Why Indo teams are so shit at APAC

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ItsMeDio

honestly, just give 1 direct slot to thailand

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Th still so much better

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riftxd

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yeah, for their experience in the latest master. IMO, Indonesian team can fought well, but yeah they're lacks of discipline

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Basedobserver

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Because their fans use all their energy being toxic towards Sa teams they forget to practice

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SA TEAM <3 INDO TEAM

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Nah it's more like SA FANS 🤝 ID FANS

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KEKW

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riftxd

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remember SKRossi's viewer raiding Lmemore's stream for sussy aim?

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Basedobserver

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I don't watch Skeossi he's overrated

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riftxd

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yeah he is, greedy player

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Terrain

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based af

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puper

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SA <3 fl1pzjder

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Fyujin

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they are not shit, the opposition is just better.

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See here's the thing. You said what you want to say, but let's be truthful to the regional context here. Even at their worst, Indonesia is still the second or third best team in SEA, if not APAC. I do believe Thailand is just so well prepared, balanced, and talented that they're basically miles ahead of the other regions. You're just displaying a kneejerk reaction to a team that has international experience outclassing one of our best collection of players in a roster (with me displaying a bit of copium in that sentence).

We just can't make excuses; the teams can't make excuses. Superstars are one thing, but adaptability to competition is also as important.

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LOOK THEIR GAMEPLAY BRUH...cant win even 1vs1 with winning angle peek...always got timing which is where their should be aware..bad strat..and dont forget they are 1st seed indonesia...onic better so sad

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If ONIC is better than BOOM or PSJ, why did they underperform when it matters the most in Challengers ID even if they did well in APAC? BOOM is still an amazing team, but they're failing. They're underperforming.

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based on crws twitch. he did a vod review with surf and others. he mention in thai that Onic is toughest indonesian opponent, their playstyle different from psj or boom

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Pogtestic

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Well it's only the TH fans/neutrals hating on ID teams. Same with SA teams situation.

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yeah, I agreed, but Onic has a bit of bad luck facing another tough group after they fought in play-ins. And I agreed that Onic's game style is kinda different from other ID teams like BOOM and Persija Esport. Thanks for Severine as a IGL. But recent, Boom still dominating ID scene, following Alter Ego, Persija, and Onic

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TH >>>>>>>>>>>> ID i told you

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Stephane

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0/8 fake flagger , fake flair

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Femly

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are you dumb?

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Nahboo

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This guy hate SA,INDO AND MY

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This is probably a bait post but indonesia is the 2nd best region in apac behind thailand. Im not counting my/sg because having eu/indo imports doesn’t mean you have a stronger region it just means you have more money.

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I'd even say ph>my/sg region since the only team with 5 singaporeans lost to a vn team tbh

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delusional_paperrex_fan

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theres a reason they are unsigned + sgmy is miles ahead of id , literally only 2 - 3 orgs in mysg while id has like around 10

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fracra

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your hate boner for indonesia is hilarious. if you didn't know the team you're supporting, paper rex, is literally a half indo team, jinggg is half indonesian according to his mom.

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i dont hate indo teams , i hate their fans

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fracra

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yeah and continue to shit on the teams needlessly on forums even without any braindead/delusional indonesians. it's like you're trying to bring the worst of us to argue with you to prove your point that we are toxic, when these minority fans also exist in other countries.

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Here is a suggestion buddy how about you focus on your dead region, malaysia only got 2 valorant orgs and not even a famous one, and the views, why every malay teams play it never hit a 1k views marks the only time MY teams got views is when they face PRX even that the majority who watch is indo fans who want to watch forsaken, also why there is no MY broadcast links in vlr.gg because nobody in MY watch valorant, what happen if davai got replace the only MY player in vct apac, so instade of hating on indo how about you build your community from the ground up, look at the other sea region they all growing their valorant scene but where malaysia? Busy playing mlbb and pubgm

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delusional_paperrex_fan

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not reading that but gl weirdo

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Pane

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Sorry malaysia i tried gg

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delusional_paperrex_fan

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go on ur main lol , + indo fans are a million more times toxic than my fans

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Pogtestic

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Well no shit malay fans aren't toxic, since they dont even have a decent malay team.to support lmao

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delusional_paperrex_fan

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when kgm win a game you dont see them trash talk the opposing team

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Pogtestic

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This is a pretty weird take considering 2 indo teams got 4th and 5th. (Although it's obviously bait but yea)

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delusional_paperrex_fan

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ID teams never made it to a masters and champions, TH made 4 , SGMY made 2 , PH made 2 , while indonesia made 0
even in masters 1 they placed worse than a Taiwan team hahaha

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Pogtestic

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Dude timetravelling back to masters 1. But sure i appreciate ur opinion(?)

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delusional_paperrex_fan

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masters 1 was the last thing i mentioned since it was irrelevant, but still you cant face facts

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Well sure ig?

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0/8 indo still better than SA and HK/VN

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Don't mention SA, incoming downfrags fellow saint lucian.

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and PH

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chloeburbank

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nah PH was just unlucky

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cheaterr

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a litlle unlucky like ONIC, buts still worst than Indo

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Top 4 still better than India

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MasterYoda

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bad take, this is. finished 4th, they have. playing well, they had. enough performance shown, they had.

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INVICIUS

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Classical favourite toxic Indo player's word
Kontol

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riftxd

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additional :
ngentot, anjing

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Ploodle_Shankypoo

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I don't really think indo teans are that bad, i watched one of prx match against persija or something? And they took a map out of us. Was an awesome match.

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riftxd

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tbh, despite having 3 boomers, their gameplan was really good tho

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So many copes in this thread 🤣

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JustHunter

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Yall talkin like half of PRX isnt Indo, one of which is most definitely the best player currently in all of APAC and arguably Top 10 Global

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JustHunter

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Yall know we aint ever gonna beat any EMEA or NA teams if we keep fighting over the pettiest shit ever right? Cant we make this a competitive friendly rivalry rather than going barbaric over every single countries' reps that dont make it to International

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Well, we can but our fans definitely couldn't, same with football alot of toxicity around SEA region even though we couldnt even get to round 2 of the world cup other than the vietnam hahah

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luckypleb

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Who cars, best team in apac gonna get clapped by emea anyway

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IndiraGandhi

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Cos they repeat too much "bule, bule, bule"

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fatpoipoiiii

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Chill bro, maybe its not our time yet. I believe indonesian have the power to compete other region

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chunchun

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id = vt confirmed?

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mueeza

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xerxia and paper rex, they're just another level man

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rixy

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indos knows this isnt stuff that they shouldve mad about. first its kinda truth and secondly opinion doesnt matter cus its just hating, regular indo hater. indos are toxic but not delusional. if we shit then we shit. but top 4 apac, ya its more than enough lah.