Liquid will either bomb out 0-2 or win the entire thing. This is their test

Wow its cold shouldve worn my DIOR DIOR jacket

It was also not the corner plant and maybe he was getting potentially pushed by kk so it's easy to mess up. He bounced back next round so its all good

There's been like 8 insane shots already but that was by far the craziest

I agree I also never realized how important Pati was to the team. I knew he was vocal in terms of hyping up the team, but hearing it from his teammates is really cool. I was also surprised that nats is really a full IGL. For some reason I assumed another player was helping him call, but it seems he's the captain

That new video is incredible everyone should watch it before the match versus EDG today. The ending with nats is amazing and it gives insight into just how good the coaching/igling is on this team

Id say qpert is needed now more than ever. They’ve made it to whatever grandfinals they’re in because of his experience because the rest of the roster is brand new talent. Its also perfect right now since they only scrim against the main TL roster so i think it’s better to have an experienced igl over a fragging igl to deepen strategies

Not having 100% faith in your duelist can’t be a good sign. I hope they’re able to mesh again. Something definitely wasn’t playing his best, but that seemed very rare to see

The coaches did a lot of studying against FUT and BBL. TH might be even easier to study for since they have so many matches. Also it helps that Keiko is playing incredibly and when Kamo plays well, they seem to win anything. I think theres a good chance they get a close game with TH, but beating Vit will be impossible.

I think he wasn’t standing out at first maybe due to nerves, but hes very reliable now and I can see him getting way better

This doesnt make any sense because for the first time in a while he doesn’t even look like the best player on the team

I don’t know if they’ll be able to win anything without a proper igl. I like the nats calling it is always very creative and you can tell he understands the game to a high level, but imo he’s also a big part of the general firepower on TL. In the recent games it seems like all 5 players are fired up and are likely playing at their peak but still only barely managing to win. I think if they get a proper experienced igl everyone would feel more comfortable. So until they get a Boaster or FNS I think their peak will only be top 5. This is just my opinion though I still think they can make an international with their current roster.

Socialble or kaajak

I think all NA teams except for G2 would get humbled in an international match and I’d say G2 look the best out of any region. Sen look like the second best in NA and I can see them being beat by almost all other regions except maybe pacific

I think pacific has the least range because imo the pacific teams you listed had to fight to get spots where as G2, TE, EDG,TH, VIT kinda breezed through the other teams

I think jamppi makes a better igl than nats but I’m hopeful liquid will win just because all players on tl have been shooting in the last 2 matches

I think the game used to be more stable and teams were together for more games than they are now, leading to fans having more connection to the teams. Now teams play like 10 matches the whole year and the talent is so spread that they are incentivized to make changes.

Many will disagree with this but miniboo on heretics and i know he’s good but they could be #1 if they just …

Its must be so demoralizing to play when the majority of your team is useless

2 or 3 of their players are awful

Laz or mixwell just because they bring a lot of fans

I agree the quality of the games seemed so low at least compared to some other regions

They are sen/100t fans, they do not watch any other matches

EDG, TL, or C9 based on pure bias

Picture looks like a pantene commercial, jamppi the goat

They are great

No imo the C9 jersey is not great this year. I liked last years version

This is one of the first times I can think of where he is underperforming compared to his team. But he is also starting the year off as a proper IGL so his performance is expected to be lower

Might be the craziest offseason-ish move in any tier

I wish they had signed someone like sayonara but i suppose he should keep grinding t2 even if his time with fnc wasnt that great

Even when their teams look mediocre (just from inexperienced players) they somehow manage to beat top level teams but this year I feel like they will have 5 players that have all played at the top level so I feel good about the team. I don’t know how much of an upgrade going from Moose to net is but I do trust mitch to lead. I think oxy is something special and I think this could be their best shot for a win

You think his takes are agreeable??? You won’t see anything wrong with him because you are out of touch with sentiment and compassion. Westjett is a bigot and likes to spew hatred towards others because he lives in a bubble where people encourage his actions. Please make more friends

His reasoning was about how ridiculous it was to drop derke and then leo right? It seems more and more like leo won’t even be in the picture this season so it does seem like he was denying for a different reason. Leo + nats + chron wouldve been insane. Kristal was also in talks to be igl if i remember correctly. Oh what couldve been ..

Westjett? Deserved. If its someone else idk enough about it

He has to be cheating holy fuck hes insane

This 5th will put us either at first or last in Americas. No in between

Nobody but pros know anything about the internals of orgs so what is the point of this question? I trust what former players say about the org and they all say c9 is competent

I think theyll be even better with Mitch. There’s nothing wrong with changing players if the vibes are bad. There’s no way the team would win anything if they weren’t all comfortable. Eggs in a basket and whatnot
I do feel for rossy having been kicked this far into the offseason but his interview suggests he knew his position wasn’t guaranteed. I think everyone overreacted initially when the news came out and we should trust the players (former and current) that say c9 is a good org. I don’t think they deserve the hate they get

Very much a joke. They all take jabs at each other on twitter

Oh what a bunch of stupid fucks

I always see him and moose at the bottom but moose does his job well. Xeppaa has good util usage but even so i never see him setup oxy to win fights. Oxy and rossy just win their duels without flashes. At this point I’m not sure what he brings to the team

What is the point of comm listen ins if theyre going to talk through the whole thing SHUT UPPP

Even if it was by accident its pretty irresponsible to do after a coach was penalized for that. Very weird situation

This is real?? That’s insane wow. Riot won’t punish a player imo and sen is too big their fanbase would attack them for months

Are they the first to make it to VCT from game changers? I am very unfamiliar gc

Liquid fans are the realest out there. No delusions. Never surprised. Never disappointed just pure hope that the team does something good

Good. Midterms are done for me so i can relax a bit wbu

Im ready for disappointment to be honest. I really wish the best for the team though. They have such a solid foundation as an org but they seem to be stuck with the same “minimal spending” mentality as cloud9. I’m glad they kept nats and keiko as they seemed the most eager to win from the previous roster.

I feel bad that m80 invested so much into their val team just to get run down like this. They needed to win last year. Happy to see a latam vs brazil grand final though

Neon is so strong they need 3 sentinels to stop her