If PRX take the game seriously theyll win regardless

Pancada was put onto a new role in a dysfunctional roster... I wonder why he wasnt comfortable, I couldnt possibly find an answer to that question

pancada: Reached Int. LAN GF twice, won 1 as the number 3 highest rated player in the entire event
Zellsis: Made the first ever LAN in the game, fumbled the bag in his last match

bro thats not even a sen hater take, i completely fucking agree, they never even let pancada prove himself as the best smokes and snaked his spot with the sub just cause he was sick

and sen have only lost 1 game with pancada on this roster whats your point? The We dont have nearly enough proof that this team is even that good in the first place and on top of that we have no proof that zellsis is the one that is responsible for this improvement.
They were literally so rough around the edge when zellsis joined in its just time and experience, theyd be just as good with pancada on the team and tenz wouldnt have to be throwing on omen all the time. Especially on sunset i feel like we definitely need pancada cause that map is absolutely critical for the smoker to not be the first death. Haven is another one where Tenzs omen is gonna be their downfall cause he just doesnt understand the nuances of a smokes agent, thats something pancada knows all too well, the mf was top 3 rating in champs only behind yay and king

but even if sen win its just an off season tourney, realistically if PRX take it seriously SEN are gonna get wiped

when the org themselves dont care about long term success how can we? This isnt a move for long term success this move was based off of 2 showmatch wins, we havent seen them lose yet and mark my words the moment sen lose 2 or 3 matches in a row theyre gonna start scrambling the roster again

Every fake SEN fan is supporting the snaking of pancada the goats main spot on the team

where is the proof that his comms are bad? yall get this out of nowhere to just cope with why they subbed in zellsis. Check the goddamn LCQ comms pancada was literally comming every round and even midrounding in some rounds

so youre claiming that pancada has bad comms bad mechanics bad util bad energy bad etc and somehow pancada is the one that had the third highest rating in champs and zellsis is the guy that hasnt achieved anything since V1.
It is true the guy chokes in big games its always happened since the V1 days, you just havent been watching him long enough. I love the guy but pancada is a fucking proven BEST SMOKES, hes literally a better marved

well tbf they were trolling in the Upper Finals, they were just giving com the dumbest and most free clutches because they just didnt stop to think and analyse the round they were playing. In the GF they all just played terribly tho there was no other way about it.
Also why tf are you bringing up champs i wasnt even talking about that why are you still butthurt over a win?

people always bring up communication errors but literally so many famous teams in so many games in EU have such broken english but yet they never make any problems out of it. On top of that look at LEV, 3 players including aspas can barely pronounce words right and yet they seem to be having a great time comming in english. SEA as well, we have some ridiculously heavy accents over here and many players esp indo players have terrible english yet forsaken has managed with his trash english from 2021 iceland and has improved it over time.
Knowing a language doesnt even make 10% of comms

Pancada has literally reached higher peaks than every player on the sen roster other than tenz

yea its just not gonna happen. Pancadas only chance at getting put back onto the main roster is if they shit the bed with the new roles or it seems like they were just honeymooning with zellsis. Other than that Pancada isnt touching the game with this team anymore and honestly its a shame that the best smokes player itw isnt gonna be playing anymore but what can we do abt it

This guy fr still believes that pancada isn't their plan b rn 🤣

Forgot to put it in my pickems but this was p expected.
They end up winning cause Prx is trolling comps and Sen actually have a pretty good map pool already

I can't believe I forgot the amount of copium y'all fools posses. So what do you think they're doing exactly with zellsis? They're just testing him out for the past 2 months? 0 practice with pancada for the past 2 months? Not subbing in pancada when zellsis has already stated he feels like absolute shit right now and has been puking profusely, what could they POSSIBLY be doing other than have subbed pancada out?

Who's top 1?

They're clearly still results based if this is what's happening

Idk man, they subbed in zellsis for pancada off a showmatch, to me it still seems they're making dumb decisions.
Also look at all these comps they're testing out instead of actually utilizing their smokes player who was number 1 in smokes a year ago

Because the org is doomed to make dumb decisions. They stitched in zellsis based off a few show matches, watch them lose a menial game and bring pancada back in once he's already felt 🐍'ed and doesn't feel the drive anymore

Dephh was actually a problem tho mf was the soul reason they didn't make it out of groups

I've been a Sen fan for almost as long as this team has been around, I wasn't super into the game back then but I remember I properly started playing and watching after first strike.
I've always had the copium that this team would comeback and be a top contender but for some reason now that they're coming back up in the rankings, I just don't feel so confident about them. It feels like they're gonna experience some impending doom and fall off again.
Also maybe my hype for the team is gone cause the players are also just so far gone and literally 0 of the OG players are still on this team and pancada (a huge part of my copium surge coming into franchising) has pretty much been sacked. On top of that it just feels like the org always mess around and step into the team affairs way too much

I mean pancada even clears zellsis but they won't sub him in so clearly something's happened with pancada or this is a part of their 2024 plan

Some of their episodes are pure comedy gold

For the past 2 years Sen have constantly just been shooting themselves in the foot with every change.
Now pancadas on the bench tenz is throwing with omen, pancada isn't even allowed to play anymore like it's just such a fucking mess and I'm so exhausted of watching Sen throw away all the potential every other team could ever hope to get.

