honestly, just give 1 direct slot to thailand
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Why Indo teams are so shit at APAC
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Basedobserver [#3]Because their fans use all their energy being toxic towards Sa teams they forget to practice
SA TEAM <3 INDO TEAM
See here's the thing. You said what you want to say, but let's be truthful to the regional context here. Even at their worst, Indonesia is still the second or third best team in SEA, if not APAC. I do believe Thailand is just so well prepared, balanced, and talented that they're basically miles ahead of the other regions. You're just displaying a kneejerk reaction to a team that has international experience outclassing one of our best collection of players in a roster (with me displaying a bit of copium in that sentence).
We just can't make excuses; the teams can't make excuses. Superstars are one thing, but adaptability to competition is also as important.
Basedobserver [#3]Because their fans use all their energy being toxic towards Sa teams they forget to practice
KEKW
TMosura [#7]See here's the thing. You said what you want to say, but let's be truthful to the regional context here. Even at their worst, Indonesia is still the second or third best team in SEA, if not APAC. I do believe Thailand is just so well prepared, balanced, and talented that they're basically miles ahead of the other regions. You're just displaying a kneejerk reaction to a team that has international experience outclassing one of our best collection of players in a roster (with me displaying a bit of copium in that sentence).
We just can't make excuses; the teams can't make excuses. Superstars are one thing, but adaptability to competition is also as important.
LOOK THEIR GAMEPLAY BRUH...cant win even 1vs1 with winning angle peek...always got timing which is where their should be aware..bad strat..and dont forget they are 1st seed indonesia...onic better so sad
Skyss [#9]LOOK THEIR GAMEPLAY BRUH...cant win even 1vs1 with winning angle peek...always got timing which is where their should be aware..bad strat..and dont forget they are 1st seed indonesia...onic better so sad
If ONIC is better than BOOM or PSJ, why did they underperform when it matters the most in Challengers ID even if they did well in APAC? BOOM is still an amazing team, but they're failing. They're underperforming.
Victorie [#16]This is probably a bait post but indonesia is the 2nd best region in apac behind thailand. Im not counting my/sg because having eu/indo imports doesn’t mean you have a stronger region it just means you have more money.
I'd even say ph>my/sg region since the only team with 5 singaporeans lost to a vn team tbh
TMosura [#11]If ONIC is better than BOOM or PSJ, why did they underperform when it matters the most in Challengers ID even if they did well in APAC? BOOM is still an amazing team, but they're failing. They're underperforming.
based on crws twitch. he did a vod review with surf and others. he mention in thai that Onic is toughest indonesian opponent, their playstyle different from psj or boom
chloeburbank [#22]0/8 indo still better than SA and HK/VN
Don't mention SA, incoming downfrags fellow saint lucian.
levia09 [#26]based on crws twitch. he did a vod review with surf and others. he mention in thai that Onic is toughest indonesian opponent, their playstyle different from psj or boom
Well it's only the TH fans/neutrals hating on ID teams. Same with SA teams situation.
Pogtestic [#17]I'd even say ph>my/sg region since the only team with 5 singaporeans lost to a vn team tbh
theres a reason they are unsigned + sgmy is miles ahead of id , literally only 2 - 3 orgs in mysg while id has like around 10
levia09 [#26]based on crws twitch. he did a vod review with surf and others. he mention in thai that Onic is toughest indonesian opponent, their playstyle different from psj or boom
yeah, I agreed, but Onic has a bit of bad luck facing another tough group after they fought in play-ins. And I agreed that Onic's game style is kinda different from other ID teams like BOOM and Persija Esport. Thanks for Severine as a IGL. But recent, Boom still dominating ID scene, following Alter Ego, Persija, and Onic
moonstar [#2]Th still so much better
yeah, for their experience in the latest master. IMO, Indonesian team can fought well, but yeah they're lacks of discipline
Pogtestic [#19]This is a pretty weird take considering 2 indo teams got 4th and 5th. (Although it's obviously bait but yea)
ID teams never made it to a masters and champions, TH made 4 , SGMY made 2 , PH made 2 , while indonesia made 0
even in masters 1 they placed worse than a Taiwan team hahaha
delusional_paperrex_fan [#35]ID teams never made it to a masters and champions, TH made 4 , SGMY made 2 , PH made 2 , while indonesia made 0
even in masters 1 they placed worse than a Taiwan team hahaha
Dude timetravelling back to masters 1. But sure i appreciate ur opinion(?)
