Lockin 2 | VLR.gg

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Yuniee44

How are we feeling about having another lockin like tournament with every team attending? Feel like itd be so much more interesting seeing some of the mid teams of each region play each other

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yes we should have another one imo much more enjoyable than a 8 team masters

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Yuniee44

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yeah especially now i feel like most middle of the pack teams are fairly competitive, while lockin just had a few clear favourites and a bunch of bums.

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This also mean no kickoff :/

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setting up a 48 team tournament would be kinda hard. but I think it is manageable. 3 groups of 16, each group has 4 representatives of every region. swiss system, 8 in, 8 out. 24 teams after groups, 6 3-0 teams and 2 3-1 teams (based on game difficulty/region strength, so the regions get the priority of their best champs placement) get a bye, others fight in round 1. teams with a bye choose their opponent and you get a 16 team single-elim bracket

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cook

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I think Buchholz (a.k.a schedule strength coefficient) can either cook for the tournament or make it shit. buchholz basically assigns you a coefficient adding together the scores of your previous opponents. e.g. a 3-1 team who beat 0-3 1-3 and 2-3 and lost to a 3-0 team would get a worse coefficient than a team who lost to a 3-0 team and won the 2-3 team 3-2 team and 3-1 team

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buchholz for a lockin makes no sense wtf? how would seeds be determined if all the teams are new and havent played yet?

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Nef0r0

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If we were to do it this year: china>emea>amer>pacific
simply on champs performance

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LocoMonteiro

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what? the seeding is for each team.....not region

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Nef0r0

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buchholz is applied after the games are played, starting from round 3

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Riot isn't making it bro. Maybe they will the day this whole franchising thing falls off and they want to end it like they started it. But it's too expensive.

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Its too expensive, if we get it, it will be once this franchising cicle ends (early 27 if I'm not mistaken)

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whitebeans

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whatever year they stop adding teams(and start kicking the next) hopefully they will have the biggest tourney.

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Nef0r0

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they won't stop adding new teams cuz they aren't doing this anymore. Maximum capacity is 12 teams

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No because it will be mickey mouse.

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it will happen after 2027 ig
after re-evaluation of every teams
and 8 or 10 teams will continue with contract

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I was thinking they could just utilise the current 12 team kick//off format however have 3 teams from each region competing at each event.
So you would have 4 tournaments running, 1 in each regions homebase (Shanghai/Los Angeles/Berlin/Seoul).
Top 2 of each tournament qualifying to masters 1.

Or similarly have 6 "home based teams" and 2 teams from each other region.
Allowing riot to frame the event around "defending your regions pride"

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this would be so much fun but it would be so impossible to pull off