This is exactly why Sen weren't in A tier on the plat chat too early rankings cause the mfs constantly wanna create false hope

Tenz < forsaken
Zekken > something
Pancada > mindfreak / zellsis > mindfreak
Sacy < Davai
Johnqt < monyet

Prx gonna throw
2 - 0 Sen

T1 above SEN gotta be the funniest thing ive seen all year

same ngl

i dont think its accepting but its just less hassle when you need to compete. Shed need to look after the hair for multiple hours a day and it would get in the way while playing in matches

Demon1 is good but not at the peaks of yay aspas (this one is arguable) or tenz
Hes great but he isnt an unstoppable force who near single handedly carried his team to a trophy unlike tenz and yay

are you intentionally trying to forget tenz or what? If were talking peaks then no one compares. The level he got to during the competition he was facing was by far the craziest gap weve ever seen in skill in this game and will probably stay that was since jett will never be that broken again

mf looked like he was playing in a bronze lobby in the grand finals of an international event, i genuinely wouldnt argue against ppl saying he was on smth

Angel has been one of the best IGLs many times (when he actually stops throwing) and hes fixed his biggest weakness which was his aim (its probably cause of snus ngl, old man needs the focus).
If anything Vanity and "close contention" is the biggest oxymoron of all time, that makes literally no sense, my guy aint even qualifying for a single event this year mark my words

he can warm the bench

I don't get what they're trying to do with their tier 2 subs. All the players on the main roster and light-years ahead of the 2 subs in terms of skill, why can't they just properly practice with their main team? They won't win anything or even place well next year if they play the whole off season with this ass team

They would drop him tho. His play in the main season last year was a pretty big part of their downfall and they were looking for replacements this year but couldn't find good deals
The way he's performing now tho I do agree that they most likely won't drop him anytime soon

Yea but that's the point tho, those other players didn't bring any value. At the end of the day orgs are trying to make money. If Sen didn't have tenz and they succeeded this year they wouldn't be able to make nearly as much money as they could with tenz. And right now it's seeming like they could very well be successful.
I get the hate when he was doing bad but right now he's doing far better than those players you mentioned and many others that are still on teams

You don't like players because of how they play, you like them for their personality. Why tf would you glaze someone cause they can do something well. Just look at footballers, they could be some of the best in the world but when they're known as dicks not many will follow them.
Stop trying to invalidate people's feelings cause you just can't understand them

Not really, I haven't seen delusional Sen fans since the main Americas group stage ended. They're hella rare nowadays and most of the time it's satire.
Tenz definitely has potential to be an above average tier 1 player but no one in the world will likely ever reach his peaks cause he was playing in an era of low protocol gameplay where the old op Jett would just naturally dominate.
That's partially why babybay as well now isn't as good and isn't as consistent

Afreeca?

Actually I thought ppls was gonna be braindead. Also it seemed like sacy was so much more comfortable and having more fun with pancada on the team. He was prolly stressed out pancada might actually be benched if zellsis played really well.
I think getting rid of sacy ruins pancada and vise versa. I'd be down if they could make a 6 man roster work with tenz and zellsis but if not honestly either player would be able to play at a really high level, esp once tenz has more experience on flex

Exactly, you play well you get hate you play bad you get hate, you get rid of ego you get hate. There's no winning for tenz dawg at this point he's not the most overrated player he's the most hated

Blud finally had a single speculative reason to potentially rag on tenz and capitalised on it.
It's alright lil bro, when they dominate VCT with tenz on the team I'll be thinkin about you malding and seething in front of your monitor

Because they won 1redbull tourney?

i mean just look at individual form. Other than bind johnqt didnt do much, Sacy was horrible the whole series, and pancada was pretty mid imo nothing special about him this game. Tenz was pretty good and so was zekken. At the end of the day it was a performance diff, sen werent feeling it clearly

bro is trying so hard to hate and has 0 points

"how could they possibly lose to a team thats had significantly more time to practice and has shown to be genuinely very talented individually"

the thing is sentinels have been on the fall for a while now and havent even gotten on their knee yet

and then proceeded to own FPX in the very next tourney