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Is there a legit superteam in 2025?

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#1
4ch1p4p4

2022 we had LOUD & OPTIC
2023 we had FNC (and EG at the end of the season)
2024 GENG

Do you think there is a chance we see a single team dominate 2025? Or have all the regions become so competitive that there are no clear favorites anymore?

EDIT: Guess I worded it wrong, by "superteam" I mean a super dominant team that is favorite to win at least one major tournament

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2024 gen.g was a superteam?

#9
TheZestiestRusski
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I guess we are just calling every best team a superteam

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Anzaldinho
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i don't really think 2024 had a superteam per se
edg was ass the entire year and won champions
gen.g got grouped in champions
sen didn't even qualify to masters shanghai
heretics were the "consistent" team but they were consistently choking on grand finals , thus won nothing

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PrincePuma01
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This. I wouldn't call any team a superteam unless they consistently dominate for a substantial amount of time

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Hidero_
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the only team i would call a "superteam" or at least the closest thing we have is 2023 Fnatic.

  • 1st Lock//In
  • 2nd EMEA 2023 (we all agree Liquid winning was a fluke of the century)
  • 1st in Masters Tokyo
  • 4th in Champs LA
  • Lost 3 series' the entire year (once to liquid, twice to loud)
  • Still the only team to ever win back to back international
    the only thing REALLY holding them back from being an undoubted superteam was their slightly lackluster champs run but 4th is still pretty respectable in that regard
#40
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A team does not "become" a superteam, a superteam is "formed" so geng couldve won everything last year and they still wouldnt classify as a superteam. Insane team results ≠ superteam. For a team to classify as a superteam its really simple the team just need to be consisted of players with high name value regardless of form or future results. Nrg was a superteam, so was Leviathan and that fact does not change because they did not came close to meeting expectations

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z12
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vit

#4
ZeroTheEclipse
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EDG, T1, Vitality, and G2

#5
indomie
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PRX

#6
Froggy0_0
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nah we dont
its super unpredictable this season

#24
4ch1p4p4
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That's exactly what I feel like

#7
iplayval
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EDG, TL, or C9 based on pure bias

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zhongZHI
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2024 wasnt dominated by anyone. the biggest tournament was won by EDG. GENG and TH were in two finals but on finals had double the teams of the other and SEN did something

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MrBlooBloom
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2024 Sen was arguably a superteam

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Anzaldinho
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what the fuck?

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Toph_
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Not arguably, they were. Just turned off all cognitive functions in the middle of the year for some reason.

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Slafuss
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they were not. A superteam is a roster consisting of big players who already shone before, and i'm sorry but Tenz and Sacy were the only ones that check this condition. Johnqt was a rookie and Zekken and Zellsis were doing great on xset and c9. For me in 2024 we had like 2 superteams fnatic because it was the same roster from 2023 and nrg who got optic core + Ethan and Demon1 just coming off of Champs win. Unfortunately results didn't follow up for those teams but they were superteams

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Toph_
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Simply disagree a super team doesn’t need to be proven. Oxy + Verno + Cryo + Valyn + Narrate. None of these players are “proven” to the level of Fnatic. Yet to me if this were a team this would undoubtably be a super team don’t think they need to be proven. I think that the idea of even being “proven” is just an excuse to be willfully ignorant about incredible players.

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MrBlooBloom
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I do consider a super team to be a team composed of 3+ proven players, it's just that I consider that zekken was already a proven player since the Xset days

#23
zhongZHI
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EDG is more a super team than sen. and tell me how tf are they more super than GENG TH AND EDG. GENG won a bigger tournament and came second, TH came second at the 2 bigger tournaments and were good at madrid. EDG won bloody champs. how tf is SEN more super than them results wise when they only appeared for kick off and madrid. jerked off before shanghai. jerked off before champs and locked a bit in champs just to get run over by red hot edg and th

#37
MrBlooBloom
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I don't think you understand what a super team is

#42
ZekaTheGoat
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That seems to be the case for most here. No one in the Val community seems to understand what a superteam is when its such a simple simple idea. High value name players come together = Superteam, people just complicate for no reason.

