Best duelist of all time

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sm0ke3

Has to be Aspas.
He has been been better than derke every single year since his tier 1 debut.
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aspas brazilian god

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"He has been been better than derke every single year since his tier 1 debut." thats just not true

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That is true. Derke in 2023 was the 3rd best player of his team, while Aspas was the best player in LOUD.

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4th. Alfajer, leo and chronicle were all better than him that year.

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DERKE was better than Aspas in 2022. IDC if u just look at LOUD's vs FNC's placements in 2022. Derke was VERY good in 2022 (easily his best year)

DERKE was also betterr than Aspas in 2023.

2024, Aspas > derke

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derke was better in 2024 than aspas, but not in 2023. This is how its always been internationally:
Derke in 2024 > aspas 2024
Derke in 2023 < aspas 2023
Derke in 2022 >>> aspas 2022
Derke in 2021 >>> aspas 2021

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aspas wasnt the best player on his team either whats ur argument here

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He was the best player on LOUD. Trust me, I watched all of LOUD's games that year.

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LMAOOOO. Have you seen prime Less. Your just baiting at this point

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One baiter calling others baiter. How far has vlr come...

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7/10 ragebait

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Less and pancada won Brazils only trophy. dont fucking forget. Aspas went negative that entire tournament.

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pancada > aspas > less in champions 2022

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scroll and tell me when you find aspas.
https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1015/valorant-champions-2022

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Did you watch Champions 2022? You're delusional

continue thread →

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Yeah because Fnatic was better than LOUD most of the year and has better roster

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which year has derke been better? Cuz its not 2023, that team was insane that year because of Leo, alfajer and chronicle. As for 22 and 24, its not debatable.

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Derke in 2024 > aspas 2024
Derke in 2023 < aspas 2023
Derke in 2022 >>> aspas 2022
Derke in 2021 >>> aspas 2021 (Obviously but still counts, shows derkes consistency)
INTERNATIONALLY. We all know aspas is the goat regionally because thats where he farms. Derke is the INTERIONAL GOAT. NO DEBATE.

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baseddd

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we play the same game? wtfk

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blatantly wrong.
Derke was bad early 2024. Aspas had an insane form throughout the year, is the reason for LEVs success, and LEV placed 3rd in champs
2023 is debatable, but i have aspas over derke as derke had prime chronicle, alfajer and leo as his teammates
2022 is undoubtedly aspas. Aspas placed 2nd in a master and won champs. He was the 2nd best player that year as well.

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Your confusing team achievement with individual prowness. 2023 was Fnatic year, HOWEVER, aspas played better. Same with Loud 2022, they were better, HOWEVER, derke played better. Derke being BAD in regionals and aspas good in regionals is not related AT ALL. IM comparing INTERNATIONALLY. I am correct. THIS IS A FACT (NO BIAS):
Derke in 2024 > aspas 2024
Derke in 2023 < aspas 2023
Derke in 2022 > aspas 2022
Derke in 2021 > aspas 2021

STOP HOLDING ON REGIONAL SUCCESS WHEN VALORANT IS AN INTERNATIONAL GAME. IS KANG KANG THE GOAT FOR FARMING CHINA?? BE SMART

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sm0ke3

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I can't agree with derke being better in 22 but I can understand your reasonings for the rest of the years

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Regional success? Two VCT Americas titles, one Champions title—absolute MVP in every single tournament win and runner-up in his first Masters, delivering miraculous plays and phenomenal stats in every game

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When the fuck will you stop using team achievements to compare individual players. If you want to compare team game. Derke has 2 intertional trophies. Please stop spouting bull shit and read what i said.

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He was carrying the team, and stat by stat, Derke stood no chance.

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https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1015/valorant-champions-2022

Did he carry in his ONLY trophy win? Let me know, im invested. Ill be waiting tell me where he is at

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lol you must not have watched 2022 at all to think aspas was the 2nd best player that year, completely delusional

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lightZZZZ

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Aspas is breaking his own kill records, playing 8 rounds fewer than the previous record

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Amazing, i hope he does that in internationals!!

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three years in a row on the Champins podium

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itsFake

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aspas carried leviathan in 2024 to third place in the champions, while derke, having chronicle and alfajer on his team, didn't get anywhere, just won the emea

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do you think chronicle and alfajer just magically kill everyone on the enemy team. Legit what the fuck are you saying

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itsFake

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obviously not, but compare chronicle with C0M for example, alafajer with tex, c0m and tex are not low level players, they are extremely bad compared to chronicle and alfajer

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washedradiant

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COmpare them to boaster and hiro, instead. your logic is dumb. Kingg and mazino did great lengths for lev to qualify along aspas greatness.

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itsFake

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the only ones who saved that lev, king and aspas, mazino wasn't as good as you're saying. the fact is that the team around derke was better than aspas

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washedradiant

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https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/2095/champions-tour-2024-americas-stage-2

is the bad teammates in question? if it werent for all 3 of them, they wouldnt have made champs

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Aspas is the goat of SA

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aspas has never been better than Derke in internationals. this is just a fact. both still goat

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sm0ke3

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Champions 2022, Champions 2023, champions 2024, masters reykjavik 22, Masters Shanghai. Thats 5/8 events they have both attended since 2022

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capp i dont even need to check because i already know in champ 24 Derke was top 2 player with trexx

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sm0ke3

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Fnatic placed 7th-8th in champs 24. Aspas had better stats in masters tokyo but I didnt use that since Loud placed 7th-8th

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washedradiant

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The only year Aspas was better than derke was 2023. ONLY. Derke clears every other year. Get that right...

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washedradiant

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THIS IS SO WRONG LMAOOOOOOOO.

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alienista1

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How can you lie so blatantly?

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laeDLaer

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Free Speech. VLR is american website so USA laws apply

President Trump truly an inspirational man!

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Prasinos

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Pls Donald Trump, save this man from his copium.

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laeDLaer

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President Trump give me green card. i will be big contribution to USA 🙏

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yes it is asspiss hands down. we have never seen single man carry a team all the way to a masters. this like some 2018 lebron shit

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Derke

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just look at what happened last time they played against eachother in grandfinals lil bro, Less was talking to Derke in DMs about playing together last year even Aspas friends know who the goat is

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Derke solos

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KK clears

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It's Aspas he has numbers , trophies, consistency nd he has also defined the perfect Jett in Valorant Competitive. Him playing for Mibr has brought them up on viewership chart nd you know he is him when even half of pros all around the world including in India glaze him nd roamed with Leviatan bundle to pay their respect to him.(It also helps classic was good)

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florescent

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Derke common now ,
In 2021 Derke > Aspas
In 2022 Derke < Aspas
In 2023 Derke > Aspas
In 2024 Derke < Aspas
In 2025 Derke = Aspas , best player in both of their region
honorable mentions zekken , kangkang

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prime leaf >

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Its derke; not even that close, better in 2021, better in 2022, probably aspas better in 2023, but derke’s team was so good we didnt get to see him pop off as much, and 2024 derke has a better team and has been flawless so far, Even tho its too early to say