saying theyre saving strats. But when this is applied to ANY TEAM OTHER THAN NRG naaah thats hard cope

W pickem tho SEN winning the finals

ngl PRX are kinda washed even till now. PRX never really look good until the international tournaments most times

I feel like NRG would ban Split first, split is the reliable map for SEN. Also Lotus is really good for SEN so they wouldnt let it through. They might pick breeze cause so far thats SENs worst map

all regions followed this logic tho tbf its only a 12.5% chance its not that unlikely to happen 3 times in a row
EDIT: nvm FNC is the (2-0) in this situation. yea it is a 50-50 then

its a 50/50 bro why you so pressed?

i couldnt care less amount KC dawg, all i know is FNC is number 1 Navi is next up thats it

watch matches, not results
the g2 match meant literally nothing at the time, seeding wasnt even announced yet

same here brother

who is he even coaching this year dawg?

youve never seen any of his posts huh?

Idk maybe teams dont keep the same form all year??? Maybe thats why no team other than FNC has ever won back to back??? Maybe thats why EG went from trash to the top in 1 year???
Dumbasses galore on this website istg

where was BLG after shitting on NRG?

being mid isnt 21-3

oh yea i remember that time they won a nerfed tournament. Great memories
FNC M3C and FPX were bar none the best teams in the world at the time and if you genuinely think Loud and Optic wouldve still made finals againss them youre delusional. Even my king Fenis would agree

well no the real sen fans will cause were the ones that still have reserves of copium and hopium till this very day

out of all the things that could happen to sen in this kickoffs its just constantly horrible after horrible situations. Sen have become an even better team now facing the ridiculous calling of saadhak, the monstrous aim of caua less and somehow saadhak too, theyve faced the best jett player in the world and still managed to qualify for playins, and theyve now been forced to show everything apart from icebox and go against NRG.
This means that if Sen manage to beat NRG and subsequently Loud they will have a genuine chance at contending for the madrid title from being given the worst trials of anyone else in any of the regions' kickoffs. If we dont win against NRG then we wont have a chance to win madrid anyway, its better to sit still after that loss and recook instead of going into a tournament being forced to revamp all their strats and setplays for every map

no pacific was the one that started this format...
Thing is when you dont look at the teams its actually easier for sen to go against a team that played 2 matches already than a team that played 2 maps. In terms of format this is the easiest thing for sen, also they arent facing the team that have already beat them

because maybe Furia was good??? Also it was only on haven that was close cause the brazilians genuinely were cooking on that map

FNC didnt scrim at all before the event, that isnt valid. Also C9 looked way better during Redbull than they did against NRG. Against NRG was an absolute disasterclass any tier 2 team would beat them.
You say optic core will consistently be a top team but this sen team has beat prx drx lev, NRG have 0 evidence to back that they have anything on sen rn and the only reason its being discussed is because NRG has a huge advantage

ok and? Youre claiming based off of 0 evidence that NRG is a good team. Im claiming based on a ton of evidence that SEN are a better team. THe only cope here is all the NRG fans. Even FNS doesnst know how good they are hes just saying they should be great which he also said about Lev C9 G2 and 100T and look where they are

yea its really stupid the credit everyone is giving nrg considering nrg have shown literally nothing and they got fucked 23-4 or smth like that in a scrim against M80.
NRG isnt a superteam SEN have it in the bag
we havent seen ethans calling when the game is 11-11 and hes backed into a wall not knowing what to call with 0 timeouts left

exactly the fact that its constantly demon1 and ethan showing up in rounds just goes to show everyone else on that team cant do jack. Victor had 1 good map, crashies is still just aight not in his league form from last year, marved is here and there.

tf you on, chet is the one who underestimates others

W

I dont think itll matter tho, Sen are a very midround heavy team and they also dont rely too much on antistrating teams. Also ngl Louds firepower is way higher than every other Americas team rn so demon1 shouldnt be a problem

watch them own NRG bro, these guys went toe to toe with the real best team loud

Braindamaged

Usually when vlr disagrees with you you're right, this is truly the biggest anomaly post ever cause god fucking damn you are absolutely mentally challenged

No he isn't what the fuck psychedelics are you on bruh

Duelist ≠ top fraggers
Sacy is literally playing the most broken agent on this map that can cover both ends of the map through tp because of the ridiculous info from her util
Dumbasses always talkin retarded shit of who should and shouldn't top frag

LETS FUCKING GOOOOOIO

Now that I think about it you might be right but even so it's just such A hard mountain to climb, they've shown so many maps already and practically all their strats if playins arent the thing to finally do it

Nah Ethan and demon1 are good but everyone on Sen when they're doing good are just as good. On top of that Sen have way more protocols and their adaptation is better than what nrg have. The midround as well just goes to Sen all the way. Currently Sen are objectively from what we've seen the better team compared to NRG and EG, I was only worried about the anti

Well the fact that they're even playing breeze is already scary regardless of if they won. The only 2 maps they haven't played in the season is sunset and icebox

Every single team in the playoffs rn are HARD antistrat teams and Sen have revealed almost every map in their pool or hell maybe all now.
Loud would probably be the easiest to play against since they've already faced them but that's not possible.
Eg is nightmarish in terms of anti but Sen have better firepower, Sen has better teamplay and adaptation than NRG but the firepower is pretty much equal on an average day.
Prayge for a miracle 🙏

Mfs really said c9 were a good team lmfao 🤣 look at them now. They have oxy and that's it. Team of washed players, retirement 9

Yea but we also aren't saying mako is number 1 in the world, the comparison is relative and so it works

Yea but we also aren't saying mako is number 1 in the world, the comparison is relative and so it works

Such A dumb reason not to rate someone in a team game. No matter how good you are you just can't carry your whole team. Less can't do it, yay can't do it, aspas can't do it, and not can demon1 alfa or derke

The guy stinks he's a tier 2 player, zest didn't deserve this

THIS MF STINKS, why tf did they switch out a global top 20 player for this mid ass player who has never played flex in his life?????
I understand replacing RB cause they need more vocal people and they need to change up the team but zest for a player who has never produced results internationally makes 0 sense

This guy is on his comfort role and is still worse than yays worst ever performance on viper

Mistic has always been like this tho he has certain good rounds and A LOT of horrendous throw rounds that get even worse when he's pressured
Enzo is even worse tho I agree

Yes yes he is. Mistic was dropped from FNC for a reason

They really made a mistake picking up BOTH mistic and Enzo the two people that cost FNC champs 22
These guys were dropped for a reason, they make some fatal fatal mistakes which just give the game away.

I mean he didn't look like he was during that furia game. There's a decent chance he's fallen off a bit

This guy is actually so bad at the small things, he doesn't deserve t1 as much as I adored his clutches on fnc

Bros an FCY fan