Rankers

This take might get hate and be perceived as braindead but it’s just an OPINION not a fact so please comment your opinion while being nice. I believe Rankers doing this well just shows just how bad valorant is as an Esport. In other esports there is a clear gap between pros and people who play the top level of ranked, where even though they may be mechanically gifted the strategy involved in the game will keep them from ascending. In Valorant it just seems like the gap between pros and ranked players isn’t that far off because mechanics outweigh everything in Val. It’s the same reason why we are seeing NRG struggle, although FNS’s strats are good he doesn’t have the firepower to compete, and it’s becoming more apparent the teams that succeed have an IGL who can frag. In a game like CS when you watch Faceit it’s easy to tell who is a pro and who isn’t, but when you watch 10 mans, or even high level ranked games in Valorant it would be virtually impossible to tell who the high level pros are unless you had like Aspas or Zekken whose mechanics are insane. I think Valorant will die as an esport because quite literally all that matters is having good mechanics and even mediocre strategy with top mechanics will always beat good strategy but not having all players skilled mechanically. Imo it’s the reason why all the games are coin flips nowadays and you can’t predict the winner accurately anymore. Sorry for the yap.

TLDR: Mechanics mean everything in Val, good strategy isn’t as important as having 5 mechanically gifted players. If you want to win as an org just invest in mechanics and kick out anyone who can’t keep up mechanically regardless of how tactical they may be.

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PRX never won a trophy but yeah i kinda agree wit u

your wrong though. rankers have p0ppin and inspire which are insanely smart and have relatively weaker mechanics. eggster also just does smart plays that are just impossible to counter. but yea val is a lot of rng bullshit, but thats how hero shooters are.

Its not like rankers are dumb its just they use unorthodox agents which is why everyone is suprised

not reading all that

Idk about ur point with it just being better mechanics. If you play the game 12 hours a day course ur gonna have good game sense. I think it highlights individual skill over team play, and also that ur point that TOP ranked (I mean like consistently top 10, not just peak #1 or consistent top 500) has pro play is a smaller gap then most realize.

clear gap between pros and people who play the top level of ranked

disagree comparing it to CS and saying this, because in CS you have these examples:
vitality when adding zywoo = immediately became world class team when they were mid before
spirit when adding donk = immediate trophies
g2 adding m0nesy = immediately a top team
eternal fire building around xantares = t1 immediately

These teams were not as good and their calling (in my opinion) as other teams such as na'vi and faze, but they just added an insane player and that player farmed. I think it's extremely disingenuous to say that rankers just had better mechanical players when I firsthand saw them have better utility and absolutely call insane flank timings on Cubert time and time again. On top of that, not to do a severe glazing infraction but nightz, ion and cane have been top1 destroying Radiant with insane stats similar to the players I mentioned before from CS. Because the game is so new and teams are still very nepo from previous esports titles + and you can't add young players like you can in CS (16+ for T1), this rankers team actually had all 3 of those players at once, so I really don't think it's surprising they're doing well.

This is the allure of Valorant. Being able to grind ranked and have that success translate to the pro level. That's why they made Premier. That's why they nerfed Jett, Chamber, and Raze, and added Clove who is a duelist.

This is exactly what Riot wants for the pro scene.

good teams either have insane carries/aim or good strats/teamwork. the best teams have both

Could be true. I see it as a positive, unique thing. While the majority of pros are still less successful ex-pros from other games, I like where talent finding is going with more and more top ranked players who actually play the game getting attention from teams. Though, most of them will have to wait a few years to be able to play. I like the idea of players whose first FPS is Val, rising to the top of ranked, possibly even the pro scene. Also rankers are too fun to watch

If mechanics was everything in valorant, Chinese teams would be masters and champs winners every year. You think Spirit is still successful without donk and shiro?

put Rankers in Americas Franchising and see how wrong you are.

bro what lmao i'd argue cs is more mechanic carry more than in valorant. xantares literally dropping almost 50 kills to save his team from getting demolished, donk , zywoo , u can carry with pure mechanics easier than in valorant.

Rankers being good isn't only reliant on them outaiming people. Also, an esport lacking tactical depth is fine. If Rocket League is able to survive despite its lack of depth and the little amount of effort and care Epic puts into its then Val is just fine.

Maybe Rankers is just a good team with potential, and every player sits on an agent they have 1000s of hours on. I agree that their mechs are whats winning them games, but I think a team without a good strategy would go nowhere and you have to give them thier due.

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tbh, you are right that just having mechanically cracked players can make you a top team, you still need good strats and team coordination to be number 1. a team with the top 5 aimers in the world wouldnt stand much of a chance against the 100th best aimers with really good strats

A major difference between high-level ranked in Val vs CS is that Val has almost no cheaters. There's no separate FACEIT, you just queue ranked, and that's it. There's at least one pro (tier 1 or 2) in almost every ranked game Eggsterr plays.

There's also still an enormous lack of good training/practice for pretty much all esports, and playing thousands of hours of ranked against legitimately good players helps a ton with that.

That said, the top tier 1 teams know how to play against the aggressive style, which is to match the aggression. They'll go fast, then back to slow, and Rankers will have to start guessing and not have the util to keep up with the slower rounds.

its true but they arent even that good mechanically look at ion2x bro cant aim for shit