#1 Gen.G
#2 EDG
#3 Sentinels
#4 TH
#5 LEV
America gave edg and geng upper finals on even matchup . Seems like they’re the bigger frauds 🦶🦶🦶🦶🦶
America’s will be 3-4 as always. Sen won a Mickey Mouse tournament last year
Fraudmea 0 titles 😹😹😹😹
Donating titles to apac and china.
Sen beat GenG when it mattered.
Trash Heretics -> free title to GenG
you guys are both morons. Americas have won at least one event every single year. Arguing that Americas are not Top 2 regions OAT is a joke. Also, Heretics are obviously in the top 4 teams of last year, braindead to argue otherwise. two grand finals appearances at internationals. Maybe you should both log off👍
1# Gen.G
2# TH
3# Sen
4# EDG
5# G2/LEV (saying this because G2 were great at masters, meh at champs, while it was the opposite for LEV)
Thoughts?
ive been a TH fan since Benjy joined and I don't think they are above EDG or SEN when EDG won champs and Sen won Madrid and got top 4 at Champs
unless you rate consistency i would put th lower and switch sen and edg. i would put lev over g2 despite their disappointment in shanghai because they recovered and made third in champs whereas g2 fell short
if we're talking purely in terms of competitive achievements heretics was the best simply by average placement
heretics was handing out trophies while bottom1 was dragging his team into 9th place regionally
why is geng first? i mean they literally lost their best player meteor(for those who say its texture you are dumb, i remember the match from fpx vs geng at shanghai on ascent where meteor quite literally single handedly saved geng that match during an eco round where he has a sheriff and was one tapping like crazy). Nrg also beat them in SOOP, you might argue its only off season but that its what everyone said about sentinels last year during the exact same tournament and we all how that turned out. Also, im a sen fan but there is no way sen is 3rd on this list 4th or 5th is a maybe. and whats up with lev? they definitely do not look good and have tons of issues. one of the main problems is how itopata put d1 on raze when d1 clearly showed that he cant play raze last year on nrg.
nrg shud be on top 3 minimum and t1 shud be top 5
mate literally gets a hate boner when heretics is mentioned in a Top list .
since when lmao i have never seen a delusional heretics fan make a post on vlr about heretics
mate literally gets a hate boner when heretics is mentioned in a Top list .
they’ve made 5 finals in the year including two internationals and won three of them including shanghai
I am guessing as I have read many ppls saying how geng is still at #1
I just wanna say Fucker open eyes and see " top team of 2024 " that doesn't mean we have to see current gen g, we have too see the geng team from kickoff 2024 till champion
Hot Take:
FPX deserves to be in this conversation:
Only lost to EDG in Bo5's domestically (and only lost other games after they were guaranteed to Champs)
At Madrid lost to 2 of the top 4 teams from Kickoffs in close games after a terrible travel experience.
Only lost to the 2 finalists at Shanghai
Lost to 2 of the top 4 teams at Champs in the Group of Death
Pacific is going to be crazy strong this year, some EMEA teams and from NA i lowkey only believe in NRG and SEN, from Brazil its going to be MIBR and Furia up there
we're talking about 2024 here dawg
but for 2025 yeah i agree
#BRINGTHENRG #FNCWIN #LIVEEVIL
honestly, id say:
1) Gen G - won kickoff, 2nd place madrid, 2nd place stage 1, won shanghai, won stage 2, grouped at champs. in total 1 bad overall event
2) TH - 2nd place kickoff, grouped madrid, 2nd place stage 1, 2nd place shanghai, 3rd place stage 2, 2nd place champs. in total didnt win anything bbut considering they had 3 rosters they had a consistently very good year all things considered
3) EDG - won kickoff, grouped madrid, won stage 1, insta elimmed shanghai, won stage 2, won champs. in total very dominant regional presence (although it was in china) and 1 good international
4) Sen - won kickoff, won madrid, bombed out stage 1, struggled stage 2, 4th place champs. started the year on fire, middle of the year kicked them hard in the ass, recovered at the end.
5) either G2, Lev, or FNC. G2 started bad, but since getting icy they only got better and better until champs where they barely escaped groups. Lev were pretty good year round, but really showed up at the end of the year during stage 2 and champs, but were never super amazing. FNC were regionally dominant throughout the year, although not to the level of edg at any time, but they bombed out shanghai, and considering the leo situation they bounced back pretty well for the rest of the year, especially stage 2
as a fnatic glazer idk if we deserve top 5 over the whole year
Leo was sick for kickoff and shanghai but our performance was ehh even after considering that
Making 5-6th at Champs with a sub was very cool but idk if it makes up for the rest of the year
i mean for a team like fnatic with that core, you can say they didn’t live up to their expectations
oh wait I thought your post was asking about fnatic not being on the list in general, I only just saw that you were replying to someone (my bad lol), yeah I agree with you they're not top 5, I misunderstood your comment
I agree with the teams but not the rankings, maybe I'd think about someone else for LEV but I'm really willing to die on that hill