does it really matter? What other word would you use to explain what that was

it was definitely victor and crashies, those 2 popped into my head the moment he said that, could be marved too.
But yea its crazy the mental games they thought they were playing only to get ROLLED

xeppa has shown he can be good, vanity has LITERALLY NOTHING achieved past 2021 V1 who arguably only qualified because their players were on an absolute heater and NRG and 100T were starting to fall off

Shahz

Its pretty likely, they wanna be part of franchise and they only left challengers cause of the ridiculous off season

the pee drinker back at it again

ok and?

Exactly it's stupid to say Sen losses two as an actual argument considering one of their losses was the reason they had to play more matches than anyone else AND it was against the best teams in Americas.
The second loss wasn't even important and they didn't even need to win or wanted it enough to try. If you genuinely wanna say G2 could consistently beat SEN you're claiming they're the best team in the league.
Sen has been the most consistent team map to map of all the teams in every single league (apart from edg but they're dominant in their region). To say they "had a bad game against G2" is such A dumb statement considering how much they've already proven themselves

Name me 15 better smokes players. Even him being on omen alone he's definitely in at least top 10 controllers. There aren't many good ones out there
Johnqt is at the very least top 5 igl itw, his calling is only slightly worse than FNS, he brought back a dead team to become a contender for an international title, and he even frags and consistently closes out rounds. What more could you ask for?

A lot of smokes players only play omen tho so it's still pretty valid to call him at the very least top 5 or 8 controllers cause I rlly wouldn't be able to name many others. Also omen players who aren't smokes mains are typically flex

Best in omen is good enough for me

There are 3 consistentlt top 3 smokes being marved mako pancada and currently tenz is playing even more consistent than the 3 of them other than arguably mako
He's definitely top 1 omen itw rn

A lot of controllers literally only play omen tho so it's still pretty valid
Or you could say one of the best flex

I'd say fs he's in the top 3 at least currently. Maybe even top 1 👀
He's almost as good as Fns at calling and is a Fragger AND beat saadhak? Bro he's a goat
Tenz probably best smokes it's at least that qualified for Madrid
Zekken isnt best entry but he's up there

Sen above loud for sure bro
SEN
Loud
PRX
TH
EDG
KC
GenG
FPX

I agree and don't agree. I don't think KC are anything special and that FNC were very obviously not playing up to their regular standards but that doesn't mean they aren't a great team.
I think overall I could not put them anything above 4th especially cause I still feel like TH is the better team who just had a bad game in the finals AND that Loud and SEN are just on a different kind of heater

Bait used to be believable

He had 1 map and was not able to replicate it. If he was so good then having people like jaampi and nats on his team shouldve sent them to playins easy

Nah I genuinely don't think these guys have the igling power to run anything but defaults. I mean they had a full week to prep and anti for Sen and yet somehow they came to split with NOTHING to show for all that time.
It's either a chet or Ethan disaster class but either way it's seeming really consistent with Chet's coaching

It seems to me like youre the only one in this entire thread that's forgot about the match. Don't worry, we'll keep this post alive until you grow the balls to actually check it out

Bro trolling on vlr is one thing but this is too far bro, you're actually embarrassing yourself at this point.
I kinda feel bad for you not gonna lie 😕

Do you know the difference between opinions and fact??

I love how all of you are so quiet after the stomping that we witnessed

BRO DID NOT COOK 🤣🤣🤣
THIS IS HILARIOUS BAIT OR NO BAIT, IM GLAD HAPPINESS DECIDED TO BECOME ANOTHER BRAINDEAD VLR BAITER

Bro cooked

Fs man, keep coping

The team could be just as good with pancada especially given the same amount of time as zellsis was given. Sen just wanted fast results and I feel zellsis brings reliability/consistency from the team which at this point is the thing Sen want the most as a team.
It's an understandable move but it's sad and pancada has the skill to also make this team work. Johnqt was the person they were missing