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koromast
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idk if people understands what superteam is but how was gen.g a superteam if karon was literally a ranked rookie and they also had a recently injured lakia which were players that no one believed in, also t3xture came from global esports and wasnt a duelist in that team, meteor wasnt a sentinel either

#28
4ch1p4p4
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Yeah, I worded it wrong...
Just edited my initial comment

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Toph_
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vit edg heretics maybe sen.

#16
sentinelmain377
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Vitality T1 and Sen ig

#17
DecimateYKTV
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2024 was nrg
this year its vitality, t1, and maybe G2/SEN

#18
merciless-pity8989-89
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you don’t know what a super team is

its a team that gets formed out of already known and established talents that made a name for themselves.

A team like TH could go undefeated and win every event and still won’t be a superteam

#19
Warlordwibz
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No, but there's 2 potential team. PRX (cause current map pool is perfect) and EDG (will dominate regionally)

#25
Prancer
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neither of those are super teams

#26
Warlordwibz
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EDG not chinese superteam?????
PRX is a superteam on current map pool. No recon initiator map of icebox/breeze/ascent. Split and Fracture (flash initiator map)

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Prancer
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you do not know what a super team means. super team means each player was chosen because they are star players and are best of the best. A star team for example would be Kangkang Benjyfishy Derke Less Demon1. simon was not a starplayer before playing for edg. None of the prx players were star players before prx, and tbh i wouldn't consider all of them star players

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Warlordwibz
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A star team for example would be Kangkang Benjyfishy Derke Less Demon1

With your technicalities, then dont bother with superteam talk then. Import rules makes it impossible.
What possible is region/nationality superteam. EDG is Chinese superteam regardless of ur specific technicality what if situational conditional asterisk etc.

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Prancer
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by your definition was last years geng a superteam?

#20
Taruuu1
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superteam has to be a team FORMED to be a super team

not a team that just became good

EG was not a super team, and Gen.G was not a super team

#22
cyk
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We dont count Loud 2022 as super team ok?
Sacy and Saadhak- Champion top 16 loser
The rest are rookies and no namer
They found success later doesnt mean they were superteam

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glittering_yard
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In Brazil everyone considered them to be a superteam because they were the absolute best 5 players in the region. Saadhak and Sacy created that project to WIN the Champions

#30
BoF7ooM
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Yup, I remember the hype around Pancada e amigos. LOUD was 100% a superteam.

#32
cyk
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b4 2022 it is absolutely Br0zil, 3 Brazil teams sent to Champion, none of them making out of the group stage

#33
glittering_yard
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In Champions 2021 Sacy was the #2 highest rated player, and Saadhak was the #2 highest rated IGL. Both never lost in their region and did very well individually internationally. They picked up the best support player in South America, pANcada, and the 2 most talented ranked demons of South America. Less got rank 1 radiant playing with a 60hz monitor at only 15 year old, Aspas was the absolute ranked demon accused of cheating by all VCT pros of the region and the community at only 17 years old.

The hype around this squad (Aspas - Less - Saadhak - Sacy - Pancada) being put together was the hype of a superteam being created

#39
cyk
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Bro u don't learn statistic isn't it, we dont make conclusion when the sample size has only 2 match, and its only group stage

#46
glittering_yard
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??? but the point still stands, we're talking about the 5 LOUD players individually at that time, not the brazilian teams performance. Sacy and Saadhak played really well in those 3 matches, in fact they were up 12-5 against Gambit in the third map to qualify for playoffs, they were good, the rest of the team were not.

And these stats are still valuable, 145 rounds is a decent amount of rounds. For example, Team Liquid were semi-finalists in that tournament and they played 187 rounds, so i think the sample size is good enough to get a decent view of the players performances.

#31
BoF7ooM
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Best superteam of all time 2024 NRG

#35
islaaa
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NRG, VIT, T1 are crumbling rn

#38
Wall_Bug
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2024 - TH and GenG

#43
Prancer
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none of you know ball, you can't call a team that performed in hindsight a super team.

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NioMS
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Probably Heretics if they keep up the same form and everyone keeps searching for theirs along the year or maybe EDG is fully unleashed now

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