Basedobserver [#3]Because their fans use all their energy being toxic towards Sa teams they forget to practice
remember SKRossi's viewer raiding Lmemore's stream for sussy aim?
Pogtestic [#36]Dude timetravelling back to masters 1. But sure i appreciate ur opinion(?)
masters 1 was the last thing i mentioned since it was irrelevant, but still you cant face facts
delusional_paperrex_fan [#38]masters 1 was the last thing i mentioned since it was irrelevant, but still you cant face facts
Well sure ig?
Pogtestic [#41]No shit i am fucking idiot lmao, isn't it obvious??? It's like you delusional abou bleed we're all the same
"We're all the same" wdym same, my/sg already went to masters id havent lololol kkkkk
JustHunter [#64]Yall know we aint ever gonna beat any EMEA or NA teams if we keep fighting over the pettiest shit ever right? Cant we make this a competitive friendly rivalry rather than going barbaric over every single countries' reps that dont make it to International
Well, we can but our fans definitely couldn't, same with football alot of toxicity around SEA region even though we couldnt even get to round 2 of the world cup other than the vietnam hahah
delusional_paperrex_fan [#29]theres a reason they are unsigned + sgmy is miles ahead of id , literally only 2 - 3 orgs in mysg while id has like around 10
your hate boner for indonesia is hilarious. if you didn't know the team you're supporting, paper rex, is literally a half indo team, jinggg is half indonesian according to his mom.
fracra [#67]your hate boner for indonesia is hilarious. if you didn't know the team you're supporting, paper rex, is literally a half indo team, jinggg is half indonesian according to his mom.
i dont hate indo teams , i hate their fans
delusional_paperrex_fan [#68]i dont hate indo teams , i hate their fans
yeah and continue to shit on the teams needlessly on forums even without any braindead/delusional indonesians. it's like you're trying to bring the worst of us to argue with you to prove your point that we are toxic, when these minority fans also exist in other countries.
riftxd [#37]remember SKRossi's viewer raiding Lmemore's stream for sussy aim?
I don't watch Skeossi he's overrated
delusional_paperrex_fan [#29]theres a reason they are unsigned + sgmy is miles ahead of id , literally only 2 - 3 orgs in mysg while id has like around 10
Here is a suggestion buddy how about you focus on your dead region, malaysia only got 2 valorant orgs and not even a famous one, and the views, why every malay teams play it never hit a 1k views marks the only time MY teams got views is when they face PRX even that the majority who watch is indo fans who want to watch forsaken, also why there is no MY broadcast links in vlr.gg because nobody in MY watch valorant, what happen if davai got replace the only MY player in vct apac, so instade of hating on indo how about you build your community from the ground up, look at the other sea region they all growing their valorant scene but where malaysia? Busy playing mlbb and pubgm
Pane [#71]Here is a suggestion buddy how about you focus on your dead region, malaysia only got 2 valorant orgs and not even a famous one, and the views, why every malay teams play it never hit a 1k views marks the only time MY teams got views is when they face PRX even that the majority who watch is indo fans who want to watch forsaken, also why there is no MY broadcast links in vlr.gg because nobody in MY watch valorant, what happen if davai got replace the only MY player in vct apac, so instade of hating on indo how about you build your community from the ground up, look at the other sea region they all growing their valorant scene but where malaysia? Busy playing mlbb and pubgm
not reading that but gl weirdo
Pane [#77]Sorry malaysia i tried gg
go on ur main lol , + indo fans are a million more times toxic than my fans
delusional_paperrex_fan [#78]go on ur main lol , + indo fans are a million more times toxic than my fans
Well no shit malay fans aren't toxic, since they dont even have a decent malay team.to support lmao
Pogtestic [#79]Well no shit malay fans aren't toxic, since they dont even have a decent malay team.to support lmao
when kgm win a game you dont see them trash talk the opposing team
Ploodle_Shankypoo [#60]I don't really think indo teans are that bad, i watched one of prx match against persija or something? And they took a map out of us. Was an awesome match.
tbh, despite having 3 boomers, their gameplan was really good tho
Basedobserver [#3]Because their fans use all their energy being toxic towards Sa teams they forget to practice
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