Their elimination match and it still looks like they're saving strats
Makes it seem like y'all were coping so hard because expectations weren't fitting with reality

Bro looks dumb as shit rn 🤣

WE GOT THE HARDEST RUN BUT IT DONT MATTER
Y'all NRG guys got some hella copium bro it's some crazy shit, even as a Sen fan I've never seen that level of shit

TWO LONG ASS FUCKING YEARS AND ITS FINALLY HAPPENING
VIVA LA SEN ITS REGIONALS THEN MADRID NEXT

Fr mfs blinded with their hate boner

Bros overrated themselves, without fns these guys only know how to default

Sure man

THESE NRG MFERS GOT NOTHING BRO, THEYRE DEFAULT DANIELS BRO
SENWIN
W PICKEMS BABEY

You can tell now that Mini was the real MVP for FNC all along

i mean half these posts are brainrot anyway, why tf should any pro who makes over 10k a month care about these mcdonald worker opinions?

he wouldnt care??? Mf is engaged to her, why would you be depressed over your gf/fiance having previous interests?? Vlr is truly filled with neckbeards its crazy

well thats the enitre point of this post so idk why youre here if thats not what youre expecting

bro said "we"
U aint on the team lil bro

if NRG ban split they ban the map they have the most material to anti with. You people are really making it seem like SEN doesnt have the firepower to just roll NRG.
Unless NRG are MASSIVELY better than Loud, theres a huge chance SEN will take this game

not knowing an opponents retake setup doesnt mean youll be caught off guard. Sen just dont have hard counters set to whatever NRG have planned and for a midround heavy team like SEN it really doesnt seem like too big of a detriment.
The only reason i even think NRG will have a chance is because they have some heavy anti stratting advantages compared to sen. If they didnt have that I wouldnt even question it, id give 70/30 to SEN IF that were the case

Just to make this bait a little worse, zekken has the highest ACS in this kickoff going against the strongest teams in all of Americas even with him having played over 2.5x the rounds nrg have

1. as a sentinel victor is nothing special, he does ranked setups and isnt anything special
2. hes gone against FURIA AND FUCKING CRIPPLED 9 ofc his stats will be better

Demon1 duelist > Zekken duelist (i agree its not debatable but the gap aint huge)
Crashies initiator < Sacy initiator (youre fucking stupid if you think crashies is actually better than Sacy)
Victor sentinel < Johnqt sentinel (if you think vic on sentinel is better then youve never played sentinel in your life)
Marved controller = TenZ controller (this one is hard, id typically give it to tenz but theyre playstyles are so different you cant really compare, tho i will say tenz has provided more consistently high impact games while marved is meant to be a foundation for the team)
Ethan flex > Zellsis (i agree with this but zellsis is also a massive player who when he plays well we get stupid rounds like yesterday in the 3v1 clutch against G2)

Chet singh also clears does not clear Kaplan (chet lost against Bili Bili.... i dont think more needs to be said)

it really aint that far my guy zekken was rated as a top 3 flex player while playing on a CHEEKS team during 2022 x_x
John is way better than victor on sentinel and if you dont see that youve clearly never played the sentinel role in your life
the sacy one is true
ethan zellsis is for sure really close zellsis has had insane impact for his entire career and he was the best initiator during 2022 that didnt make a LAN
Tenz is also for sure WAAAY better than current marved man, the playstyles are completely different and Tenz provides more consistent impact at least rn
Chet lost against bili bili gaming... i dont think i need to say more

this guy is crazy if he thinks victors sentinel is better than johnqt x_x
i thought sen fans were delusional but NRG is proving a new high

dont worry well rub it in when sen wins

yea the dude seems to just be looking for any flaw whatsoever cause he even compares it to sen comms which id say are crazy hectic and yet is claiming that it isnt at all.

let me put back the acend roster so we can say theyre a super team since they all won a champions