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ash_knuckles

how much backlog do I have to clear to read baby rudin?

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11

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Prancer
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11

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Hakujitsu
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Idk just clear it on time and we're good
11

#5
Yistyy
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I don't know what any of this means, but replies are saying 11.

So 11.

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Notbaka
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Start with Cummings analysis then progress towards Rubin or if u confident read the first chapter of Rubin directly and see how it goes

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ash_knuckles
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will 100% fly over my head lmao hell nah. Assume I have knowledge of elementary calc (up to like partial differentiation basically enough to pass comp sci calc requirements) and linear algebra. How do I get from that to rudin

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Strengthen ur linear algebra even more before starting Velleman or Richard hammack after this go with Kenneth Ross after this read the first chapter of Rubin set theory and topology and just HARD Work GL

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use spivak calculus. i think cummings is very basic and nice, but i haven't read it myself so i can't possibly recommend it. from what i've heard though, it's a very nice introduction at absurdly low price because jay cummings specifically wrote it to be accessible in both intellectual and economic ways.
in terms of spivak, what i will say is that it is a very rigorous and complete introduction to singlevariable analysis. it may honestly be that all you need is spivak. he writes very lyrically, as opposed to rudin's outrageously dry manner. it's almost like comparing a hearty stew to dryass fucking sandy chicken breast. the chicken breast is surely nutritional, but most of the time, you can't eat it without something else (read: a professor). basically, spivak is a really nice and smooth introduction to from calc bc to end of singlevariable analysis with lots of motivation, examples, diagrams, etc. everything you need to self-study. the exercises are also as hard as or harder than rudin's, so if you are the goat, you will be able to do 30% of them. unironically. it is rare that even a very talented student can do more than 50% of them with no experience and no help.

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yeah I heard abt spivak and his exercises and frankly they scare me tbh. It makes sense that it'd be better for self study tho.

what do you think of Silverman's modern calc and analytical geometry in relation to spivak? It's like a thousand pages, with pretty good exercises as well (a nice split btw regular numerical ones/proof based)

Frankly I haven't much use for analysis tho, I really just want to work through some books 4fun & to better understand that part of math, which is why I chose rudin arbitrarily.

EDIT: don't bother answering my question( I probably won't be here to read it, Ill just pick one and start solving, doesn't really matter in the end). I appreciate that you took the time out to answer a math question on a valorant forum tho. Many thanks.

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np bro idk about silverman modern calc ngl. never tried it or heard of it mb. have fun vro also i literally made an account to answer this LOL i got banned initially because i got flagged for making an account and instantly posting a longass message

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for linear algebra, the gold standard texts are hoffman-kunze and friedberg-insel-spence (xd insel). be wary of suggestions of sheldon axler's linear algebra done right. also the title is turbo ego which is a crazy red flag. it's basically only good if you are ready for some abstraction and already have semi-rigorous understanding of linear algebra, which is, frankly, a really weird place to be in educationally. if you can handle a lot of abstraction though, it's fine. you can follow this with steven roman's advanced linear algebra. i don't recommend it as a first course, though.
if you're a turbochad you can open with artin's algebra book because it has like two or three chapters on linear algebra, but that's probably not comprehensive and honestly kind of dicey. tl;dr go hoffman-kunze or friedberg-insel-spence and profit

as a follow-up, frankly, i don't recommend rudin altogether, unless you have someone to teach it to you. it's not even a matter of "oh you're not skilled enough xd" but rather "this book fucking sucks shit to read; even if you have a phd it's boring as fuck" because it's basically just a list of theorems and proofs with zero motivation, examples, pictures, etc. if you want further analysis reading, read pugh or zorich or something. just don't read rudin. you can take exercises from it tho fs.
further reading in algebra is usually dummit and foote abstract algebra. munkres for topology. ahlfors for complex analysis. enjoy.

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o7

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Notbaka
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IMO most important prerequisite for Rudin is understanding of logic and how to derive knowledge from the axiomatic method. You should know how to prove a disjunction, implication , conjunction and biconditional how to use contrapositives direct and indirect proofs and induction.

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Ill need a refresher cause I'm horrible at proofs kek vellerman it is then

#17
Notbaka
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lol it’s ok takes time focus , but anyway gl with velleman

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ash_knuckles
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I'm comp sci student so basically temu mathematician, if I get btfo'd by rudin I will cry and go back to web dev. Also I'll check out Cummings thx

#20
Notbaka
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Hahah lol it’s ok

#8
tungsten_cube_
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is baby rudin an actual math term wtflip

#9
Notbaka
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Yes lmao

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yukky
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11

#12
ash_knuckles
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I will touch u

#14
yukky
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ill take you up on that offer

#16
ash_knuckles
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c-can we......touch each other 😳😳👉👈

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Ory
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11

#21
elysxxm
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Big melons

#22
aburnie
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As a Chemical Engineering graduate, what the fuck is baby rudin?

#24
ash_knuckles
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analysis textbook known for being very terse

#23
Clucker
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Good luck

#29
rtg9000
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shouldve picked a real subject like gender studies vro...

#30
xineFso
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Math is also not real like we can just use the calculator vro 😭💔

#31
rtg9000
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we is NOT using this geometric algebra nonsense doing our groceries ts pmo

#33
destroylonely
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majoring in math good luck bro 💔💔💔

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